97% of young women have been sexually harassed in public places

I'm glad you both see my point, that is progress. Yes I'm saying it shouldn't be allowed. I'll tell you, every time a woman is approached at a bar it is more than annoyance that she feels, but fear. If I reject this person, will he be violent? Will he attack me? This is what goes through our heads every time this happens. Why should we have to feel terror several times a night when we just want to see our friends? Please bear this in mind. Thank you.

I'm glad you both see my point, that is progress. Yes I'm saying it shouldn't be allowed. I'll tell you, every time a woman is approached at a bar it is more than annoyance that she feels, but fear. If I reject this person, will he be violent? Will he attack me? This is what goes through our heads every time this happens. Why should we have to feel terror several times a night when we just want to see our friends? Please bear this in mind. Thank you.

Not surprised. Unfortunately to live as a woman in the UK is to live as a person under constant threat of assault, rape amd worse. This is patriarchy.

The replies in this thread are pretty disgusting. How dare some of you decide what is and what isn't sexual assault? Men will never know what it's like to be walking home alone at night and the sudden rush of dread as you see another man approach you from the other end of the street. Is he another rapist/murderer? Yes I know it's not all men, but it is enough men.

We need more men to start standing up for women and to stand up against men who are like this. Men, next time your friend makes a lewd 'joke' or comment about a woman, call them out on it! Make it known that this behaviour is NOT ok! Next time your friend wants to approach a woman at a bar, discourage them and remind them to NOT harass women. Men need to start taking responsibility for theirs and others actions. Stop victim blaming women!

How is being "stared at" sexual harassment?

I think women are going a bit OTT with what they class as sexual harassment, so no wonder the reported figure is so high..

Has anyone found the survey that reported 97% yet? Every single news outlet is reporting it but I can't find the actual survey results.

If you don't want guys to approach women any more, then you're really gonna need to put in a lot of work to change women's attitudes to dating, given how rarely they approach guys.

This sort of argument from that poster, to which we both still haven’t received replies back from reminds me of the F1 grid girls and the feminists. Feminists wanted them cancelled, F1 grid girls absolutely livid that their job was being cancelled and nothing they could do about it. In the end I believe the feminists won, and as a result many women ended up out of work. It’s the same argument here. One person saying she hates being approached and as a result, banning approaching for all women irrespective of what they think.

Of course one could cast aspersions here quite easily. It was a certain type of woman who managed to cancel the grid girls, and needless to say those women were nowhere near the same level. One could say it was possibly fuelled by jealously more than anything else. This Sarah Everard thing is basically now being hijacked by men haters. Anyone who’s not a halfwit can see that this is not a whole men issue, but if we’re accounting funny looks and staring as sexual harassment I fear there’s no way back.

This sort of argument from that poster, to which we both still haven’t received replies back from reminds me of the F1 grid girls and the feminists. Feminists wanted them cancelled, F1 grid girls absolutely livid that their job was being cancelled and nothing they could do about it. In the end I believe the feminists won, and as a result many women ended up out of work. It’s the same argument here. One person saying she hates being approached and as a result, banning approaching for all women irrespective of what they think.

Of course one could cast aspersions here quite easily. It was a certain type of woman who managed to cancel the grid girls, and needless to say those women were nowhere near the same level. One could say it was possibly fuelled by jealously more than anything else. This Sarah Everard thing is basically now being hijacked by men haters. Anyone who’s not a halfwit can see that this is not a whole men issue, but if we’re accounting funny looks and staring as sexual harassment I fear there’s no way back.

How is being "stared at" sexual harassment?

I think women are going a bit OTT with what they class as sexual harassment, so no wonder the reported figure is so high..

Tell me about it.

I mean by the definitions on that list me (a man) was apprently sexually harrased by women. Me and some friends were standing about eating some lunch while on break at uni when a group of girls who i didnt know who i suspect were also from our uni walked past and one slapped me on the bum and said “you have a nice arse” they then giggled as they walked away. I didnt consider it sexual harrasment at the time and just said "thanks" lol but maybe i should have gone for theraphy.

There are many more instances where ive been subject to something else on that list by a women, another example of the top of my head is when some drunk girl tried to kiss me at a party. Again i just put it down to drunk is as drunk does. My point is a lot of that stuff has happened to me and its trivial, its only when i actually think back after seeing a list like that do i realise how much i have been sexually harrased by women lol.

Edit - In fact just for the lols here is(off that list) ive had happen to me, most more than once. Its a wonder i dont have mental problems with all that sexual harrasment ive endured.

Cat called
stated at
followed
unwelcome touching
in person joke
been sent nudes i didnt ask for
had images taken without consent

I think a lot of what girls consider sexual harrassment now is nothing more than "attention from someone I consider unattractive." The kind of interactions that girls are happy to engage in with someone they see as high value. This is a silly and arbitrary metric to judge a persons behaviour.

I wonder if it's the side effect of the Tinder/Instagram generation being so used to being able to advertise themselves far and wide so easily and then neatly segregate all the virtual attention and conversations into only those people they are interested in. It's never been easier to disengage and dehumanise human connection.

In the real world though where men mostly shoulder the burden of rejection, a well-meaning, average looking guy will have to put himself out there and risk asking the question. For todays precious generation though, being approached at a bar, or flirting at work is considered harrassment because you can't left swipe them away with the same ease.

I think a lot of what girls consider sexual harrassment now is nothing more than "attention from someone I consider unattractive." The kind of interactions that girls are happy to engage in with someone they see as high value. This is a silly and arbitrary metric to judge a persons behaviour.

I wonder if it's the side effect of the Tinder/Instagram generation being so used to being able to advertise themselves far and wide so easily and then neatly segregate all the virtual attention and conversations into only those people they are interested in. It's never been easier to disengage and dehumanise human connection.

In the real world though where men mostly shoulder the burden of rejection, a well-meaning, average looking guy will have to put himself out there and risk asking the question. For todays precious generation though, being approached at a bar, or flirting at work is considered harrassment because you can't left swipe them away with the same ease.

I think a lot of what girls consider sexual harrassment now is nothing more than "attention from someone I consider unattractive." The kind of interactions that girls are happy to engage in with someone they see as high value. This is a silly and arbitrary metric to judge a persons behaviour.

I wonder if it's the side effect of the Tinder/Instagram generation being so used to being able to advertise themselves far and wide so easily and then neatly segregate all the virtual attention and conversations into only those people they are interested in. It's never been easier to disengage and dehumanise human connection.

In the real world, where men mostly shoulder the burden of rejection, a well-meaning, average looking guy will have to put himself out there and risk asking the question. For todays precious generation though, being approached at a bar, or flirting at work is considered harrassment because you can't left swipe them away with the same ease.

I think a lot of what girls consider sexual harrassment now is nothing more than "attention from someone I consider unattractive." The kind of interactions that girls are happy to engage in with someone they see as high value. This is a silly and arbitrary metric to judge a persons behaviour.

I wonder if it's the side effect of the Tinder/Instagram generation being so used to being able to advertise themselves far and wide so easily and then neatly segregate all the virtual attention and conversations into only those people they are interested in. It's never been easier to disengage and dehumanise human connection.

In the real world, where men mostly shoulder the burden of rejection, a well-meaning, average looking guy will have to put himself out there and risk asking the question. For todays precious generation though, being approached at a bar, or flirting at work is considered harrassment because you can't left swipe them away with the same ease.

Oh this brings me back to the 'dignity at work' brief we had at work that also made such a claim. Apparently looking at someone in a "suggestive way" (what the f*ck looking at someone in a "suggestive way" is supposed to mean is beyond me). Oh my, we had a field day with that one. We were making fun of that for weeks.

I'd wager that if you were attractive to said women, you'd get away with just about anything that'd otherwise be regarded as sexual harassment, not just looking at them.