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hello sexxxiii wanna hook up 2nite??? ;) - the demise of gentlemen Watch

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    (Original post by katyness)
    That is a clever way to get pussy
    ziing!

    I've pulled! I'll get the goat.
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    ok whoever neg repped my last comment and others who disagree with me, please read this article:
    http://www.savvymiss.com/love-advice...-browse/1.html
    it basically states that there are three mental states of men when it comes to vibrators:
    those who are not ok with them - they feel intimidated and want to be enough to please their girls by themselves. even though in todays society these men have no choice in the matter as most girls wont give up their vibrators.

    those who will only use them if needed - basically if they fail to make the woman orgasm by themselves they feel immasculated and despite the vibrator making them feel the same, the fact that you're now pleased makes it slightly easier.

    and the guy whos ok with them - or "the lazy guy" a guy is quoted in the article saying "it does all the work for you" basically saying he's either incapable of pleasing a woman or cant be bothered with spending a whole 15 minutes on foreplay so uses a vibrator instead of having to go down the girl.

    so basically the majority of guys who are ok with you using vibrators are just lazy although i daresay there is a small percentage who are genuinely ok with them.

    side note: if a man feels he immasculated by your vibrator then he must get his masculinity from another source (fighting, being aggressive etc). this is my theory for the increased levels of violence and decrease in "gentlemanly" behavior.

    my advice ladies: give up your vibrators and see just how much more happy and/or less aggressive you're man becomes. if every woman stopped using a vibrator then i reckon "gentlemanly" behaviour may start to reappear more as men are more aprriciative of you for not using one.

    if you dont like what i say please feel free to neg rep me, i really dont care about rep
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    (Original post by shinytoy)
    folk

    im appalled at the lack of gentlemenliness in todays society.

    im a classy gal, all my skirts are below knee length and im always fairly covered, never drunk (teetotal) and virginal. however, this is the third time i have met a dude in a party/bookstore/trainstation and had an intelligent conversation which resulted in him inviting me for dinner.

    on all occasions, the dude texts me something like 'hi sexxiii whatcha doin??wanna hang tom nite lolzz? meet 4 dinna yea?? ;-)) xox'. since when does a gentleman ask a lady if she 'wana hang'? since when do you address a classy lady as 'sexxiiii!!!;-))'

    another thing i have noticed is dudes are so accustomed to loose moralled gals that they expect some sort of relations on the first date. now i dont usually kiss a dude on the first couple dates, i prefer to know the person well. but some of these guys are so used to gals giving head on date 1 or 2 they come to expect it and if you dont offer it they think you dont like them.

    also, even BEFORE the first date, i have had dudes trying to feel out if they will get any action to see if it is a waste of time or not. they text stff like 'lookin fwd 2 c u 2nite, u real hott bin thinkin bout u in my arms all day sexxii ;-)). if i greet u with a long slow kiss is that ok or watt??' being a classy lady, no way am i gonna snog a dude i barely know.

    but most dudes think if you spot a good looking dude and he sees a hot girl, you dont need to know each other you should just start shagging since you already like the look of each other. and many gals are that way in this day and age, so alot of guys come to expect that from a gal. and when the gal is a classy lady who dresses modestly and doesnt snog random dudes or offer sex for the price of a dinner in Pizza Express, they dont know how to react and either think you dont like them or are gold-digging.

    anyone else notice this? what do you do? are there any gentlemen left or only a bunch of wannabe pimps and PUAs?

    EDIT: have met most of these types of men after work or walking around in my lunch hour so i have been wearing marks and spencer business suits (skirts all below the knee length, with black tights and no revealing splits) with pearl necklaces, and hair in a bun. i also carry myself in a classy way and work in tax so do not come across in a disgusting way. also these guys are also not chavs, they seem classy intelligent and educated, most have MBA or LLM and wear suits, and speak properly. it is only after the inital approach they try to go all 'street'on me
    Hola mamacita esta noche quieres salir conmigo
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    (Original post by philbphil)
    ok whoever neg repped my last comment and others who disagree with me, please read this article:
    http://www.savvymiss.com/love-advice...-browse/1.html
    it basically states that there are three mental states of men when it comes to vibrators:
    those who are not ok with them - they feel intimidated and want to be enough to please their girls by themselves. even though in todays society these men have no choice in the matter as most girls wont give up their vibrators.

    those who will only use them if needed - basically if they fail to make the woman orgasm by themselves they feel immasculated and despite the vibrator making them feel the same, the fact that you're now pleased makes it slightly easier.

    and the guy whos ok with them - or "the lazy guy" a guy is quoted in the article saying "it does all the work for you" basically saying he's either incapable of pleasing a woman or cant be bothered with spending a whole 15 minutes on foreplay so uses a vibrator instead of having to go down the girl.

    so basically the majority of guys who are ok with you using vibrators are just lazy although i daresay there is a small percentage who are genuinely ok with them.

    side note: if a man feels he immasculated by your vibrator then he must get his masculinity from another source (fighting, being aggressive etc). this is my theory for the increased levels of violence and decrease in "gentlemanly" behavior.

    my advice ladies: give up your vibrators and see just how much more happy and/or less aggressive you're man becomes. if every woman stopped using a vibrator then i reckon "gentlemanly" behaviour may start to reappear more as men are more aprriciative of you for not using one.

    if you dont like what i say please feel free to neg rep me, i really dont care about rep
    Since you seem to be sensitive to the issue, I would like to start out by saying that I’ve never neg rep’d anyone, anywhere on any forum.

    I thought it interesting that you started at page two of the article. When I went to page 1, I found this;

    Lovers of the vibrator are comfortable with their masculinity. They aren’t afraid that a machine will put them out of the lovemaking business. “Unless they have vibrators that are like jackhammers, I will never be intimidated,” says Frank, 27.

    Besides, men should want their ladies doing some solo experimentation with a vibrator, says Shane, 33. “It’s good that a woman knows where the sweet spots are, so then she can steer the guy.”

    In Shane’s humble opinion, too many women don’t know their own bodies and what it takes to make them orgasm. Some quality time alone with a vibrator could change that. It’s like the old joke: What does it take to get to Carnegie Hall? “Practice, practice, practice,” he says.

    My thoughts were that John Crawford did a job to get an article written and posted with opposing viewpoints that could be completed within his time constraints.

    My wife does own vibrators and I purchased them all. They are seldom included in foreplay or intercourse and if they are it’s because I find it stimulating to watch her orgasm (just think of it as live porn) and I have no fear that she will not have additional orgasms with me.

    Masturbation is about fantasy, sex is about eroticism.

    If you believe in God, he gave us men the ability to impregnate two or three women a day. He gave women the ability to become impregnated once every nine months, but at the same time he gave them the ability to have multiple orgasms.

    I am in no way intimidated by them and fail to understand why you should be.
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    (Original post by boromir9111)
    That line and gentlemen are contradictory in so many ways! they don't go together. A gentlemen wouldn't say that.
    This fails on so many levels.
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    (Original post by shinytoy)
    i would be realllly grateful if you could help me with this! i just dont get it? alot of people randomly approach me, but i dont see why so many of them are insane playah dudes who wana sexxxxiiii time?
    First off, I would not describe myself as a nice man-god knows I have been a bit of a douche on multiple occasions. However, when it comes to approaching people I find it easier to approach people I know. You also know if they're worth your time or not. It might be the same for the type of people you want to attract.

    Also, have you thought of approaching guys randomly?
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    (Original post by shinytoy)
    folk

    im appalled at the lack of gentlemenliness in todays society.

    im a classy gal, all my skirts are below knee length and im always fairly covered, never drunk (teetotal) and virginal. however, this is the third time i have met a dude in a party/bookstore/trainstation and had an intelligent conversation which resulted in him inviting me for dinner.

    on all occasions, the dude texts me something like 'hi sexxiii whatcha doin??wanna hang tom nite lolzz? meet 4 dinna yea?? ;-)) xox'. since when does a gentleman ask a lady if she 'wana hang'? since when do you address a classy lady as 'sexxiiii!!!;-))'

    another thing i have noticed is dudes are so accustomed to loose moralled gals that they expect some sort of relations on the first date. now i dont usually kiss a dude on the first couple dates, i prefer to know the person well. but some of these guys are so used to gals giving head on date 1 or 2 they come to expect it and if you dont offer it they think you dont like them.

    also, even BEFORE the first date, i have had dudes trying to feel out if they will get any action to see if it is a waste of time or not. they text stff like 'lookin fwd 2 c u 2nite, u real hott bin thinkin bout u in my arms all day sexxii ;-)). if i greet u with a long slow kiss is that ok or watt??' being a classy lady, no way am i gonna snog a dude i barely know.

    but most dudes think if you spot a good looking dude and he sees a hot girl, you dont need to know each other you should just start shagging since you already like the look of each other. and many gals are that way in this day and age, so alot of guys come to expect that from a gal. and when the gal is a classy lady who dresses modestly and doesnt snog random dudes or offer sex for the price of a dinner in Pizza Express, they dont know how to react and either think you dont like them or are gold-digging.

    anyone else notice this? what do you do? are there any gentlemen left or only a bunch of wannabe pimps and PUAs?

    EDIT: have met most of these types of men after work or walking around in my lunch hour so i have been wearing marks and spencer business suits (skirts all below the knee length, with black tights and no revealing splits) with pearl necklaces, and hair in a bun. i also carry myself in a classy way and work in tax so do not come across in a disgusting way. also these guys are also not chavs, they seem classy intelligent and educated, most have MBA or LLM and wear suits, and speak properly. it is only after the inital approach they try to go all 'street'on me
    just cause i have a massive head doesnt mean you can **** me
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    (Original post by Rob1000)
    First off, I would not describe myself as a nice man-god knows I have been a bit of a douche on multiple occasions. However, when it comes to approaching people I find it easier to approach people I know. You also know if they're worth your time or not. It might be the same for the type of people you want to attract.

    Also, have you thought of approaching guys randomly?
    Girls approaching guys. Thats a new concept.
    One the TS should consider since she has no control of who comes up to her but can control who she goes up to.
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    (Original post by Retrospect)
    Many guys act that way because many girls respond to it. Saying that, it doesn't really represent the 'demise of the gentleman', it's just that today's gentlemen seem to prefer to keep in hiding. :ninja:
    We hide in remote places :ninja: and somtimes we disguise ourself as the OP surjests, for the time we meet somone we deem special :O.
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    Pray tell Shinytoy...why do you give your number out to these chavs?

    Maybe they target you because they see it as a challenge getting head from a prissy tax advisor on a first date.... ;-)
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    (Original post by i.am.lost)
    This fails on so many levels.
    Ok?
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    LOL who are these guys, I've never seen that : - D
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    I have always been nice to girls and tried to be a gentleman in every way possible but I have gotten nowhere. Yet some girls, I know go for arrogant, forward guys who, maybe dont talk to them in the way you have described, but perhaps call them names but the girls giggle and just take it. But maybe girls must take some blame also because if more girls rejected these 'brutish' guys then they would have to change their ways. Nice guys are out there, try talking to the shy boy in the corner, the guy not saying much, in my opinion 9 times out of ten, he will be nice and treat you right.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I've been a gentleman for as long as I can remember. Where's that got me with women?

    ****ing nowhere.
    Amen brother
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    It's true that is, real gentlemen don't exist anymore, and romance is running thin - it's one thing I can't stand about the world today
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    You're nice and I appreciate your intellect. It is also attractive to carry yourself well so just keep doing what you're doing, you'll find someone suitable.
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    I sing this to girls all the time. Always works.

    Hey young girl how you feelin today?
    Girl Yo body just brighten my day up
    See you have now been approached by a playa
    but baby i wont play ya, lets have a conversation
    Like, Iz you in school baby
    what is your major
    Shawty give me yo number
    Cuz im dyin to date ya
    Aint got alot of time so i aint tryin to chase ya
    Just store it in the memory of my 3 way pager (Oooh)


    Adrenaline rush like whoo
    Can't explain what I wanna do to ya
    i need some vegetable stew
    Cuz shawty Got me feelin weak
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    (Original post by kitty09)
    It's true that is, real gentlemen don't exist anymore, and romance is running thin - it's one thing I can't stand about the world today
    And you can thank women for that.
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    (Original post by trooper6)
    Since you seem to be sensitive to the issue, I would like to start out by saying that I’ve never neg rep’d anyone, anywhere on any forum.

    I thought it interesting that you started at page two of the article. When I went to page 1, I found this;




    My thoughts were that John Crawford did a job to get an article written and posted with opposing viewpoints that could be completed within his time constraints.

    My wife does own vibrators and I purchased them all. They are seldom included in foreplay or intercourse and if they are it’s because I find it stimulating to watch her orgasm (just think of it as live porn) and I have no fear that she will not have additional orgasms with me.

    Masturbation is about fantasy, sex is about eroticism.

    If you believe in God, he gave us men the ability to impregnate two or three women a day. He gave women the ability to become impregnated once every nine months, but at the same time he gave them the ability to have multiple orgasms.

    I am in no way intimidated by them and fail to understand why you should be.
    "so basically the majority of guys who are ok with you using vibrators are just lazy although i daresay there is a small percentage who are genuinely ok with them." i never said that there weren't people like you who are genuinly ok with them im just saying considering how many people have probably viewed my comments and the amount of men arguing with me, id say im probably right that there are alot more guys who are not 100% comfortable even if they say they are.

    as for your god comment, he may have made women only able to be impregnated once every nine months but they can still have sex whilst pregnant, besides u dont need a vibrator to give a woman multiple orgasms.

    well i daresay you'd be intimidated if instead of masturbating, your wife was cheating on you with a guy with a bigger penis that can do things yours cant do such as vibrate and that could keep going forever until she wants to stop. how is this any different? a penetrative vibrator is basically a replica of what i just described. aswell as the fact your wife will be comparing you to her vibrator (just the same as she'll be comparing you to her ex's) even if she doesnt tell you this, id also have a guess that she wishes you could please her as much as her vibrator regardless of whether or not you can please her now, but if she could get the pleasure of a vibrator from your penis or how you are now, i think she'd go for the first. besides as i said a penetrative vibrator is a replica penis, which means basically she is replicating cheating on you. thats how i can be uncomfortable with them.
 
 
 
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