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Hi, I'm thinking of studying wit UoL in Sept 2021. I have heard mixed reviews and some have said that this is all a scam and not very good, so I'm a bit concerned about that. Can anyone put my mind at ease.Thanks :smile:
Original post by Kateflanders87
Hi, I'm thinking of studying wit UoL in Sept 2021. I have heard mixed reviews and some have said that this is all a scam and not very good, so I'm a bit concerned about that. Can anyone put my mind at ease.Thanks :smile:

what have you heard that is negative? i applied there too, let me know thanks
I've heard that it is a scam and they are only interested in taking your money, and that they aren't very supportive.
I've just been offered a place with Arden University, but I've not heard much about them. Do you know anything about them?? Put into Google, University of Law reviews, that's what I did and all sorts of information came up.

Hope this helps!!
Original post by Kateflanders87
I've heard that it is a scam and they are only interested in taking your money, and that they aren't very supportive.
I've just been offered a place with Arden University, but I've not heard much about them. Do you know anything about them?? Put into Google, University of Law reviews, that's what I did and all sorts of information came up.

Hope this helps!!

I’m not sure about Arden. But I will defo look up UoL because I was really interested in going. I applied for Anglia ruskin have you heard anything about them.
hiiii i’ve got an offer for Law and Criminology at UoL leeds but not sure now i’m hearing of the bad reviews ???? i was picking between UoL and Loughborough but i thought maybe the reputation for UoL had gotten better over the last few years ?
Original post by Amy Forbes
Hello..I'm a February 2021 student, in search of housemates in Leeds. Please reach out if any leads available.. Thanks


Hey Amy, have you checked out any Facebook groups for Ulaw Leeds? There are often others looking for housemates and possibly even a separate housemate Facebook page :-)

Tasha
Original post by Kateflanders87
Hi, I'm thinking of studying wit UoL in Sept 2021. I have heard mixed reviews and some have said that this is all a scam and not very good, so I'm a bit concerned about that. Can anyone put my mind at ease.Thanks :smile:


Hey Kate,

I’ve been at Ulaw 3.5 years now (done my LLB for 3 years now onto the LPC LLM) and I can confirm it’s not a scam haha I love the uni! Is there anything I can help with specifically to put your mind at ease - any questions to answer? :-)

Tasha
Original post by lmwilliams
hiiii i’ve got an offer for Law and Criminology at UoL leeds but not sure now i’m hearing of the bad reviews ???? i was picking between UoL and Loughborough but i thought maybe the reputation for UoL had gotten better over the last few years ?


Hey,

I studied my LLB law but LLB Law with Crim is quite similar in first year (then differs second and third due to your electives being centred around crim law) is there anything I can help with? I loved my LLB with ULaw and have done open days as a student ambassador helping with the crim and policing department and personally know one of the teachers she’s amazing!

Tasha :-)
Original post by The University of Law Students

I’ve been at Ulaw 3.5 years now (done my LLB for 3 years now onto the LPC LLM) and I can confirm it’s not a scam haha I love the uni! Is there anything I can help with specifically to put your mind at ease - any questions to answer? :-)

Hi Tasha, I've applied and received offers to take the LPC programme for both BPP and Ulaw commencing this September. It has been driving me a bit insane over this past week as I've tried to narrow down key factors that would allow me to make a firm decision.

I have sifted through multiple threads on TSR about the pros and cons of both institutions, opinions made by past students of those respective institutions. I have heard that BPP examinations are largely closed-book as opposed to UoL where some exams are open-book. Personally, I am leaning towards the idea of the open-book exams, but another issue I have is location. London is accessible for me as I can travel to central London by train which takes around 20-25 mins. But with the uncertainty that is COVID causing multiple lockdowns, I was considering BPP's other branch institution in Cambridge - thinking I would still get my contact hours worth for paying less overall for the year.

Some queries you could assist me with are: what are the contact hours like? I have heard of the 2-day, 4-day schedule, but what are the actual contact hours like when you are there at the law school? Are classes/seminars fulfilling, how respondent are the tutors, and is the feedback on work of good quality? I am unsure on this topic, but how is the social aspect of attending this law school to study the LPC? It is quite an independent course in which you are left to your own devices (so to speak), but I'd like to know the support of seminars and if there is a social life? Currently, with the lockdowns, are all course materials switched to online streaming courses, toward an electronic learning environment? Will there be a change back to face-to-face classes once the lockdown lifts?

Sorry for the tedious list of questions.
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Original post by Kateflanders87
Hi, I'm thinking of studying wit UoL in Sept 2021. I have heard mixed reviews and some have said that this is all a scam and not very good, so I'm a bit concerned about that. Can anyone put my mind at ease.Thanks :smile:

Hello Kate

Thats great news to hear that you want to study at ULAW this coming September. ULAW is not a scam, I have studied at ULAW for nearly 4 years! the teachers are amazing and so helpful! I feel that doing my LLB at ULAW has helped me a LOT with my LPC as I learnt the key foundations and I found the transition much easier.

You also get a lot of help from services; such as the careers team, your year-group lead, the librarians and the student information team!

If you have any further questions, please do ask and I am sure Tasha or I can help you :smile:

Tabby (Student Ambassador)
Original post by Callomir
Hi Tasha, I've applied and received offers to take the LPC programme for both BPP and Ulaw commencing this September. It has been driving me a bit insane over this past week as I've tried to narrow down key factors that would allow me to make a firm decision.

I have sifted through multiple threads on TSR about the pros and cons of both institutions, opinions made by past students of those respective institutions. I have heard that BPP examinations are largely closed-book as opposed to UoL where some exams are open-book. Personally, I am leaning towards the idea of the open-book exams, but another issue I have is location. London is accessible for me as I can travel to central London by train which takes around 20-25 mins. But with the uncertainty that is COVID causing multiple lockdowns, I was considering BPP's other branch institution in Cambridge - thinking I would still get my contact hours worth for paying less overall for the year.

Some queries you could assist me with are: what are the contact hours like? I have heard of the 2-day, 4-day schedule, but what are the actual contact hours like when you are there at the law school? Are classes/seminars fulfilling, how respondent are the tutors, and is the feedback on work of good quality? I am unsure on this topic, but how is the social aspect of attending this law school to study the LPC? It is quite an independent course in which you are left to your own devices (so to speak), but I'd like to know the support of seminars and if there is a social life? Currently, with the lockdowns, are all course materials switched to online streaming courses, toward an electronic learning environment? Will there be a change back to face-to-face classes once the lockdown lifts?

Sorry for the tedious list of questions.

Hello

I saw your post and I thought I could reply as me and Tasha are from different campuses.

Yes, as you said ULAW is largely Open book exams, all of your core modules (Business, Introduction to professional practice (IPP), Real Estate and Dispute Resolution) are open book! I personally love open book as I am very organised. I have created contents pages and tabbed each page. I have colour coded my tabbing system so that it is the same throughout all of my modules too.

You are also assessed via a range of modes on the IPP course (interviewing a client, an advocacy assessment (involving presenting a hearing before a judge, practical research topic, legal writing (typical writing a letter or memorandum to a client to your supervisor) and drafting (drafting a lease, contract or other legal document.

I will answer your questions as a list so that it is easier to view :smile:

what are the contact hours like?
I like the contact hours I feel it is just enough. On the lPC there is a large element of independent study, so you will need to do the prep reading and prep tasks beforehand. This can also involve watching a tutorial or lecture too

what are the actual contact hours like when you are there at the law school?
At the beginning you study 4 modules, so this is 8 hours a week. But, by October you will only do 3 modules so that's 6 hours a week and 2 hours for each.

Are classes/seminars fulfilling, how respondent are the tutors, and is the feedback on work of good quality?
YES! I would completely agree they are fulfilling! Each workshop is based on a new topic and there is lots to cover in each! You defiantly feel like you have learnt something after the workshop. The teachers are amazing, I honestly mean that, each week I tend to write a list of questions and I either email them or stay after the workshop to ask them and all of my teachers are happy to go over anything that I don't understand! They are so helpful! They really want you to succeed and do well. They always give you nifty tips and tricks for exams; such as exam structure or how to answer an essay. The feedback we get is excellent, the teachers mark our mocks and these get sent back to us. Also with other mock assessments such as interviewing and advocacy you will receive your feedback within 24 hours!

I have been a student at ULAW for nearly 4 years and throughout my LPC and LLB the teachers have been amazing and I have always felt that the lessons have been fulfilling!

how is the social aspect of attending this law school to study the LPC?
I mean with the pandemic it is hard to socialise within your teaching group! But I have found that getting involved in my local junior lawyers division has helped me meet new people and chat! I would say that I still have a social life aha! I tend to try and do all of my LPC work during the week! They do say you could treat it as a 9-5 job and I do try and do that most days. However, I do have a part-time job at a local law firm and I still find the time to complete my work.

I think the key is to be organised, set yourself deadlines and make yourself a daily to do list! I find this helps massively and its so rewarding ticking everything off and seeing what you have achieved that day

The support of seminars?
Again, as above, the support is second to none! The teachers are so helpful, even though the lessons are virtual now, we are put into break out rooms and the teachers go in and out of each one to see if anyone has any questions. You can also privately message the teacher during the lesson (I quite often do this). The teachers are always happy to repeat anything as well. This year we have also had access to the Slides used during the workshops, I find printing them out before the lesson really useful!

Social Life?
There is a new virtual social life. At the Guildford council there are online quizzes you can get involved in and many virtual talk events which are run by the careers team.

Currently, with the lockdowns, are all course materials switched to online streaming courses, toward an electronic learning environment?
So, at the beginning of the semester we were posted our books and course materials, so we all have a hard copy. You can also access them online via our Elite! Its up to you if you prefer to make hard or soft copy notes! It is only the lessons which take place online, so you can watch the workshop and take notes on your laptop or simply write them in your folder.

Will there be a change back to face-to-face classes once the lockdown lifts?
I believe so!! We began the semester (in September 2020) on campus, but we all sat apart i.e. in exam conditions style. So I imagine we will go back to the same sort of system once the lockdown is lifted. I know that ULAW is doing all it can so that we can go back to face-to-face teaching.

I do hope this helps :smile:

If you have any other questions; please do ask

Tabby

(Student Ambassador - Guildford)
Original post by The University of Law Students
Hello

I saw your post and I thought I could reply as me and Tasha are from different campuses.

Yes, as you said ULAW is largely Open book exams, all of your core modules (Business, Introduction to professional practice (IPP), Real Estate and Dispute Resolution) are open book! I personally love open book as I am very organised. I have created contents pages and tabbed each page. I have colour coded my tabbing system so that it is the same throughout all of my modules too.

You are also assessed via a range of modes on the IPP course (interviewing a client, an advocacy assessment (involving presenting a hearing before a judge, practical research topic, legal writing (typical writing a letter or memorandum to a client to your supervisor) and drafting (drafting a lease, contract or other legal document.

I will answer your questions as a list so that it is easier to view :smile:

what are the contact hours like?
I like the contact hours I feel it is just enough. On the lPC there is a large element of independent study, so you will need to do the prep reading and prep tasks beforehand. This can also involve watching a tutorial or lecture too

what are the actual contact hours like when you are there at the law school?
At the beginning you study 4 modules, so this is 8 hours a week. But, by October you will only do 3 modules so that's 6 hours a week and 2 hours for each.

Are classes/seminars fulfilling, how respondent are the tutors, and is the feedback on work of good quality?
YES! I would completely agree they are fulfilling! Each workshop is based on a new topic and there is lots to cover in each! You defiantly feel like you have learnt something after the workshop. The teachers are amazing, I honestly mean that, each week I tend to write a list of questions and I either email them or stay after the workshop to ask them and all of my teachers are happy to go over anything that I don't understand! They are so helpful! They really want you to succeed and do well. They always give you nifty tips and tricks for exams; such as exam structure or how to answer an essay. The feedback we get is excellent, the teachers mark our mocks and these get sent back to us. Also with other mock assessments such as interviewing and advocacy you will receive your feedback within 24 hours!

I have been a student at ULAW for nearly 4 years and throughout my LPC and LLB the teachers have been amazing and I have always felt that the lessons have been fulfilling!

how is the social aspect of attending this law school to study the LPC?
I mean with the pandemic it is hard to socialise within your teaching group! But I have found that getting involved in my local junior lawyers division has helped me meet new people and chat! I would say that I still have a social life aha! I tend to try and do all of my LPC work during the week! They do say you could treat it as a 9-5 job and I do try and do that most days. However, I do have a part-time job at a local law firm and I still find the time to complete my work.

I think the key is to be organised, set yourself deadlines and make yourself a daily to do list! I find this helps massively and its so rewarding ticking everything off and seeing what you have achieved that day

The support of seminars?
Again, as above, the support is second to none! The teachers are so helpful, even though the lessons are virtual now, we are put into break out rooms and the teachers go in and out of each one to see if anyone has any questions. You can also privately message the teacher during the lesson (I quite often do this). The teachers are always happy to repeat anything as well. This year we have also had access to the Slides used during the workshops, I find printing them out before the lesson really useful!

Social Life?
There is a new virtual social life. At the Guildford council there are online quizzes you can get involved in and many virtual talk events which are run by the careers team.

Currently, with the lockdowns, are all course materials switched to online streaming courses, toward an electronic learning environment?
So, at the beginning of the semester we were posted our books and course materials, so we all have a hard copy. You can also access them online via our Elite! Its up to you if you prefer to make hard or soft copy notes! It is only the lessons which take place online, so you can watch the workshop and take notes on your laptop or simply write them in your folder.

Will there be a change back to face-to-face classes once the lockdown lifts?
I believe so!! We began the semester (in September 2020) on campus, but we all sat apart i.e. in exam conditions style. So I imagine we will go back to the same sort of system once the lockdown is lifted. I know that ULAW is doing all it can so that we can go back to face-to-face teaching.

I do hope this helps :smile:

If you have any other questions; please do ask

Tabby

(Student Ambassador - Guildford)

Thank you so much Tabby for the time and effort it took to write up your reply, I am genuinely grateful for your insight on this matter. The aspects you covered on support and what tutors offer you (as students) is the most important to me as travelling into London for either ULaw or BPP is of relative ease. Due to the pandemic, I have been unable to physically attend an Open Day. I personally prefer to attend the lessons face-to-face, though of course this cannot be helped with the lockdown restrictions as I just wanted a feel of what the classes were going to potentially be like. Thank you for answering all of my aforementioned questions, again it has been tremendously useful to me.

~ Ryan
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Original post by The University of Law Students
Hey,

I studied my LLB law but LLB Law with Crim is quite similar in first year (then differs second and third due to your electives being centred around crim law) is there anything I can help with? I loved my LLB with ULaw and have done open days as a student ambassador helping with the crim and policing department and personally know one of the teachers she’s amazing!

Tasha :-)

hey,

do you think it's possible to become a lawyer by just doing a three year uni degree (LLB??) ? is it neccessary to study futher?
Original post by 232shano
hey,

do you think it's possible to become a lawyer by just doing a three year uni degree (LLB??) ? is it neccessary to study futher?

AFAIK, further study is required to become a lawyer. Solicitors at the current moment need to have LPC training to get a training contract. So, this entails a one-year study course, and then two years of work experience at a firm via the training contract. However, you could look at alternatives like becoming a paralegal. This way you don't necessarily have to do further studies beyond university, but eventually, you'll get similar work to solicitors, just know the workplace ceiling is higher for solicitors. Otherwise, there's the new SQE programme which will supersede the existing LPC, by which time if you have not already started university, you will most likely have the SQE as the only choice should you decide to go on becoming a solicitor/barrister.
Original post by 232shano
hey,

do you think it's possible to become a lawyer by just doing a three year uni degree (LLB??) ? is it neccessary to study futher?


Hey! Adding to what Callomir said :

Yes you need further study

What study you need depends on whether you wish to become a solicitor or barrister. I know more about the solicitor route as that’s my career line

For barrister, after LLB you need to study the BPC which is a 1 year course

For solicitor, you need to study the LPC which is a 1 year course, followed by a Training Contract which is 2 years paid employment/ work experience as already said. However, the LPC is being replaced by the SQE now... they will run side by side for a bit. If you’ve already started your LLB you can choose which route to take, but if you haven’t you will have to take the SQE.

For the SQE it goes: finish LLB, take SQE prep course (you don’t HAVE to but most people will need to) then take SQE1 test which is all multiple choice questions, then take SQE2 test which tests various skills such as legal writing and advocacy. You also need 2 years qualifying work experience

The SQE was made to be more financially accessible for people although its unsure whether it’s been achieved tbh. But they’re both similar- both need 2 years work experience (but with SQE you can split this across 4 different places.. with LPC it’s all at one place and very competitive), both test practical skills such as advocacy, writing, interviewing via assessments

Hope that helps :-)
Original post by 232shano
hey,

do you think it's possible to become a lawyer by just doing a three year uni degree (LLB??) ? is it neccessary to study futher?


There’s also something called the Cilex route where you don’t have to do the SQE or the LPC. I’m not 100% sure on all the requirements because it differs depending on what studies you’ve already done but it’s worth checking out!
Original post by Callomir
Otherwise, there's the new SQE programme which will supersede the existing LPC, by which time if you have not already started university, you will most likely have the SQE as the only choice should you decide to go on becoming a solicitor/barrister.

The SQE is not applicable to becoming a barrister. It's for solicitors. The route to becoming a barrister is to do a law degree (or non law degree followed by the GDL) and then the Bar course. That's had various names over time, including the Bar Vocational Course (BVC), Bar Professional Training Course (BPTC), and is now called the Bar Training Course (BTC), though some universities call it the Bar Practice Course (BPC). But all of those names mean the same thing. It is a one year vocational course that is the barrister equivalent of the LPC. That's the current route, and will be for the foreseeable future.

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