Glastonbury Festival: Traces of drugs found in river at site

Is it turning the frogs gay?

On a more serious note the "war on drugs" has been an abject failure, started with the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 by the Tories, naturally. It costs billions a year and achieves nothing, basically like the current government.

Some poor fool is going to end up in A&E with an actual or anxiety of a river water related disease as a consequence of that news article being published.

Just imagine the swimmers downstream, lucky or unlucky depending on your perspective, in getting a free dose of the aforementioned cocktail

The whole thing is an environmental disaster, the scenes of litter afterwards are awful. You would think they would care more about that considering it is mainly frequented by so called 'hippies'

Is it turning the frogs gay?

Rather shows just how spectacularly the war on drugs has failed if people at said festival are consuming so much that it results in these findings though...

I don't think there's actually been a "war" on drugs in the UK so to speak. Peter Hitchens wrote a book on it called something like the War that never was" or something which showed that it's never really been taken that seriously.

I am actually mildly supportive of the current system- and I say this as someone that has used drugs before.

I think it's a reasonable compromise between personal liberty and wider Society. If it's so easy to get hold of then why are people complaining? It's easy to illegally download films but few people are calking for an end to licensing) copyright for Instance...

If you can't get hold of drugs- A: that's probably a good thing , B: You're probably the sort of person that shouldn't be doing drugs.

Lastly the police don't kick down your house door and throw you in jail for smoking a joint. It's basically used as a pretext for putting away the repeat offenders and detritus of society.

I don't think there's actually been a "war" on drugs in the UK so to speak. Peter Hitchens wrote a book on it called something like the War that never was" or something which showed that it's never really been taken that seriously.

I am actually mildly supportive of the current system- and I say this as someone that has used drugs before.

I think it's a reasonable compromise between personal liberty and wider Society. If it's so easy to get hold of then why are people complaining? It's easy to illegally download films but few people are calking for an end to licensing) copyright for Instance...

If you can't get hold of drugs- A: that's probably a good thing , B: You're probably the sort of person that shouldn't be doing drugs.

Lastly the police don't kick down your house door and throw you in jail for smoking a joint. It's basically used as a pretext for putting away the repeat offenders and detritus of society.

I would disagree, whilst its not as vitriolic as America we are still a part of the war on drugs and it has been a feature of successive governments ill informed policies for years now, take the PSA, a ridiculous piece of law if ever there was one.

Which aspect of the current system? I mean in theory the ABC classification is a good way of demonstrating whats harmful and isnt but the problem is the government has expressly ignored the scientific advice on it and started lobbing random drugs into random categories based on political expediency.

People complain because a criminal record for it, jail or not, will ruin said persons life for no particular benefit to anyone else. Be it weed or heroin, arresting and possibly jailing someone for it merely worsens the problem or punishes innocent fun (depending on the substance in question)

I'm not sure what the next paragraph means?

No they wont, they might well do it for someone whose addicted to harder drugs though. In which caser its a medical problem that should be treated, not have them tossed in jail to worsen their habit (or likely pick up new ones). As for detritus, i would point out that those addicted to hard drugs, the ones we're talking about who get jailed, tend to be the ones who've suffered unimaginable harm in their lives from being raped as children, homeless etc. etc. drugs being an excellent coping mechanism for that, no to mention the only option for some where the system has categorically failed them otherwise.

Long and the short of it being the system is broken and doesnt seek to prevent drug use, merely penalise those who use them and simply because its an easy sector of society to clobber when pandering to the masses. Approve of drugs or not, the current means of dealing with them is inhumane in every regard and helps no one be it addict's or those who are victims of drug related crime.

I just looked up the PSA and saw that it was done by the Maybot so little wonder it's crap - how that useless bint ended up anyway near power is really quite something.

Well basically that drugs are illegal but that it's not really enforced. I think it's a reasonable medium.

See my last point - I think that the people who get arrested for it will almost certainly be arrested for something else in the long run , sob story or not I think it's better to get these people off the streets before they do so.

Piracy is widespread yet do you think we should abolish piracy/ copyright laws?

Theoretically if it was proven via cost benefit analysis that these were cheaper and more effective than the current system then it may be a good idea however -We have to have a police force. We don't have to have a drug rehabilitation centre.

I dont know, i'd say they're enforced pretty well. Weed may or may not be tolerated depending on the cop you encounter but if tey find you wit much else theyll book you.

As in by dint of doing drugs theyre a career criminal do you mean? Assuming that were true, something i would respectfully dsagree wi given how many peop[le do drugs, giving someone a record/jail is a surefire way of making them a criminal as theyre unemployable after that.. After all, if someones been to jail, for anyting, theyre almost effectively barred from any meaningful kind of work - its hard, on a moral level, to then fault them for committing crime to get by when the state is the one stopping them from being employed gainfully and legally.