I can't believe the government is considering another lockdown over 21 deaths

The case count literally doesn't matter, we have more testing, more treatments, younger people being infected, etc. Even if we had the same number of cases as the first wave (worst case scenario, but won't happen thanks to mask wearing), we would likely have less than a third of the deaths because the people being infected are younger, care homes are better protected and we have more treatments. The impacts of the lockdown on the economy and mental health would be devastating.

I have no idea why people keep going on and on about cases. Look at the deaths. Look only at the deaths. Isn't preventing too many deaths the whole point of the initial restrictions? If we can bring the mortality rate down to a rate that is similar to the flu (0.1%), why should we have any restrictions at all?

Did you know that during the winter months, we average 50 flu deaths per day? What I am genuinely most scared off is that even after coronavirus is gone, some people will *still* be wearing masks to bring down flu deaths. We've had flu for well over 100 years in this country btw, it kills a average of 50 people each day in the winter.

You know what's currently killing 25 times more people per day than the coronavirus? Heart attacks. Perhaps we should completely ban all junk food? I mean, that would probably save more life in the long term than a second lockdown.

No, the initial restrictions were to stop the spread and the NHS being overwhelmed by patients. Another set of restrictions would do the same, and save resources on future on those who could recover from COVID but suffer long-term effects. The mortality rate is decreasing, but isn't stopping the spread one of those ways?

You are quoting an average of deaths from seasonal flu, but you can just throw out a number without context: over what period? There were just under 1700 deaths from flu in 2018/19.

You have a choice over whether or not you eat junk food. You don't necessarily have a choice over whether or not you catch coronavirus as it could be given to you by soneone who is asymptomatic.

No, the initial restrictions were to stop the spread and the NHS being overwhelmed by patients. Another set of restrictions would do the same, and save resources on future on those who could recover from COVID but suffer long-term effects. The mortality rate is decreasing, but isn't stopping the spread one of those ways?

You are quoting an average of deaths from seasonal flu, but you can just throw out a number without context: over what period? There were just under 1700 deaths from flu in 2018/19.

You have a choice over whether or not you eat junk food. You don't necessarily have a choice over whether or not you catch coronavirus as it could be given to you by soneone who is asymptomatic.

The case count literally doesn't matter, we have more testing, more treatments, younger people being infected, etc. Even if we had the same number of cases as the first wave (worst case scenario, but won't happen thanks to mask wearing), we would likely have less than a third of the deaths because the people being infected are younger, care homes are better protected and we have more treatments. The impacts of the lockdown on the economy and mental health would be devastating.

I have no idea why people keep going on and on about cases. Look at the deaths. Look only at the deaths. Isn't preventing too many deaths the whole point of the initial restrictions? If we can bring the mortality rate down to a rate that is similar to the flu (0.1%), why should we have any restrictions at all?

Did you know that during the winter months, we average 50 flu deaths per day? What I am genuinely most scared off is that even after coronavirus is gone, some people will *still* be wearing masks to bring down flu deaths. We've had flu for well over 100 years in this country btw, it kills a average of 50 people each day in the winter.

You know what's currently killing 25 times more people per day than the coronavirus? Heart attacks. Perhaps we should completely ban all junk food? I mean, that would probably save more life in the long term than a second lockdown.

I'm glad that you're not in a position if power. COVID is known to cause serious, long-term issues in some, and isn't fully understood.

It should have been understood that opening up might need to be dialled back.

I'm glad that you're not in a position if power. COVID is known to cause serious, long-term issues in some, and isn't fully understood.

It should have been understood that opening up might need to be dialled back. Deaths lag infections, which can rise exponentially.

Post viral fatigue has always been a huge issue. That’s what people are suffering with months after Covid because it’s a virus, it’s not a new phenomenon and it’s not that serious

What evidence do you have for that assertion?
Why don't the medical people studying the long-term effects have the same conclusion as you?

No point protecting the NHS if we are just going to leave thousands to die from other treatable diseases which they can now no longer get treatment for.

The case count literally doesn't matter, we have more testing, more treatments, younger people being infected, etc. Even if we had the same number of cases as the first wave (worst case scenario, but won't happen thanks to mask wearing), we would likely have less than a third of the deaths because the people being infected are younger, care homes are better protected and we have more treatments. The impacts of the lockdown on the economy and mental health would be devastating.

I have no idea why people keep going on and on about cases. Look at the deaths. Look only at the deaths. Isn't preventing too many deaths the whole point of the initial restrictions? If we can bring the mortality rate down to a rate that is similar to the flu (0.1%), why should we have any restrictions at all?

Did you know that during the winter months, we average 50 flu deaths per day? What I am genuinely most scared off is that even after coronavirus is gone, some people will *still* be wearing masks to bring down flu deaths. We've had flu for well over 100 years in this country btw, it kills a average of 50 people each day in the winter.

You know what's currently killing 25 times more people per day than the coronavirus? Heart attacks. Perhaps we should completely ban all junk food? I mean, that would probably save more life in the long term than a second lockdown.

No point protecting the NHS if we are just going to leave thousands to die from other treatable diseases which they can now no longer get treatment for.

They just like to be seen to be doing something while actually doing nothing at all productive.

No point protecting the NHS if we are just going to leave thousands to die from other treatable diseases which they can now no longer get treatment for.

exactly, what is wrong with them? why are they prioritising covid over everything else.

Who’s the ‘The medical people’ ?
In terms of research and conclusions being made, post viral fatigue is ABSOLUTELY being considered and talked about as what is happening post coronavirus. The only reason it isn’t being treated is because there isn’t a treatment and never has been

Because Covid has the potential to overwhelm hospital services like nothing else currently going around.

Nobody's saying other health issues aren't important, but very few are as intensive on the support required from professional healthcare workers. That's why this is being treated differently.

Because Covid has the potential to overwhelm hospital services like nothing else currently going around.

Nobody's saying other health issues aren't important, but very few are as intensive on the support required from professional healthcare workers. That's why this is being treated differently.

There is a big difference between "being considered" and a conclusion.

I would assert that the best way to avoid post viral fatigue is not to catch the virus ..