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A particle of mass, M, which is subject to a constant resisting force, is observed to cover distances of s1, and sn respectively in the first and nth seconds of its motion. Find an expression in terms of s1 and sn for the magnitude of the resistance force. How do I make this equation?
Original post by Anon134132523
A particle of mass, M, which is subject to a constant resisting force, is observed to cover distances of s1, and sn respectively in the first and nth seconds of its motion. Find an expression in terms of s1 and sn for the magnitude of the resistance force. How do I make this equation?


Resistance is constant, so acceleration/deceleration is constant, and hence suvat applies.

Consider how far does it travel in the first second? And the n'th second?

You now have two simultaneous equations....
So far I've got:
Part one:
s = s1, u = ?, v = ?, a = a, t= 1
(s + 1/2at^2) / t = v
v = s1 + a/2
Part two:
s = sn- s1, u = s1 + a/2, v = ?, a = a, t = n-1
(s - 1/2at^2)/t = u
((sn-s1) - a/2(n-1)^2) / (n-1) = u
As the final velocity of part one is the initial velocity of part two:
((sn-s1) - a/2(n-1)^2) / (n-1) = s1 + a/2
However, I can't seem to get the right answer from there?
Original post by Anon134132523
So far I've got:
Part one:
s = s1, u = ?, v = ?, a = a, t= 1
(s + 1/2at^2) / t = v
v = s1 + a/2
Part two:
s = sn- s1, u = s1 + a/2, v = ?, a = a, t = n-1
(s - 1/2at^2)/t = u
((sn-s1) - a/2(n-1)^2) / (n-1) = u
As the final velocity of part one is the initial velocity of part two:
((sn-s1) - a/2(n-1)^2) / (n-1) = s1 + a/2
However, I can't seem to get the right answer from there?


"As the final velocity of part one is the initial velocity of part two:"

This is untrue. The final velocity for the first part will be the velocity at time t=1. This is not the same as the velocity at the start of the second interval. So, you can't use "v" to tie the two together.

Do you know what the answer is supposed to be?

The distance travelled in the first second is simply s1= u + a/2

What about the n'th second, the interval between t=n-1 and t=n (big hint)
Original post by ghostwalker
"As the final velocity of part one is the initial velocity of part two:"

This is untrue. The final velocity for the first part will be the velocity at time t=1. This is not the same as the velocity at the start of the second interval. So, you can't use "v" to tie the two together.

Do you know what the answer is supposed to be?

The distance travelled in the first second is simply s1= u + a/2

What about the n'th second, the interval between t=n-1 and t=n (big hint)

Sn = u + 1/2a(2n-1)
u = S1 - a/2
Sn = (sn - a/2) + 1/2a(2n-1)
Sn - S1 = -1/2a(1-(2n-1))
(-2Sn+2S1) / (-2n+2) = a
a = (Sn-S1)/(n-1)?
Original post by Anon134132523
Sn = u + 1/2a(2n-1)
u = S1 - a/2
Sn = (sn - a/2) + 1/2a(2n-1)
Sn - S1 = -1/2a(1-(2n-1))
(-2Sn+2S1) / (-2n+2) = a
a = (Sn-S1)/(n-1)?


That's what I got.
Original post by ghostwalker
That's what I got.

Thanks a lot man
Original post by Anon134132523
Thanks a lot man


np.

Don't forget the question asked for the force, not the accleration.
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Original post by Anon134132523
Sn = u + 1/2a(2n-1)
u = S1 - a/2
Sn = (sn - a/2) + 1/2a(2n-1)
Sn - S1 = -1/2a(1-(2n-1))
(-2Sn+2S1) / (-2n+2) = a
a = (Sn-S1)/(n-1)?


Hi, I’m struggling with the same question, but I don’t understand where the 2n-1 in the first line came from. Can someone pls explain this to me?

Thanks
Original post by D-Garg
Hi, I’m struggling with the same question, but I don’t understand where the 2n-1 in the first line came from. Can someone pls explain this to me?

Thanks


Sn is the distance travelled in the n'th second. This will equal the distance travelled in the first n seconds minus the distance travelled in the first n-1 seconds.

Edit: 'Tis better to have a go with your own working rather than trying to follow the abbreviated work of someone else.
(edited 1 year ago)

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