Thoughts on German election 2021

Shame, the CDU isn't great, either.

I think this matches the trend we also saw in Norway where "moderate" centre left parties can win but only by working together with more radical parties such as Greens, socialists and Even separatists.

Just be grateful they didn't vote in another Hitler.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_German_federal_election

We now have the results for the election of the largest economy and possible driving force in the EU. It's very interesting.

Germany's long governing chancellor Angela Merkel is retiring and her party has come second to the former junior coalition partner the SDP. Interestingly neither party did actually well considering they both pulled around 25% each.

I think this matches the trend we also saw in Norway where "moderate" centre left parties can win but only by working together with more radical parties such as Greens, socialists and Even separatists.

The current trend across European elections is that the rise of the populist right has stagnated and even starting to fall back in some places, while the centre left makes modest recoveries.

A country with PR like Germany that had let in hundreds of thousands of refugees/asylum seekers should have been ripe for a populist right party to advance. But they aren't. Which is great.

Don't have much of an opinion on it, but it's been interesting to watch how public opinion has changed over the last year. If this election took place at the start of the pandemic then the Union would have won by a landslide. It seems like Merkel's replacement is just extremely unpopular, hence why German politics have shifted leftwards. We can only speculate on what the next coalition will be like. 🤔

It's actually crazy how tumultuous the polling has been ...

I think the obvious coalition would be a red green one which which will be one of the weakest in modern German history.

Not so sure about that.

We have parties in power in Poland and Hungary, we are doing very well in Italy and also Spain and Sweden and some smaller countries eg Finland and Estonia. Le Pen is still the main opposition in France.

Whilst the AfD result was disappointing it was hardly surprising and they still have 80 MPs- who o would probably trade for our entire Conservative party. That said I do think Germany is for historical reasons probably a lost cause, at least for now. Indoctrination and self hatred can only go so far.

The populist right were also on the retreat in Netherlands and Norway.

There are now centre left parties in power in Spain, Portugal, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway and soon to be Germany. It's a long long way back from the dominance of the 90s and early noughties but there are patches of recovery, though admittedly uneven.

The populist right were also on the retreat in Netherlands and Norway.

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In Denmark and Austria, too.

Spain's not doing so well for the left- Podemos has collapsed and Vox (my favourite European party) is comfortably third in the polls and will probably be in the next right wing government.

Portugal (and Ireland) have never really had a right wing populist movement. Finlands second largest party is populist right and is doing well. A lot of these places like Sweden are having to have five party coalitions to keep out right wing populists. I'll give you Norway though at least to some extent (I'm not sure the progress party can be described accurately as RW populists(

Netherlands right wing populist party Forum for Democracy tripled their vote iirc.


True but interestingly this could largely be attributed to the mainstream parties there adopting tough immigration policies (,the Danish labour party and Austrian Peoples party respectively).

So it could be argued that tondo extent RW populism has been very successful there


Also by the way I'm being honest here I'm not trying to propagate anything.

Bolsorano isn't doing too well. Looks set to pose next election.

Brazil isn't in Europe.

But yeah. Hopefully Bolsonaro will show Orange Man how it's done...