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Ask the Admissions Teams - Results Day 2020

Hi again everyone! We (@Christ's Admissions, @Murray Edwards Admissions and ourselves) are back to help answer any questions about results, the summer pool, confirmation of places and starting at Cambridge. This thread will run through A level results week and until the 21st August. We've put together a short FAQ below to help answer some of the most common questions at this time of year. TSR also has a very helpful guide on results day. Edit (12/08/2020): please also see the Cambridge guide to outcomes of results here.

We know how stressful and emotional it can all be. We all get quite invested too, particularly in cases where we have applicants who we've seen in school, have come to our events/open days then the offer-holders open day or applicants who we know have had to overcome some seriously tough times. There's honestly quite a bit of air punching and excitement or swearing and disappointment when the results come in. It isn't us spouting clichés, we really do view each applicant as an individual and we're rooting for them!

If your question is along the lines of 'I think I missed my offer, what are my chances' then I'm afraid that nobody on TSR can help as all decisions on missed offers are made individually on case-by-case basis and there's really no point in engaging in long hypotheticals or trying to learn from previous cases. All our offer-holders are individuals and we treat them as such.

FAQ
More general information, an FAQ about results day is here!

When do you get the results and make decisions?
We have some results now and will get more in the next few days and will aim to make and enter decisions for the majority of applicants ready for them to go live A level results day. However, there will be cases where a decision cannot be made yet (usually because we have placed you in the Summer Pool because you were very close to meeting the offer you were set).

What could happen?
Accepted if you meet the offer conditions
Accepted even though you missed
Still under consideration by you preference College or the Summer Pool
Rejected and released to your insurance choice or clearing if you miss the offer and are not thought to be of interest in the Summer Pool (the University has clear guidelines for this)

You won't be accepted by another College on the 13th.

If you miss your offer and are still pending on the 14th, the Summer Pool takes place and you may:
Be accepted by your preference College
Be accepted by another College
Be rejected and released to your insurance choice or clearing

How will I know if I’m in?
You will know via UCAS Track, from the results you have achieved (if you meet or exceed your offer, your place is certain) and you should also hear from the College by email (hopefully on results day but possibly the next day). If Track updates to show you as ‘unconditional’ at Cambridge then you’re in, regardless of whether the results you get meet the offer or not. Celebrate! Do not phone, email or turn up to check if it says you’re in, then you’re in.

When will UCAS Track update?
Track updates by 8 am on the 13th. Don't read too much into things if your Track doesn't update - go and get your results before contacting us. There may just be a delay in the news getting from Cambridge to UCAS (we don’t update Track, UCAS do).

If Track hasn’t updated then collect your results before getting in touch with your college. Emailing your college is better than phoning (we’re busy and answering phones slows us down but we’ll respond to emails as and when we can). Do not turn up at the College as you will not be allowed in to see the Admissions Team and there’s nothing you can’t do via email.

I’ve missed my offer what now?
If you have missed your offer conditions then you could still end up at Cambridge if Track is showing ‘conditional.’ Your preference College may decide to relax your conditions if you have just fallen short of your offer. All decisions are taken on a case-by-case basis taking all available information into account. This includes your personal statement, Admissions Assessment, submitted written work, teacher’s reference, interview reports, how close the missing grade was, how many other people missed their offer in your subject etc.

If your preference College isn’t willing to relax your conditions then you may be either rejected or put into the Summer Pool (see below).

If your Track shows as rejected then I’m afraid your application to Cambridge has been unsuccessful and you have been passed to your insurance choice or into clearing. This won’t be what you hoped for so take some time to let things sink in. If this has happened there is no way to revisit your application unless a re-mark or results appeal means that you meet the original conditions of your offer by 31st August. A re-mark where you grades improve but don’t meet the offer conditions will not allow us to take you.

More information on what to do if you have missed your offer but would intend to take exams in the autumn will be posted here in due course. We would, however, recommend informing your college when you are sure that this is the route you wish to take.

Should I reapply?

Christ’s will be running a post-exams clinic to help state school students who did better than they thought decide whether to apply to Cambridge for 2021 entry. Successful reapplicants typically exceed the typical offer for their course so if you haven’t met the offer and don’t have compelling extenuating circumstances then a reapplication for the same or a different course is unlikely to be successful.

We appreciate that you have been thinking about starting in Cambridge and it will be a shock if you’re not accepted but remember that there are many excellent universities and that students who don’t come to Cambridge go on to do fantastically well, and be fantastically happy, elsewhere. Don’t make any rash decisions (e.g. rejecting your insurance because you feel angry) without talking to your supporters and advisers first.

I was rejected in January but have great results! Can I come to Cambridge?

The only way to start at Cambridge in October is to hold an offer already or be eligible for Adjustment. You will have been informed in January if you meet our widening participation criteria. If you were not told at this time, you are not eligible.

There have been claims this year that there may be places available as international students are less likely to attend. This is NOT TRUE. Please do not call us ‘on the off chance’ there is no chance of you being given a place this way, no matter your results.

There is no opportunity to revisit unsuccessful applications at this point. Christ’s will be running an advice clinic if you want to think about reapplying for 2021 entry but remember that you may be rejected a second time so you should only consider this if you’re excited about the idea of a gap year and have something planned. Take your time and think very carefully about offers you hold to start in 2018.

What should(n’t) I do?
DO: Make a plan ahead of time for what you will do in case you miss your conditions. Are you happy with your insurance? Do you want to go into clearing?

DO: Take a charged smartphone if you have one, along with the relevant email addresses and phone numbers you might need.

DO: Stay calm! If you don’t get the results you were hoping for then it is probably best to get on top of sorting out remarks (once you’ve checked Track) before getting in touch with us as they are time-sensitive.

DON’T: Inform us of extenuating circumstances on results day we can’t take them into account unless we know about them in advance.

DON’T: Phone to check if you’re really in or that there’s not a mistake on Track or you’ve not been sent the wrong letter if you’re in then you’re in congratulations!

DON’T: Phone around colleges hoping to be accepted that isn’t how the Summer Pool works. If you weren’t made an offer in January then I’m afraid there’s no way to be accepted now. If you’re thinking of reapplying then there’ll be another thread for you along shortly. Please note that Cambridge does not take part in adjustment.

DON’T: Get your teacher/parent/carer/supporter/friend to call up for you. We can only discuss the details with the candidate themselves.

The Summer Pool
It is much smaller than the Winter Pool and about 25% of this is Maths. There isn't a set number of places - this depends on how many colleges are looking, how short of students they are (in all subjects) and who is in the pool. Colleges and the University can vary the number of students taken overall and taken in most subjects in response to the strength of candidates. Colleges would rather end up with a smaller year group than take a weak candidate* but success rates are generally higher than in the Winter Pool as colleges only Pool candidates who are realistic prospects for a place.

*So if you are fished you are meant to be at Cambridge - students from the Summer Pool or with waived conditions get the same results (no significant difference statistically) as those who met their offers.

How do I get put in the Summer Pool?
The College you hold an offer at decides whether they want to relax your offer or not and whether they think you're of interest in the Summer Pool (but there are strong guidelines as to what counts as a realistic Summer Pool candidate and there are some compulsory pooling criteria, just like at the Winter Pool). Only a minority of those candidates who miss their offer are put in the Pool.

THE PROCESS IS DIFFERENT IF YOU ARE AN OPEN OFFER HOLDER SEE BELOW

How will I know if I am being put in the Pool?
Your preference College should tell you on the 13th that you are being put in the Pool and check that you’re happy with this. If you’d rather be released to your insurance or into clearing then let them know at this point.

THE PROCESS IS DIFFERENT IF YOU ARE AN OPEN OFFER HOLDER SEE BELOW

When is it?
The Pool happens on the Friday after results day (14th).

When will I find out if I’ve been taken?
You should hear by the Friday evening but there is a chance that a small number of people won’t hear until the Monday. You’ll hear whether you are successful or not but please be reactive and don’t chase us the more time we spend answering phones or emails then the less time we have to do what needs doing.


Open offers
I have an open offer what does this mean?
If you have an open offer and meet your conditions then your place at Cambridge is guaranteed. However, which college you’ll be at may not be determined until the Summer Pool on the 14th. We would then aim to communicate decisions as quickly as possible via email and UCAS track, to be followed up by full details in the post exactly as for others offered places in the summer pool. If you are an open offer holder and you miss your conditions, you may still be put in the Summer Pool but you wouldn’t be guaranteed a place.

Freshers information

How do I get my university email address?
You don't have to wait until you get here but you do have to wait for an email from Student Registry. This will have instructions on what to do. There's a leaflet from the University with information which is sent to all our incoming students but it can also be found at http://www.uis.cam.ac.uk/for-students/gettingstarted

Is there any preliminary reading?
Glad to hear you’re keen! There might be or there might not be, depending on your course and College. If there is anything your Director of Studies would like you to do then they will be in touch but please don’t chase us - there might not be any and make sure you’re taking a break!

Depending on your course you might also be registered for Moodle before you arrive so you can access reading lists and preliminary work. This can be done using the email address you gave on your application (which I hope you all kept up to date and isn't an expired school email!).

When should I arrive?
Your College will be in touch with dates. Lectures etc. will start in the week of the 1st Oct so most students will arrive over the weekend before and certainly by the 2nd. Your college may specify arrival times to help with the unloading of hundreds of cars into old buildings.

Overseas and EU students may be allowed to arrive a week earlier to attend some of the optional settling in events in international freshers week. You may also have to arrive early for course-specific summer schools etc. but your College will be in touch.

How do I sort accommodation?
Your College will be in touch with details of your accommodation. Cambridge is not like other universities - we work on the assumption that everyone will live in so you don't need to register for accommodation in the same way as at other universities. Your college will let you know when you can move in.

What's provided in my room?
It is difficult to say exactly what you'll get in all colleges but your room will be furnished and you'll almost certainly be provided with a duvet, pillow, lamp, desk, chair etc. Your college may be in touch with more information, otherwise drop your JCR freshers' rep an email - they'll be happy to answer any questions you have. There may also be an official freshers group on facebook or something.
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Thanks to the 3 of you for staffing this thread, and for the excellent Results Day vade mecum.

Best wishes to you, as well as all your AT colleagues, as the JCQ results file drops into your inboxes tonight.
Original post by 学生の父
Thanks to the 3 of you for staffing this thread, and for the excellent Results Day vade mecum.

Best wishes to you, as well as all your AT colleagues, as the JCQ results file drops into your inboxes tonight.

What do you mean by "the JCQ results file drops into your inboxes tonight."?
Original post by HxshBrxwn
What do you mean by "the JCQ results file drops into your inboxes tonight."?


The universities all receive the A-level results from UCAS this evening. The results are under embargo until 8 a.m. on Thursday 13 August, however.

This is the reason Track ceased to be updated at 2 o'clock this afternoon. Universities may not now discuss individual applications with applicants lest they should inadvertently breach the embargo.
Original post by 学生の父
The universities all receive the A-level results from UCAS this evening. The results are under embargo until 8 a.m. on Thursday 13 August, however.

This is the reason Track ceased to be updated at 2 o'clock this afternoon. Universities may not now discuss individual applications with applicants lest they should inadvertently breach the embargo.

Thanks for clarifying, ahhh scary that they have already got them/about to in a few hours!! Just have to wait and see...
I have heard that Cambridge (among other universities) is preparing for a higher intake of freshers - does this mean, for example, more Maths students being admitted?
When can we expect information on autumn exams?
Original post by Theloniouss
When can we expect information on autumn exams?

When we have it, which we don't yet! We would expect it before next Thursday.

The information I am referring to is 'what the procedure will be if you intend to decline or have missed your insurance and would rather sit autumn exams than go into clearing'.
Original post by Peterhouse Admissions
When we have it, which we don't yet! We would expect it before next Thursday.

The information I am referring to is 'what the procedure will be if you intend to decline or have missed your insurance and would rather sit autumn exams than go into clearing'.

I was under the impression that we were allowed to sit autumn exams as though they were the real thing and get unconditional offers (for next year) based on them. Is that no longer the case?
Original post by Theloniouss
I was under the impression that we were allowed to sit autumn exams as though they were the real thing and get unconditional offers (for next year) based on them. Is that no longer the case?

Your offer for next year would still be conditional on you achieving your exam grades in the autumn exams. But we are not sure whether we will reject those who miss at UCAS, then they reapply and automatically get given an offer, or whether we can carry the offer over at UCAS. It's mainly procedural but will affect what offer holders see on Track on Results Day.
Original post by thekidwhogames
I have heard that Cambridge (among other universities) is preparing for a higher intake of freshers - does this mean, for example, more Maths students being admitted?

This year our numbers are strictly controlled by the government - we cannot take more than 5% more students than we usually do and this is to allow for flexibility depending on how many students meet their offer. So we are not setting out to take more students than we usually would.
Original post by Peterhouse Admissions
Your offer for next year would still be conditional on you achieving your exam grades in the autumn exams. But we are not sure whether we will reject those who miss at UCAS, then they reapply and automatically get given an offer, or whether we can carry the offer over at UCAS. It's mainly procedural but will affect what offer holders see on Track on Results Day.

Yeah, of course, but I assumed offers would be given out at normal times (i.e. Jan 15th), so they would be given out as unconditional if you got the grades.

Thanks for the clarification :smile:
Thanks for doing this! You mentioned students who narrowly missed their grade and may still be accepted to Cambridge. How will this work with the results this year as we won't be given a mark but a grade? Thanks :smile:
Thank you so much for this thread! Weird question here, but If I missed my offer and I was lucky enough to get an offer from the summer pool, are you able then to choose between the new college and your insurance? Or is agreeing to be placed in the pool agreeing to any college and results in giving up insurance if it works out? I hope this makes sense !!
Original post by MankyShoe
Thank you so much for this thread! Weird question here, but If I missed my offer and I was lucky enough to get an offer from the summer pool, are you able then to choose between the new college and your insurance? Or is agreeing to be placed in the pool agreeing to any college and results in giving up insurance if it works out? I hope this makes sense !!

Hi there! I don't know the answer to this one, I'm afraid. I would guess the answer is yes, but I will check!
Original post by Peterhouse Admissions
Hi there! I don't know the answer to this one, I'm afraid. I would guess the answer is yes, but I will check!

thank you so much!!
Oxford are taking in students from disadvantaged backgrounds who miss their grades by 1 or 2. Is Cambridge considering this or is this out of the question?
Original post by _.angelica._
Oxford are taking in students from disadvantaged backgrounds who miss their grades by 1 or 2. Is Cambridge considering this or is this out of the question?

Hi there! Every decision we make abut offer holders who have missed their offer will take into account their whole application, including the context in which they have achieved their results. We do not have a blanket policy of accepting disadvantaged students who have met their offers, but we will be using as much information as possible in order to make a nuanced decision in every case.
Are there differences between how the colleges handle this? I have an offer at Christ's and I'm worried that they'll be less likely to accept narrowly missed offers because they're supposedly quite strict academically. Do they put a lot of candidates in the summer pool or not?

Secondly, what are the criteria for being put into the summer pool?

EDIT: I told my school about my extenuating circumstances (car accident) in March, should I check with Christ's that my school told them about it? My school said they would but now I'm worried in case they haven't

@Christ's Admissions
(edited 3 years ago)
Original post by Peterhouse Admissions
Hi there! Every decision we make abut offer holders who have missed their offer will take into account their whole application, including the context in which they have achieved their results. We do not have a blanket policy of accepting disadvantaged students who have met their offers, but we will be using as much information as possible in order to make a nuanced decision in every case.

Okay, thank you very much :smile:

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