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Hi! I recently received offers from these unis and I am struggling to decide which one to firm.

I want to study mathematics or statistics at uni, but KCL's London advantage and city life are stopping me from firming Warwick.

I'm hoping to work in quantitative finance or data science so Warwick is obviously better in terms of the course. Although KCL Econ isn't good for quant finance, it can still lead to data science by pursuing a masters degree.

It will be appreciated if you guys could suggest some opinions on this.

Many thanks.
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Go to the school you want and will enjoy the most (this includes the degree itself). If you want to maximise your chances of breaking into IB through undergrad then go warwick. Quant finance? Unsure what you mean but i think you either mean quant trading/research or prop trading..? depending on that answer the advice would be different.
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ok did some asking around, in terms of prop trading (which is by in large the highest paid job out of undergraduate and is very similar to/is quant finance) MORSE at Warwick is the only go to. Economics (especially at KCL) just will not be good enough to get past CV screens for insight weeks and then internships. Meanwhile an incoming trader at JS does MORSE at WW
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Definitely definitely definitely pick MORSE over kings Econ, it's not even close
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ok did some asking around, in terms of prop trading (which is by in large the highest paid job out of undergraduate and is very similar to/is quant finance) MORSE at Warwick is the only go to. Economics (especially at KCL) just will not be good enough to get past CV screens for insight weeks and then internships. Meanwhile an incoming trader at JS does MORSE at WW
Thank you very much for your reply! If Warwick leads me to where I want to work, I think I will firm Warwick!

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Definitely definitely definitely pick MORSE over kings Econ, it's not even close
Thank you for your advice!
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The KCL economics course is about 4 years old. MORSE is one of Warwick's flagship degrees that has been running since the 70s. Warwick has one of the most heavily recruited maths departments and business schools in the UK. The KCL course is spun out from it's departments of political economy and management (which is I understand generally considered "semi-target" at best). If you want to go into finance/banking roles this seems like an open and shut case, especially as you indicated you wanted to actually study maths/stats at uni and not economics.
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The KCL economics course is about 4 years old. MORSE is one of Warwick's flagship degrees that has been running since the 70s. Warwick has one of the most heavily recruited maths departments and business schools in the UK. The KCL course is spun out from it's departments of political economy and management (which is I understand generally considered "semi-target" at best). If you want to go into finance/banking roles this seems like an open and shut case, especially as you indicated you wanted to actually study maths/stats at uni and not economics.
i mean if they want to do quant they sorta have to pick MORSE since economics isn't an accepted discipline for prop trading ahahah. Not sure why this qs was asked
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Pick KCL, Warwick and MORSE are not well known by recruiters. After do an MSc.
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Pick KCL, Warwick and MORSE are not well known by recruiters. After do an MSc.
This is amusing. Saying king's is better known in the finance and maths world than Warwick? OP I wouldn't place too much weight on this person's opinion
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This is amusing. Saying king's is better known in the finance and maths world than Warwick? OP I wouldn't place too much weight on this person's opinion
Other than MORSE what is Warwick known for? Tell please?
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Other than MORSE what is Warwick known for? Tell please?
maths-related courses and econ-related courses tend to come to mind for me
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maths-related courses and econ-related courses tend to come to mind for me
Exactly lol, Warwick places at least in the top 5 UK institutions for both maths and economics, king's doesn't for either.
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maths-related courses and econ-related courses tend to come to mind for me
So the entire reputation of Warwick depends on 3-4 overrated/mediocre courses according to you? Lool ok mate. I have checked the modules taught in MORSE and its your typical finance and econ modules taught at every other uni.
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So the entire reputation of Warwick depends on 3-4 overrated/mediocre courses according to you? Lool ok mate. I have checked the modules taught in MORSE and its your typical finance and econ modules taught at every other uni.
Stop being moronic, aside from quant (which king's would never break into anyway) the specific reputation of departments is irrelevant for high finance/investment banking. Warwick criminally doesn't have a great reputation in the eyes of the general public but does for top finance hence being a target school where they recruit heavily from. King's is not a target, but a semi-target so is worse than Warwick if OP wants to work in high finance. It doesn't matter what the degree is, they could study BSc Turkey Stuffing with Yiddish from Warwick and still break in if they did all the other stuff required. Ceteris paribus, King's for something like PPE would be worse than any Warwick degree even if its less known (for high finance).

MORSE, btw, is known by virtually all people working in finance and especially by those working in quantitative finance where they actively recruit people from that course and care about the course itself. For example, a MORSE applicant from warwick would be miles more competitive than a Law applicant from Oxbridge. King's does have a better reputation amongst employers in big law though. OP has not indicated they care about that.
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(Original post by Levi.-)
Stop being moronic, aside from quant (which king's would never break into anyway) the specific reputation of departments is irrelevant for high finance/investment banking. Warwick criminally doesn't have a great reputation in the eyes of the general public but does for top finance hence being a target school where they recruit heavily from. King's is not a target, but a semi-target so is worse than Warwick if OP wants to work in high finance. It doesn't matter what the degree is, they could study BSc Turkey Stuffing with Yiddish from Warwick and still break in if they did all the other stuff required. Ceteris paribus, King's for something like PPE would be worse than any Warwick degree even if its less known (for high finance).

MORSE, btw, is known by virtually all people working in finance and especially by those working in quantitative finance where they actively recruit people from that course and care about the course itself. For example, a MORSE applicant from warwick would be miles more competitive than a Law applicant from Oxbridge. King's does have a better reputation amongst employers in big law though. OP has not indicated they care about that.
Lol you are silly mate. There is a reason why international students go to KCL over Warwick.
For literally every course. Like I said the MORSE degree is nothing special.
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So the entire reputation of Warwick depends on 3-4 overrated/mediocre courses according to you? Lool ok mate. I have checked the modules taught in MORSE and its your typical finance and econ modules taught at every other uni.
But the subject reputation is more important and for econ and maths-related subjects, Warwick exceeds KCL without a doubt. Shouldn't OP just base their decision on that rather than looking at the overall reputation?
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But the subject reputation is more important and for econ and maths-related subjects, Warwick exceeds KCL without a doubt. Shouldn't OP just base their decision on that rather than looking at the overall reputation?
yes/no. For investment banking/high finance the university matters more and warwick is a target whereas KCL isnt.
For quantitative finance which OP wants to do then both matter and warwick MORSE has a track record for getting people into that field. Economics isn't a good enough degree, even from oxbridge so definitely not from KCL lol
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Lol you are silly mate. There is a reason why international students go to KCL over Warwick.
For literally every course. Like I said the MORSE degree is nothing special.
lol so we base our rankings over where internationals go now? Utterly silly thing to say, they go there for multiple reasons. I agree outside the UK KCL (london in general is sought after by many internationals so they chose QMUL over Warwick which is equally silly) has the better reputation but for the specific field OP wants to go into then Warwick is the go to. KCL just isn't as good as warwick for investment banking/high finance and just isn't good generally for quantitative finance.
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yes/no. For investment banking/high finance the university matters more and warwick is a target whereas KCL isnt.
For quantitative finance which OP wants to do then both matter and warwick MORSE has a track record for getting people into that field. Economics isn't a good enough degree, even from oxbridge so definitely not from KCL lol
Yup, which is why they should firm Warwick. The user above is trying to downplay Warwick by saying it only specialises in 3-4 courses, but it would be perfect for OP and that's more important rather than looking at the international rep.
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Yup, which is why they should firm Warwick. The user above is trying to downplay Warwick by saying it only specialises in 3-4 courses, but it would be perfect for OP and that's more important rather than looking at the international rep.
ngl warwick has some awful degrees but they could study the worst degree at warwick and still have a better shot than the most respected degree at KCL for investment banking. That's just how it works.
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