what bachelor degree should I choose to go to a space engineering program

Original post by Redowan Uddin

Hi my name is Redowan. I recently finished my exams and now am looking for a University. However i am unable to understand what degree should i join into as i have a limiting factor of not being able to understand certain language and most university requires their own language and so am looking at a small range. I really don't know whether certain bachelor decree will allow me to apply for a master degree in space enginnering as it is my ultimate goal. Any suggestion will be helpful

Redowan

Which qualifications do you have already?

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Original post by Kerzen

Redowan

Which qualifications do you have already?

As I said I only have recently finished my A'levels and thus have none qualifications

I have been trying to apply for a German aeronautical engineering for a BSc on it. But there was none to begin with (at least ones which has English and i don't know German). I found certain uni which are giving an English course on engineering physics and on an international physics studies (particularly in university of Oldenburg, Leipzig university and Coburg uni of applied science). But i really don't know whether I an apply for MSc on aerospace engineering using this degree and thus is asking you guys this question.

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Original post by Mr Wednesday

The most obvious route is an undergrad degree in aeronautical engineering, followed by an MSc with a specialism in space through some well thought out options and project selection bending it in a direction that inspires you, but it depends what you want to “build” or design. If its instrumentation then a fair amount of that is actually driven by physicists, and a “real” mission will need a blend of aero, mechanical and electronic engineering + telecoms expertise and a bit of materials science and chemical engineering – it is after all “rocket science

My end goal here is to design and build spaceships myself (and destroying it via crashing :biggrin:

). I could try chemical enginnering if there is a scope of applying a MSc on space enginneing using chemical enginnering (cuz i like blowing up stuffs). Any other bachelor degrees feasible for me to apply for a MSc on space enginnering?

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Original post by Redowan Uddin

As I said I only have recently finished my A'levels and thus have none qualifications

I have been trying to apply for a German aeronautical engineering for a BSc on it. But there was none to begin with (at least ones which has English and i don't know German). I found certain uni which are giving an English course on engineering physics and on an international physics studies (particularly in university of Oldenburg, Leipzig university and Coburg uni of applied science). But i really don't know whether I an apply for MSc on aerospace engineering using this degree and thus is asking you guys this question.

Can you apply to do a BSc in the UK instead of Germany?

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Original post by Kerzen

Can you apply to do a BSc in the UK instead of Germany?

If i really want to cost an arm and a leg then yea well i could. But i don't have that much cash to get in, Much less apply for it.

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Original post by Redowan Uddin

If i really want to cost an arm and a leg then yea well i could. But i don't have that much cash to get in, Much less apply for it.

Is it cheaper for your to study in Germany?

In which country have you taken your A Levels?

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Original post by Kerzen

Can you apply to do a BSc in the UK instead of Germany?

to be fair if u do know any uni that is low in fees then yea it is feasible to go. any recommendation?

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Original post by Kerzen

Is it cheaper for your to study in Germany?

In which country have you taken your A Levels?

I did my A'levels in Bangladesh. My father lives in EU and so have an advantage in staying here using my visa.

Germany has a lot of good universities which has free courses which is an advantage since the country only allows EU residence and I will soon be one. they have a low cost in living compared with others and their uni costs nothing on tutioning

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Original post by Redowan Uddin

to be fair if u do know any uni that is low in fees then yea it is feasible to go. any recommendation?

I don't know what you would regard as being low in fees, but Imperial is always good for these things.

You could get in touch with the person whose e-mail address is given on this page:

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/aeronautics/study/ug/current-students/spacecraft-engineering-h415/

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Original post by Kerzen

I don't know what you would regard as being low in fees, but Imperial is always good for these things.

You could get in touch with the person whose e-mail address is given on this page:

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/aeronautics/study/ug/current-students/spacecraft-engineering-h415/

Ok thanks. Gonna get that in my list.

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Original post by Kerzen

I don't know what you would regard as being low in fees, but Imperial is always good for these things.

You could get in touch with the person whose e-mail address is given on this page:

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/aeronautics/study/ug/current-students/spacecraft-engineering-h415/

I don't think I've ever heard Imperial described as having low fees, I'm pretty sure even Americans wince when they see Imperial tuition costs. For OP the cost of tuition or other university related fees for studying in Germany will be about 3 magnitudes lower than studying at Imperial.

To OP, I would say look at the year in German programs, these will get you up to sufficient fluency in German to take a degree instructed in German, which should reduce costs as usually degrees taught in German are substantially cheaper than those taught in English. I would also bear in mind that typically degrees in Germany have a very high failure rate for international students and most students will take 4-5 years to complete their bachelor's, although this varies a lot depending on the university. I'd say this might make it worth studying in the Netherlands, which will be more expensive but you'll get some help towards this and you're much more likely to finish your bachelor's in 3 years and it will be instructed in English. TU Delft in particular is one of the best universities for aerospace engineering in Europe.

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Original post by Helloworld_95

I don't think I've ever heard Imperial described as having low fees, I'm pretty sure even Americans wince when they see Imperial tuition costs. For OP the cost of tuition or other university related fees for studying in Germany will be about 3 magnitudes lower than studying at Imperial.

I've realised how what I said could have been misinterpreted, it might have been better expressed differently.

When I said "I don't know what you would regard as being low in fees, but Imperial is always good for these things", what I meant was:

"I don't know whether you would consider Imperial's fees as 'low', but it is always good for Science/Engineering disciplines."

It's so easy sometimes to write something on a screen and for it to read completely differently to how you intended it to without you realising.

One of the problems with Imperial, of course, is the fact that living costs are never going to be cheap either.

Having spent a semester at University in Germany, something I was aware of, when I met people from outside Germany who were in the area for other reasons, was how hard they found the language. I and many of the people I knew were studying at the University because we had already spent at least two years reading German at University in the UK and were doing our year abroad, so we had an advantage, but now and then I would meet people living in the area who didn't speak a word of German and had no intention of learning. They didn't really need to because they had non-German speaking family/communities in the area and could speak their own languages all day.

When I got the opportunity to talk to them about language learning, I asked them about their perceptions of English and German. They could all speak English, often quite well and said that they were keen to be even more fluent, but when I suggested that it would be worth learning German, as they were in Germany, they scowled and said it was a very difficult language which they didn't want to learn and that English was much better for them as they hoped to move to the UK at some point. I find German easy, but I know it isn't always for other people.

Re Space Science in the Netherlands, it is true that they have some very good courses. I once lived in Guildford and met a nice young guy who was at Surrey University building and designing satellites. I remember talking to him and he told me that he was studying Space Science at the University of Twente, which does seem to have a link to the subject:

https://spacesocietytwente.nl/association/about-us/

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I haven't put down the possibility of going to a German language course. It is just that I prefer English as I am used to this language than German. Also I do have Delft uni in my lists and some others like LMU Munich and Politecnico di Torino. Any more advice would be nice

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Original post by Helloworld_95

I don't think I've ever heard Imperial described as having low fees, I'm pretty sure even Americans wince when they see Imperial tuition costs. For OP the cost of tuition or other university related fees for studying in Germany will be about 3 magnitudes lower than studying at Imperial.

To OP, I would say look at the year in German programs, these will get you up to sufficient fluency in German to take a degree instructed in German, which should reduce costs as usually degrees taught in German are substantially cheaper than those taught in English. I would also bear in mind that typically degrees in Germany have a very high failure rate for international students and most students will take 4-5 years to complete their bachelor's, although this varies a lot depending on the university. I'd say this might make it worth studying in the Netherlands, which will be more expensive but you'll get some help towards this and you're much more likely to finish your bachelor's in 3 years and it will be instructed in English. TU Delft in particular is one of the best universities for aerospace engineering in Europe.

Can you give a more brief reasoning on why there is a higher failure rate and what it implies. Does it say it is harder to get a degree, it is harder for other uni to accept this degree or they just don't allow others to be in this degree at all?

Also my dad lives in Europe and so has a family visa here so we could be said to be a resident of EU so we technically aren't international students (at least the red visa passport says so). So is my chances of being allowed there is feasible?

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Is this the kind of course you would ultimately want to do? It looks as though it might be.

https://le.ac.uk/courses/space-exploration-systems-msc/2021

You should add Leicester to your list of possibles.

By the way, in which country does your father live? If you are going to live with him, would it help your case to apply to a University in that country?

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Original post by Redowan Uddin

Can you give a more brief reasoning on why there is a higher failure rate and what it implies. Does it say it is harder to get a degree, it is harder for other uni to accept this degree or they just don't allow others to be in this degree at all?

Also my dad lives in Europe and so has a family visa here so we could be said to be a resident of EU so we technically aren't international students (at least the red visa passport says so). So is my chances of being allowed there is feasible?

https://www.tu-chemnitz.de/tu/pressestelle/aktuell/9587/en

Basically difficulties with integrating into German society including language, lack of preparation for and understanding of how the German university system works, financial problems which arise because of the longer than expected degree length.

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Original post by Kerzen

Is this the kind of course you would ultimately want to do? It looks as though it might be.

https://le.ac.uk/courses/space-exploration-systems-msc/2021

You should add Leicester to your list of possibles.

By the way, in which country does your father live? If you are going to live with him, would it help your case to apply to a University in that country?

yea well he is in Italy and I am planning to go there at first. If no luck i will move elsewhere

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