Nobel Prize: We will not have gender or ethnicity quotas - top scientist

He has a good point, why o0n earth would having genda quotas be of any good here? By all means more women need to be represented in the sciences but that is a problem for the schools and universities. Giving nobel prizes, especially ones that havent been corrupted like the peace prize, to people simply because theyre female, as opposed to male, seems ridiculous. The whole point of the prize is to reward outstanding work in the sciences not to pander to peoples genitals. So long as its not being actively biassed towards men, where there is nothing to say it is, i see no issue with the current way its awarded..

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Oh they will do most certainly unless there is a significant change in culture soon.

The politicalisation of science as we have discussed on numerous cases. And the influence of politics in every aspect of life.

Was that a question???

Nope. I obviously agree with you that gender and ethnicity quotas would be the case unless something dramatic happens or a change in culture. The political correctness and certain politics seem to be everywhere and influence everything.

He has a good point, why o0n earth would having genda quotas be of any good here? By all means more women need to be represented in the sciences but that is a problem for the schools and universities. Giving nobel prizes, especially ones that havent been corrupted like the peace prize, to people simply because theyre female, as opposed to male, seems ridiculous. The whole point of the prize is to reward outstanding work in the sciences not to pander to peoples genitals. So long as its not being actively biassed towards men, where there is nothing to say it is, i see no issue with the current way its awarded..

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58875152

Why is it a problem for schools?

Where do you think people chose to persue their caREERS, IN THIS CASE THE SCIENCES? iF THERE IS A LACK OF WOMEN IN THE SCIENCES IT EVIDENTLY BEGINS THERE...

Firstly I assume the caps lock was an error because those block capitals are not necessary.

I'd find it hard to lay all the blame in schools when it's exam boards that set the curriculum at KS4. So the GCSE syllabuses that elevate Darwin, Jenner, Newton, perhaps should also celebrate female scientists. Though I do recall learning about Rosalind Franklin and Jane Goodall too.

I would also raise the point that a child's perception of the scientific industry is not formed in school but in exposure from the media. Stories about scientific breakthroughs and discoveries need to feature women for young girls to believe that women are the people that do science. One of the most coveree scientific news stories is the winner of the Nobel prizes.

So sure, there is a role for schools to play in this. But you cannot lay the blame entirely at the door of schools here.

Firstly I assume the caps lock was an error because those block capitals are not necessary.

I'd find it hard to lay all the blame in schools when it's exam boards that set the curriculum at KS4. So the GCSE syllabuses that elevate Darwin, Jenner, Newton, perhaps should also celebrate female scientists. Though I do recall learning about Rosalind Franklin and Jane Goodall too.

I would also raise the point that a child's perception of the scientific industry is not formed in school but in exposure from the media. Stories about scientific breakthroughs and discoveries need to feature women for young girls to believe that women are the people that do science. One of the most coveree scientific news stories is the winner of the Nobel prizes.

So sure, there is a role for schools to play in this. But you cannot lay the blame entirely at the door of schools here.

Surely, the 75% of teachers in schools that are women could point these young girls towards science, or are you willing to overlook that gender statistic in order to get your point across? We shouldn’t have to actively promote women or men. As always, the best person for the job; or the most successful should be celebrated, not based on gender or race.

Only if it can be accommodated by the scheme of work agreed by Headteachers (64%).

I agree, we shouldn't have to live in a world where we need to actively promote groups of people to tackle prejudice. Hopefully the prejudice will go soon enough so that the practice ends.

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If you go to London let's say and visit Imperial College and specifically the Department of Physics. It won't take you long to realise that vast majority of students are staff are male. A simple observation it's all it takes if you spend just one day going around the Department and possibly attend some lectures. There are women in the Department but far less than men.

Do you think in this case there is some prejudice against women or something else is going on?

Possibly the question I am asking has already been answered partially by others here.

One comment here.
If you go to London let's say and visit Imperial College and specifically the Department of Physics. It won't take you long to realise that vast majority of students are staff are male. A simple observation it's all it takes if you spend just one day going around the Department and possibly attend some lectures. There are women in the Department but far less than men.

Do you think in this case there is some prejudice against women or something else is going on?

Possibly the question I am asking has already been answered partially by others here.

And if you wander round the vast majority of state schools the staff will be made up almost entirely of women. What’s your point? I don’t have an issue with that.

There might be prejudice involved, I don't know. I'd say this is the result of several overlapping things "going on".
I do know that physics on the whole is one of the worst for gender balances. The law of probability at the moment is that the majority of secondary phase science teachers are female and specialise in Biology.

There is literally no prejudice involved. Females are often more emotional than males, so females are more likely to peruse fields that are based more on emotions such as the humanities.
If a woman wants to be a writer let her, if a woman wants to be an astronaut let her. There is no need to crush other people's dreams just to fill in woke agendas.