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Poisson

Hey, for part a I put that there are only two possible outcomes, that a pixel is dead or not, and this occurs independently therefore the binomial would be appropriate. However they also occur randomly and at a uniform average rate of occurrence of 1 in 500,000, and seen as they are independent the poisson is suitable. Is this correct ? Also, for part b I did Lamda = 1 x 2304/500 , therefore P(X=4) = 0.187331 using general poisson formula. I used the cumulative function on my calculator for P(X>4), however I'm not at all sure how to do part c and d. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Reply 1
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The probability of at least 1 dead pixel is 1 - p(no dead pixels).
Reply 3
Original post by DFranklin
The probability of at least 1 dead pixel is 1 - p(no dead pixels).

so probability of finding one dead pixel is ( 1- ( 499,999/500,000)^n) ?
Original post by RLangdon569
so probability of finding one dead pixel is ( 1- ( 499,999/500,000)^n) ?

Ayup.
Reply 5
Original post by DFranklin
Ayup.

Hi
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Reply 7
for part d, I am trying to do (1-(4+k/52+k)) x ( 4+k/52+k) = 8/81
Original post by RLangdon569
for part d, I am trying to do (1-(4+k/52+k)) x ( 4+k/52+k) = 8/81


Agreed.

Rearrange to a quadratic, and solve.
Reply 9
Original post by ghostwalker
Agreed.

Rearrange to a quadratic, and solve.

I tried that but I seem to get non-integer answers.
Original post by RLangdon569
I tried that but I seem to get non-integer answers.

48/(52+k) x 4+k/52+k = 8/81.

192+48k = 8/81 x ( k^2 + 104k + 2704)

K^2 - 868k + 760 = 0
Original post by RLangdon569
for part d, I am trying to do (1-(4+k/52+k)) x ( 4+k/52+k) = 8/81

I know this is like King Canute trying to roll back the tide, but what you've just written is actually completely wrong, because

(4+k/52+k) is the same as (4+k52+k)(4+\frac{k}{52} + k) (remember division has higher precendence than addition).

What you meant is (4+k)/(52+k), which equals 4+k52+k\dfrac{4+k}{52+k}.

[To be clear, ghostwalker knows this: we're just all so used to people doing this wrong that we correct for it. The forum guidelines actually state that you should do this correctly - it just often feels like a lost cause).
Original post by RLangdon569
48/(52+k) x 4+k/52+k = 8/81.

192+48k = 8/81 x ( k^2 + 104k + 2704)

K^2 - 868k + 760 = 0


In red's in error - have another go.
Original post by ghostwalker
In red's in error - have another go.

Got it! Thank you . k=2 or 380
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Original post by RLangdon569
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To check, do I use lamda = 2304/500 for the poisson in this question ?
Original post by RLangdon569
Got it! Thank you . k=2 or 380


Agreed.

Do take on board DFranklin's comments in post #12. Aside from being wrong, it's confusing from the helper's point of view, though I know what you meant in this case. But also, if what you're thinking and what you're writing are not consistent with each other, it can easily become a source of confusion for yourself, without you even realising it.
Original post by ghostwalker
Agreed.

Do take on board DFranklin's comments in post #12. Aside from being wrong, it's confusing from the helper's point of view, though I know what you meant in this case. But also, if what you're thinking and what you're writing are not consistent with each other, it can easily become a source of confusion for yourself, without you even realising it.


Definitely, it will not happen in the future. Thank you both for all of your help!
Original post by RLangdon569
To check, do I use lamda = 2304/500 for the poisson in this question ?

I am just now doubting myself a bit :smile:
I have used lamda=2304/500 to calculate both of the probability in part b

Original post by ghostwalker
Agreed.

Do take on board DFranklin's comments in post #12. Aside from being wrong, it's confusing from the helper's point of view, though I know what you meant in this case. But also, if what you're thinking and what you're writing are not consistent with each other, it can easily become a source of confusion for yourself, without you even realising it.
Original post by RLangdon569
I have used lamda=2304/500 to calculate both of the probability in part b


Agreed.

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