War on Woke

All we have asked is that BAME people have fair and equitable treatment. To achieve this, we must highlight Britain's disgraceful, evil and racist colonialist past that all white people benefitted from, and face up to how Churchill was a colonialist racist.

I don't agree that to achieve the first goal we have to highlight Britains shameful past beyond teaching children about it in history lessons at school.

Powerful countries all have shady things in their past, things they are ashamed of by today's standards but to accept that does not mean we have to completely destroy our history and heritage. Better to be open and educated about the past so that we can learn lessons from it than seek to destroy any reference to it in my opinion.

I completely agree with you in that we must be open and educated about the past. However the simple fact is that Britain has a racist colonialist past and that is not up for discussion, and to pretend it is causes harm to BAME and LGBT+ folk. Just because we are open and honest about the past does not mean we should glorify it. All statues of slavers and racists (Chruchill included) must come down. I fully support Sadiq and his review into these matters. At least one politician still has integrity.

I don't agree that to achieve the first goal we have to highlight Britains shameful past beyond teaching children about it in history lessons at school.

Powerful countries all have shady things in their past, things they are ashamed of by today's standards but to accept that does not mean we have to completely destroy our history and heritage. Better to be open and educated about the past so that we can learn lessons from it than seek to destroy any reference to it in my opinion.

What i find amusing is the users distinct inference that its only those 'evil racist white colonialist' countries that have stains on their history and thus any country that is "bame" (surely lobbing everything ethnic group under this is discriminatory in its own right?) is not but a squeaky clean poor victim. Either an alarming ignorance of both basic history and current affairs or a disgracefully biased view steeped in, what can only be described as, propaganda that only the white man (or in this case Britain's) can do evil whilst politely ignoring not only the good the nation has done but the, arguably, worse crimes of many others. As but a case in point, if a mildly hackneyed one at this point, whom was it that engaged in selling their kin to slave traders and whom was it who spent billions of pounds and thousands of lives to stamp it out? The amusing bit being that both the former and latter bits tend to be ignored by these historically illiterate 'wokeists' to ram home their own selective view of history, bereft of nuance.

The Woke Brigade always seem so angry like to have a different viewpoint is to be an evil person - they seem to have more in common with extremist groups then the liberal left they come from in that regard.

So by their biased logic, not wanting to see statues destroyed just because they want them to be is enough evidence to label you a racist 🤷🏼*♀️

So universities are going to be fined for preventing Islamists from speaking?

Where does it say that?

First line of the article

I would expect unis to be fined for encouraging speeches from any fundamentalists with an anti free speech agenda regardless of their religious/political backgrounds.

The Woke Brigade always seem so angry like to have a different viewpoint is to be an evil person - they seem to have more in common with extremist groups then the liberal left they come from in that regard.

So by their biased logic, not wanting to see statues destroyed just because they want them to be is enough evidence to label you a racist 🤷🏼*♀️

When you start saying universities should be fined for encouraging ideas which are not state approved, you cease to be an advocate of freedom of speech.

This may upset some of the get on the bandwagon Woke contingent, but my experience is they can be just as racialist amongst themselves.

Unis should encourage a wide range of ideas and free speech including those not "state approved" such as criticism of Boris and co, but the line has to be drawn at extremism as that is a danger to society.