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How do you do a PhD in biological sciences?

I'm in year 12 of A-levels and I really want to do a PhD in university but I'm really confused on what to do I've watched and researched a lot but I'm still not sure like if I do a bachelors degree do I spend an extra year doing masters in the same school or look for another school doing masters?

Then after I finish doing that what do I do next, I've heard doing research on a project or something but how do you find a project? Do you do it at the same university or can you go to another university? Sorry for the questions I am just very curious you can add any advice or tips too

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GCSEs -> A levels -> BSc -> MSc -> PhD

You don't have to do an MSc but there are very few people who go straight from BSc to PhD. You're not tied to any university, you can go wherever for your MSc and PhD. Most people find their PhDs through advertisements online, usually through findaphd.com.
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Original post by Vinilla
I'm in year 12 of A-levels and I really want to do a PhD in university but I'm really confused on what to do I've watched and researched a lot but I'm still not sure like if I do a bachelors degree do I spend an extra year doing masters in the same school or look for another school doing masters?

Then after I finish doing that what do I do next, I've heard doing research on a project or something but how do you find a project? Do you do it at the same university or can you go to another university? Sorry for the questions I am just very curious you can add any advice or tips too

Hi,
You don't need to do a master's degree after a bachelor's to progress onto a PhD, I know many people who jumped straight from BSc to PhD. You can choose to do a master's degree if you want but there are also 4 year PhDs that incorporate a 1 year MRes/MPhil degree before you upgrade to the PhD stage. The master's degree can be done at whichever institution you want to and you can apply straight to PhD programmes at universities/institutions or you can get in contact with the PIs of specific labs/fields you're interested in and see whether they might be accepting PhDs or will be looking for funding for a PhD candidate.
Nobody seems to have picked up on this but "How do you do a PhD in Biological Sciences", you don't.

A PhD targets a narrow area in vast depth. Your PhD will often be based around a certain study.
Original post by Vinilla
I'm in year 12 of A-levels and I really want to do a PhD in university but I'm really confused on what to do I've watched and researched a lot but I'm still not sure like if I do a bachelors degree do I spend an extra year doing masters in the same school or look for another school doing masters?

Then after I finish doing that what do I do next, I've heard doing research on a project or something but how do you find a project? Do you do it at the same university or can you go to another university? Sorry for the questions I am just very curious you can add any advice or tips too

Don’t worry about this, just follow your interests, if you are interested in research then try and get an internship after your first or second year at university. If you enjoy it, then you can dig a little deeper (also at university you’ll meet professors etc. Who can fill you in on how you find a PhD.
Original post by Vinilla
I'm in year 12 of A-levels and I really want to do a PhD in university but I'm really confused on what to do I've watched and researched a lot but I'm still not sure like if I do a bachelors degree do I spend an extra year doing masters in the same school or look for another school doing masters?

Then after I finish doing that what do I do next, I've heard doing research on a project or something but how do you find a project? Do you do it at the same university or can you go to another university? Sorry for the questions I am just very curious you can add any advice or tips too

I would definitely agree with the previous poster! I'm applying for PhDs starting in September and honestly I only really found out the ins and outs of how it works these past few months. Pick the uni and course you like for undergrad and go from there! You'll get a feel for lab work, and like others have suggested, you can get lab internships throughout your time at university (I'm currently on one now!).

Don't worry about the process now, enjoy your time as an undergrad but the basics are what others have said. A BSc (Undergrad) then optional masters (MSc) study then a PhD if you are interested in still doing one. This is done by applying directly to uni courses OR directly asking a person/lab, usually by responding to ads on findaphd. PhDs know you are young and are unlikely to have much research experience beyond the projects you do in the final year of your undergrad and potentially your masters so don't worry too much if you haven't been able to work on other projects/get internships but they do help!

Oh and you're not tied to a single university for any of this. You can have a different uni for your bachelors, masters, and PhD.

Hope that's somewhat helped you out, the big message being, don't stress about the details now! You have plenty of time.
Original post by mnot
Don’t worry about this, just follow your interests, if you are interested in research then try and get an internship after your first or second year at university. If you enjoy it, then you can dig a little deeper (also at university you’ll meet professors etc. Who can fill you in on how you find a PhD.


Hi guys,

I have ADHD, and holding 2.2 in BSc "Biomedical science" and Pass in MSc "Immunology and Immunotherapy". Does anyone know which university consider such application please?
Thanks in advance
Original post by sohpie1976
Hi guys,

I have ADHD, and holding 2.2 in BSc "Biomedical science" and Pass in MSc "Immunology and Immunotherapy". Does anyone know which university consider such application please?
Thanks in advance

In all honesty with these grades I think you’ll struggle to secure a PhD, and certainly not a funded application. Plenty of candidates have 1st & distinctions so I think it would be hard to look competitive. I also suspect most universities minimum grades may be an issue.
Original post by mnot
In all honesty with these grades I think you’ll struggle to secure a PhD, and certainly not a funded application. Plenty of candidates have 1st & distinctions so I think it would be hard to look competitive. I also suspect most universities minimum grades may be an issue.

Thank you, I don't mind for self-funded application though
Original post by sohpie1976
Thank you, I don't mind for self-funded application though

Tbh I think you’ll struggle for this as well, you certainly have more of a chance but it will still be difficult and you’ll need to put in a lot of research into finding opportunities.

I know at my institution the PhD requirements are a 1st at undergrad or merit at masters.
Original post by mnot
Tbh I think you’ll struggle for this as well, you certainly have more of a chance but it will still be difficult and you’ll need to put in a lot of research into finding opportunities.

I know at my institution the PhD requirements are a 1st at undergrad or merit at masters.

What would you recommend me?
Original post by sohpie1976
What would you recommend me?

Well it’s kind of how determined you are for a PhD.

If your willing to spend a significant amount of time researching lots of universities requirements and following up with potential supervisors about if they’ll consider you.

Also their is more to a PhD application then just grades, how you’ve performed on your dissertations, any research experience you have or knowledge in the niche you want to pursue also are part of the picture.

It’s not going to be easy though with your grades, so you have to be ready to accept rejections. I think you’ll struggle to find a place but that’s not saying you wont...
Original post by mnot
Well it’s kind of how determined you are for a PhD.

If your willing to spend a significant amount of time researching lots of universities requirements and following up with potential supervisors about if they’ll consider you.

Also their is more to a PhD application then just grades, how you’ve performed on your dissertations, any research experience you have or knowledge in the niche you want to pursue also are part of the picture.

It’s not going to be easy though with your grades, so you have to be ready to accept rejections. I think you’ll struggle to find a place but that’s not saying you wont...

I know it would be complicated but I have decided to try my best. What universities would you recommend me for applying?
Original post by sohpie1976
I know it would be complicated but I have decided to try my best. What universities would you recommend me for applying?

You’ll need to research these yourself, as it will be specific to your area of research interests.
Original post by mnot
You’ll need to research these yourself, as it will be specific to your area of research interests.

Many thanks :smile:
Original post by yeahthatonethere
I would definitely agree with the previous poster! I'm applying for PhDs starting in September and honestly I only really found out the ins and outs of how it works these past few months. Pick the uni and course you like for undergrad and go from there! You'll get a feel for lab work, and like others have suggested, you can get lab internships throughout your time at university (I'm currently on one now!).

Don't worry about the process now, enjoy your time as an undergrad but the basics are what others have said. A BSc (Undergrad) then optional masters (MSc) study then a PhD if you are interested in still doing one. This is done by applying directly to uni courses OR directly asking a person/lab, usually by responding to ads on findaphd. PhDs know you are young and are unlikely to have much research experience beyond the projects you do in the final year of your undergrad and potentially your masters so don't worry too much if you haven't been able to work on other projects/get internships but they do help!

Oh and you're not tied to a single university for any of this. You can have a different uni for your bachelors, masters, and PhD.

Hope that's somewhat helped you out, the big message being, don't stress about the details now! You have plenty of time.

How do you get a research internship? I’m guessing it’s quite competitive do you have any tips and advice on how to secure one, thank you
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Original post by sohpie1976
Hi guys,

I have ADHD, and holding 2.2 in BSc "Biomedical science" and Pass in MSc "Immunology and Immunotherapy". Does anyone know which university consider such application please?
Thanks in advance


Original post by sohpie1976
What would you recommend me?


You aren't going to get a PhD offer with that academic profile i'm afraid, no university is going to waste a position based on those grades. The ADHD is irrelevant. You should try and get a job in your industry and see where your career takes you. It's possible that in 10 or so years time, you become specialised enough and involved enough in a particular field of research that a PhD based on professional experience is possible, and at that point you may have a company that will sponsor you.
Original post by sohpie1976
Hi guys,

I have ADHD, and holding 2.2 in BSc "Biomedical science" and Pass in MSc "Immunology and Immunotherapy". Does anyone know which university consider such application please?
Thanks in advance

You might have better luck looking for a research/lab assistant post in a research group first. You'd have more of a chance of making a good impression with a PI and then if they're happy with your work and think you have the right skills for a PhD help you get funding for a PhD in their lab.
Original post by medicphd
You might have better luck looking for a research/lab assistant post in a research group first. You'd have more of a chance of making a good impression with a PI and then if they're happy with your work and think you have the right skills for a PhD help you get funding for a PhD in their lab.

Thank you. What kind of labs?
Original post by sohpie1976
Thank you. What kind of labs?

Any research lab that works in an area you're interested in. Labs will often advertise for BSc/MSc level positions, usually as technicians, lab assistants, scientific officers etc.

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