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Original post by JasK0101
Hi! I was just wondering, from when applications open how long do we have to complete it and roughly when is the close date?
Thank you :smile:

Hey! Last year the applications opened on Monday 25 January 2021 at 11:00am and closed on Monday 22 February 2021 at 4:00pm. I'm pretty sure that the list of available specialisms by locations should be released soon though, maybe in the next couple of weeks?
Does anyone have any info on exactly through where we need to do the SJT ? Is there an external provider like UCAT or does the STP application redirects you to do one once you submit the application ?
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Original post by srasaily
Does anyone have any info on exactly through where we need to do the SJT ? Is there an external provider like UCAT or does the STP application redirects you to do one once you submit the application ?

Is there definitely SJT's this year as they had issues last year and had to cancel them I think? Does it say somewhere that they will go ahead this year?
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Hello, I have recently finished my PhD (viva pending) and am also interested in applying to the STP. Any advice for prospective applicants?
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Original post by HealthcareSci
Sure! Always happy to chat to potential applicants. :smile: Will send you a message.

Hi, would it be okay to have a chat with you about this too?
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Hi, would it be okay to have a chat with you about this too?

Sure! Drop me a message and we'll organise a time.
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Sure! Drop me a message and we'll organise a time.

I'm currently unable to send direct messages! I think I have to wait another day maybe?
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Open 25th Jan and close roughly a month later it seems :smile:
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Open 25th Jan and close roughly a month later it seems :smile:


Thank you so much becky !
Applying this year for the 3rd time. I love everything about what the STP offers but I have become extremely skeptical about the entry requirements. They say that they desire A, B and C but only ever go for people with X Y and Z. External applicants have an extremely low chance of being offered even an interview. Secretly is seems that the school favors a PhD even though they state that clinical experience is desirable. If that's what they want then fair enough but at least be honest about it and don't mislead 100's of people into a very slow and painful application process where they are doomed to fall short. Rant over. Good luck everyone.
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Original post by BioChinga
Applying this year for the 3rd time. I love everything about what the STP offers but I have become extremely skeptical about the entry requirements. They say that they desire A, B and C but only ever go for people with X Y and Z. External applicants have an extremely low chance of being offered even an interview. Secretly is seems that the school favors a PhD even though they state that clinical experience is desirable. If that's what they want then fair enough but at least be honest about it and don't mislead 100's of people into a very slow and painful application process where they are doomed to fall short. Rant over. Good luck everyone.

It seems to be so hard to work out what they want, can anyone who did gain a place or know people that did let us know what experience and qualifications they had? I feel frustrated that the NHS must need so many clinical scientists but there are so few places, I am interested in audiology - everyone has ears 😄! I just want the clinical scientist post rather than straight adult audiology or hearing aid audiologist etc, there seems to be so few ways (I couldn’t do equivalence or anything).
Original post by BioChinga
Applying this year for the 3rd time. I love everything about what the STP offers but I have become extremely skeptical about the entry requirements. They say that they desire A, B and C but only ever go for people with X Y and Z. External applicants have an extremely low chance of being offered even an interview. Secretly is seems that the school favors a PhD even though they state that clinical experience is desirable. If that's what they want then fair enough but at least be honest about it and don't mislead 100's of people into a very slow and painful application process where they are doomed to fall short. Rant over. Good luck everyone.

I was shortlisted for two specialisms for the STP (you used to be able to apply for two) and I don't have a PhD.

Lots of people get onto the STP without one.

And it isn't unusual to apply multiple times. Do you have any work experience?
Original post by HealthcareSci
I was shortlisted for two specialisms for the STP (you used to be able to apply for two) and I don't have a PhD.

Lots of people get onto the STP without one.

And it isn't unusual to apply multiple times. Do you have any work experience?

6 years experience as a BMS + 2 teaching at university. I apply for Micro as that's my specialism (although I am aware that it is one of the most competitive STP specialisms). Last year on the discord channel all the successful applicants for Micro seemed had a PhD besides 1. Specialisms must differ in their criteria.

I'm very aware of how bitter I sound, because I am. I just feel like each application process I don't actually learn anything about what I'm missing due to the lack of feedback.
Original post by BeckySS
It seems to be so hard to work out what they want, can anyone who did gain a place or know people that did let us know what experience and qualifications they had? I feel frustrated that the NHS must need so many clinical scientists but there are so few places, I am interested in audiology - everyone has ears 😄! I just want the clinical scientist post rather than straight adult audiology or hearing aid audiologist etc, there seems to be so few ways (I couldn’t do equivalence or anything).

Currently, there is a HUGE shortage of Biomedical Scientists in UK if you fancy going down that route for a bit to get experience. Those jobs are mostly in pathology though (Biochem, Haematology, Microbiology etc).
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Original post by BioChinga
Currently, there is a HUGE shortage of Biomedical Scientists in UK if you fancy going down that route for a bit to get experience. Those jobs are mostly in pathology though (Biochem, Haematology, Microbiology etc).

Thank you, Coincidently- I did a Biomedical degree but wasn’t really into the path labs, so did a PhD and am just trying to get an entry level role in a neurosensory dept at the moment, I got the feeling they were interested in caring experience, I haven’t worked for the NHS before, I think that bodes really well for anyone that has.
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Thank you, Coincidently- I did a Biomedical degree but wasn’t really into the path labs, so did a PhD and am just trying to get an entry level role in a neurosensory dept at the moment, I got the feeling they were interested in caring experience, I haven’t worked for the NHS before, I think that bodes really well for anyone that has.

Nice! A colleague of mine also has a PhD and wants to work in neuro and is currently going through the BMS route of getting HCPC registered for some NHS experience. It is an entirely non-patient facing role though so I'm sure there are many other ways of getting experience.
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Original post by BioChinga
Nice! A colleague of mine also has a PhD and wants to work in neuro and is currently going through the BMS route of getting HCPC registered for some NHS experience. It is an entirely non-patient facing role though so I'm sure there are many other ways of getting experience.

Yes that’s the issue for any patient facing one you need that bit of the experience which I don’t have- I think maybe there’ll be fewer applicants with it re covid- any volunteering I asked about seemed to be affected. I wonder if you could contact someone on LinkedIn or similar that has taken students for the stp to ask how to improve the actual application - tho in your case it sounds like you need a fair amount of luck with the number of places per applicant.. fingers crossed for you
Original post by BioChinga
6 years experience as a BMS + 2 teaching at university. I apply for Micro as that's my specialism (although I am aware that it is one of the most competitive STP specialisms). Last year on the discord channel all the successful applicants for Micro seemed had a PhD besides 1. Specialisms must differ in their criteria.

I'm very aware of how bitter I sound, because I am. I just feel like each application process I don't actually learn anything about what I'm missing due to the lack of feedback.


Micro is my specialism too - I've dropped you a message if you want to chat about it further.
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Micro is my specialism too - I've dropped you a message if you want to chat about it further.

Thankyou!
I got onto the STP with my undergrad degree so having a PhD definitely isn't a necessity but honestly make sure it's for you and what you want to do. Perhaps, a PhD would have you more mentally prepared.

I had false misconceptions about it and I'm now severely struggling with the program due to several reasons (knowing it won't lead me to where I want to be, location, people, poor mental health), although I try as much as I can.

Not saying it would be the case for everyone but just for me, anyway, it is. I personally don't feel I fit into the culture and type of people who do this. So it's a pretty lonely road for me.

So all i'm saying is if you want to spend your life being a clinical scientist and working up that ladder then go for it. Best to get some work experience too in your department to know what it really would be like. For some people, it might be just what they were looking to do and they might enjoy it.

Remember you could be posted to any location, and you will be there for three years besides doing a master's degree. You could liken it to medical training, wherein you're posted to any random part of UK and have to do different rotations of hospitals and training. It's not a small commitment especially if you're young so you're 20s would be used up quickly (i'm sure you'll be aware of this though). :smile:

Maybe if I read a post like this last year, it would have changed my mind and I wouldn't be in the dilemma i'm currently in, plus someone else could have had this place who really wanted it, so maybe this helps someone like me.
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