10% of 'British' children are now mixed race Watch

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(Original post by U.S Lecce)
Funny you say that, because i can remerber a programme on bbc3 and it had a load of british nationalists that claimed to be 100% british anglo, they all did a dna test (there was like 8 of them) and all of them apart from 1 had similar results to the one i said, not one of them were 100% anglo, apart from one guy that was 80% anglo and like 20% south eastern european.

EDIT: actually now that i think about it, it might not have been anglo it might have been central and northern european genetics.
It was Northern European.

Gary Bushell and Margaret Thatcher's daughter were involved. It is on youtube if you so care to search for it.
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Those don't count either.
So who then?
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(Original post by Studentrepreneur)
It was Northern European.

Gary Bushell and Margaret Thatcher's daughter were involved. It is on youtube if you so care to search for it.
That was it!
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(Original post by Kickflip)
forced to nurture the death of their own bloodline. We are merely the temporary occupants of our genes, thousands of years of our ancestors lived, loved, struggled and died to pass that genetic inheritance on to us.
Can you please explain what a bloodline is?

Why is it ending anything? Why is it any different to mixing hair colour or height? Or picking your partner based on their susceptibility to colds? These are all things in your genetic make-up you are mixing (or have already mixed, much like this "bloodline") What about blood types, why are all these things which define us genetically of no issue to you.

Skin colour is only an issue as you can see it, imagine you were blind, why aren't any of the above point an issue in the "bloodline" destruction?
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I was talking to my mum about this the other day as a lot of my wider family (who I don't talk to) are very racist. As far as I understand the world has developed by people from one area/country discovering or moving to another area or country. My name, for example is linked to the USA and New Zealand so I would imagine some of my ancestors came from those areas. In that sense the whole world is mixed race, that's how the human race and civilisation develops-we probably all have skills and strengths in different areas which are just developed more the more we come together. People are only noticing mixed race people more now because maybe Asians and black people are in relationships with white people more than ever before, it didn't use to be acceptable to be with someone outside your race or colour. It's happened since time began!!
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I was talking to my mum about this the other day as a lot of my wider family (who I don't talk to) are very racist. As far as I understand the world has developed by people from one area/country discovering or moving to another area or country. My name, for example is linked to the USA and New Zealand so I would imagine some of my ancestors came from those areas. In that sense the whole world is mixed race, that's how the human race and civilisation develops-we probably all have skills and strengths in different areas which are just developed more the more we come together. People are only noticing mixed race people more now because maybe Asians and black people are in relationships with white people more than ever before, it didn't use to be acceptable to be with someone outside your race or colour. It's happened since time began!!
Is that you in your sig?:eek:
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(Original post by milkytea)
**** off OP

To satisfy your interest, yes I am actually mixed race - half English and half Irish - but I'm white, so you probably wouldn't care.
Are you actually joking? :curious:

Yes, being half North European and half North European is really mixed race..
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(Original post by Bubbles*de*Milo)
Are you actually joking? :curious:

Yes, being half North European and half North European is really mixed race..
It's only a matter of degree. Racial deliniation is basically arbitrary.
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(Original post by Studentrepreneur)
By that logic slavery where blacks own whites is acceptable because we did it to them?

Way to miss the point. There are moral issues i.e. slavery vs fear of what's different i.e. Britain becoming more mixed

Will whites (when they are the minority) receive free educations like people of clear native american ancestry do today? Is that fair?

Why wouldn't they? I hardly doubt that as soon as the percentage of mixed/coloured people in Britain goes over 50% they're all suddenly going to turn insanely racist and deny whites education etc just because they are white.

According to who?

According to me, fool. Is it absolutely necessary to put "in my opinion" before/after everything I put that's an opinion? Because if you want to take opinion as fact then you go right ahead and do it, but that will be because of your own idiocy.

k.

What an absolutely amazing, insightful, succinct point you have there.
Go back to texting your facebook GF.



Not a white supremacist. Just a realist that recognises the danger of a rapidly ethnic-changing population.

10% is rapid considering the amount of immigrants and the amount of years it's been happening?
And what dangers would these be?


I see that two people of the same ethnicity being together offends you. Sorry to hear that.

Yes, because my parents being together affects me grievously :rolleyes:
As is clearly obvious, what pisses me off is people who can't look past race/ethnicity and who think that being one arbitrarily makes one superior.
Misunderstanding isn't a form of argument and is immensly childish. Please do grow up before replying.

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(Original post by littleshambles)
It's only a matter of degree. Racial deliniation is basically arbitrary.
No, it really isn't.
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Chicken Burger?
this is what I was thinking...

There is only one solution!!!!
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I have Irish, American, Welsh, English, French & German in me yet I'm considered White British. Nobody is 'pure' WB.
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I'm mixed white and Chinese, so the **** what?
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I have Irish, American, Welsh, English, French & German in me yet I'm considered White British. Nobody is 'pure' WB.
Well you are white and you are British, what do you expect? :rolleyes:

I don't know if people would consider you English though, that's something else..
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(Original post by Bubbles*de*Milo)
No, it really isn't.
I would say it is. Wait perhaps 5 decades, give or take a few, and today's minorities will no longer be regarded as tomorrow's.
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(Original post by Ilustrius)
I would say it is. Wait perhaps 5 decades, give or take a few, and today's minorities will no longer be regarded as tomorrow's.
Who cares about the future? Right now, 2011, it is erroneous to say that Racial identities are arbitrary.. they're not at all.
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(Original post by Bubbles*de*Milo)
Who cares about the future? Right now, 2011, it is erroneous to say that Racial identities are arbitrary.. they're not at all.
Who cares about the future? Many people do. I certainly do. 'Arbitrary' constitutes a function of time, so yes Racial delineation is arbitrary. It's going to improve, and has done so over the past centuries. Delineation and identification are entirely different things. We're talking from a social perspective. Yes identification is going to continue e.g. for medical purposes, but as a social stigma, I'm optimistic that it'll improve. Trends reflect this. Of course there will be fluctuations, but the general trend is a positive one.
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(Original post by Bubbles*de*Milo)
No, it really isn't.
... Yes it really is?

I did not say that racial identities were arbitrary. I said racial delineation is arbitrary. Which it is. There are no objective sharp biological cut offs between "races".
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(Original post by Bubbles*de*Milo)
No, it really isn't.
Yeah, it is. Doubts over biological racial categorisation were around even at the end of the nineteenth-century but it was across the twentieth that the tables really turned against this particular aspect of the Victorian desire to categorise everything. The science of genetics in particular demonstrated the 'non-coterminus' and clinal nature of human geographic variation, i.e. its 'fuzziness'. Even if we don't have much interest in studying the science we only have to look at the extent to which geographic populations vary (whether in observable or unobservable characteristics) within Africa to see that grouping Africans as a 'race' is problematic. Other than that we might ask ourselves: at what point, geographically, do we decide a 'European' starts to look 'Chinese' and, moreover, why isn't the point somewhere in the middle a 'race' either?

Here's the shortest scientific paper I can find (people don't like to read long ones) which discusses the problems of the biological race concept. It's a little technical in parts but there is a helpful summary box in plain language.
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(Original post by littleshambles)
... Yes it really is?

I did not say that racial identities were arbitrary. I said racial delineation is arbitrary. Which it is. There are no objective sharp biological cut offs between "races".
Good point!

I found this on wiki:

"While scientists use the concept of race to make practical distinctions among fuzzy sets of traits, the scientific community feels that the idea of race is often used by the general public in a naive or simplistic way, erroneously designating wholly discrete types of individuals. Among humans, race has no cladistic significance—all people belong to the same hominid subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens. Regardless of the extent to which race exists, the word "race" is problematic and may carry negative connotations. Social conceptions and groupings of races vary over time, involving folk taxonomies that define essential types of individuals based on perceived sets of traits. Scientists consider biological essentialism obsolete, and generally discourage racial explanations for collective differentiation in both physical and behavioral traits.

As people define and put about different conceptions of race, they actively create contrasting social realities through which racial categorization is achieved in varied ways.[15] In this sense, races are said to be social constructs. These constructs can develop within various legal, economic, and sociopolitical contexts, and at times may be the effect, rather than the cause, of major social situations. Socioecomonic factors, in combination with early but enduring views of race, have led to considerable suffering amongst the disadvantaged racial groups. Scholars continue to debate the degrees to which racial categories are biologically warranted and socially constructed, as well as the extent to which the realities of race must be acknowledged in order for society to comprehend and address racism adequately."
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