UK Policeman Suspended After Kneeling on Kneck of Black Man

I don't agree with you. I have written that police officers should learn how to disarm an individual or de-escalate the situation.

Yes, routine killing has not been part of British policing culture because we have been fortunate to not have armed police officers and have community policing in some areas. I disagree that officers should be allowed to use violence to resolve a situation.

I would be amused to see how you deal with these situations in real life. I can assure you'd be on your toes running off as opposed to 'talking with' a knife-wielding maniac. There's a stark difference between 'force' and 'violence'. Officers do no exhibit violence, at least not without obvious misconduct. They do however use force to prevent that individual posing a risk to other members of the public.

You state officers should "learn how to disarm an individual" - presumably disarm them with words?!? Politely engaging in conversation has no place when dealing with a violent individual. The figures speak for themselves. Killings by police are remarkably low and are largely concentrated amongst terrorists! You rather swiftly by-passed my question regarding that.

You evidently live in a fantasy world where violent criminals are downplayed as alleged victims. I would argue these individuals (who plague our country with violence and brutal murders) deserve the full force of the law if they are bringing weapons onto our streets. I would rather force be used by officers as opposed to officers being injured. Think about it from the police's viewpoint and maybe you will have more understanding.

I am not trained to be in such situations. If an individual uses the same tactics that an officer uses and it is called violence then it is violence.

I would imagine, that is you are not trained to be in such situations, you also haven’t been in those situations, therefore your airy fairy opinion of how crime actually is, is complete ********.

Seeing as you're conflating this with racism, might one ask you show me where restraining a criminal (in an admittedly dubious manner) has anything to do with it?



They may well do but from this article they dont seem to have done anything overly bad, bar having the situational awareness of roadkill.

There is not one person in the country who could disarm a man with a knife and not be a serious risk of being stabbed himself, police should do a lot more training in restraints and martial arts but it only goes so far.

If they are suspected of having a weapon, being restrained fast should be the first thing that should happen before they get a chance to use it or run and use on the public. I've tried de-escalating situations who people very drunk and coked up, their mothers wouldn't be able to calm them down never mind a stranger.

Imagine if the guy died though! There would be protests for weeks!

There is not a single mention of racism here except in your own posts sir

This was clearly not a good idea given recent events but to compare this to what happened to George Floyd is embarrassing and shows an obvious a ‘anti-police’ agenda.

This man was in possession of a deadly weapon, George Floyd wasn’t. This man appeared to be resisting arrest, George Floyd wasn’t. Derek Chauvin was pinning all of his wait, through his knee, on to George Floyd’s neck, this police officer wasn’t. I could go on listing differences but I’m sure any objective person can already understand.

Male extremely violent (as above)

Male was wanted on a recall to prison (aka being sent back to prison as he had breached his conditions of release)

Male had a knife

Male violently resisted officers

Love all the armchair policemen in this thread who have absolutely no clue what kind of scumbags the police deal with on a regular basis. What’s happened here is wrong, but that doesn’t mean that the police should suddenly take a hands off approach. You have absolutely no idea who they deal with.

Oh ****... he had a deadly weapon? /s

Yeah, you simply can't compare this event with what happened to George Floyd.

I understand that a police officer kneeling on a suspect's neck in today's climate and in general isn't great, but context mattered with George Floyd and context matters in this situation.

I mean “the UK is innocent though” 🤨 “Could never happen here”.


https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/uk-policeman-suspended-for-kneeling-on-black-mans-neck/1914301

The spoiler contains an image of the incident

So you skipped the part where I said this wasn’t a good idea? I didn’t say what they did was right, I said it’s not even in the same universe as what happened to George Floyd, this was far more defendable

I would be more interested to know what happened BEFORE the officer used such a tactic. Otherwise I will assume the police are in the right

I didnt say in this thread...?