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    (Original post by MENDACIUM)
    It is not as simple as that at all. Having a hair color plays minimal effect on ones life. Its also totally genetic. Homosexuality is not genetic , or hardwired. There is no Gay gene, and there is no evidence of there being genes making one Gay. There is only speculation about it, and due to the subjective nature of sexuality, it's been concluded that it is evidently not hard-wired.
    Why does it matter if it's genetic or not? :confused: And as far as I'm aware, the causes of homosexuality are yet unknown.

    (Original post by MENDACIUM)
    Finally, the whole purpose one reproduces is to pass on their genes. If we look at this all dispassionately, your entire body is designed to ensure your survival and that you reproduce so your genes can survive through your children. Homosexuality means that your children will not have kids. If they decide to have them. Only one of the parents will be the mother or father – and I don’t even need to specify the social and psychological effects on the child.
    This argument is ridiculous. As if nature cares whether we pass on our genes or not. :rolleyes:

    (Original post by MENDACIUM)
    Furthermore, it goes against what your child is designed to do, from the hormones in their body to their organs.
    We aren't designed, we evolved. And even if we were designed, why would we be obliged to obey the designer?

    (Original post by MENDACIUM)
    In addition, there are social effects as well. For instance , HIV travels the quickest in homosexual men(won’t apply to daughters though). There are many people and many societies who look down on this practice, and it can effect their jobs, friendships, life ect – NOT that I say it is right that it does, but I am just stating what may occur.
    Syphilis travels quickest in heterosexuals. So what? We should educate people to protect themselves.
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    (Original post by miser)
    Why does it matter if it's genetic or not? :confused: And as far as I'm aware, the causes of homosexuality are yet unknown.


    This argument is ridiculous. As if nature cares whether we pass on our genes or not. :rolleyes:


    We aren't designed, we evolved. And even if we were designed, why would we be obliged to obey the designer?


    Syphilis travels quickest in heterosexuals. So what? We should educate people to protect themselves.
    On what grounds do you accept homosexuality? (Could you list your key reasons please).
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    (Original post by MENDACIUM)
    On what grounds do you accept homosexuality? (Could you list your key reasons please).
    I accept it because I try to be a compassionate person and have no reasons to disapprove.
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    (Original post by miser)
    I accept it because I try to be a compassionate person and have no reasons to disapprove.
    Specifically , what principles do you feel you use to accept homosexuality?
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    (Original post by MENDACIUM)
    Specifically , what principles do you feel you use to accept homosexuality?
    Compassion, justice, humility, love, etc...
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    (Original post by standreams)
    I have absolutely no interest in your family tree, but unless your family are somehow a separate subset of the human race, I see no reason why you should presume that any child of yours would naturally be very similar to you in his/her interests. My experience shows that very few children have very similar interests to their parents. Presumably, you would also want a partner with very similar interests to you, to ensure this is the case? Would you be 'disappointed' if your child shared their mother's interests rather than your own?

    I don't think many people care either way whether their hypothetical future child has similar interests to them- a good parent will expose their offspring to a range of different things and let the child choose for themselves what interests them. A good parent would obviously also try to share in their child's interests, whatever those might be, as well as letting them have their own individual quirks, interests and hobbies.
    That's just anecdotal evidence. My experience is clearly different to yours, hence our differing views. I would be disappointed insofar as I look forward to taking my son to football matches, etc. If, in the unlikely case, my son is not sporty, I will be somewhat disappointed but it will make no difference to my overall role as a parent.

    Well we disagree again, I think they do care. As for the rest of that paragraph; it is all obvious and didn't even need to be said.
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    (Original post by miser)
    Compassion, justice, humility, love, etc...
    Those are subjective concepts. I could say we need all of that for animals - so let us not eat meat. Or that I want my son or daughter to lead a life they are physically designed for, to have the joy of children , ect so I could use the same principals you have. Do you have any objective principles, which you are using, i.e rights, rules, precepts?
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    (Original post by MENDACIUM)
    Those are subjective concepts. I could say we need all of that for animals - so let us not eat meat.
    Good idea. Let's only kill when we need to.

    (Original post by MENDACIUM)
    Or that I want my son or daughter to lead a life they are physically designed for, to have the joy of children , ect so I could use the same principals you have.
    There is no reason to believe we are 'designed', and even if we were, we are free creatures able to make our own decisions.

    (Original post by MENDACIUM)
    Do you have any objective principles, which you are using, i.e rights, rules, precepts?
    Sure. Here is one:
    Any action, intentionally committed, made in the presence of an understanding of its expected consequences, whose intended effect would naturally lead to the unnecessary harm or the unjust suffering of another, that is committed in the absence of unreasonable coercion, nor is committed as a result of a choice deemed to be the lesser of evils, ought rightly and universally, irrespective of time or culture, be declared immoral.
    Persecution of homosexual people would contravene it.
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    i wouldnt mind at all. the only thing i would be concerned about is how they were treated by others...got to raise them to be strong people so they can be confident in themselves. also, id make them adopt!! hahaha. i would be disappointed if my children didnt want kids...family is the most important thing in my life, and i want it to continue. however, it is completely their choice so i wouldnt be annoyed or angry or try and convince them otherwise - thatd just be mean.
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    (Original post by Perseveranze)
    Not really, my kids won't be in the kind of environment that tends to play a huge part in determining this unusual orientation.
    The womb?

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    Carry on being a dad
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    (Original post by Bluffroom)
    do not pretend to be male! If you are show us proof! :hubba:
    *Pulls pants down* Here's your proof!
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    (Original post by ForgetMe)
    *Pulls pants down* Here's your proof!
    I don't accept pretend proof as currency. Pics or gtfo :holmes: :sexface:
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    (Original post by Bluffroom)
    I don't accept pretend proof as currency. Pics or gtfo :holmes: :sexface:
    Pics of what?
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    (Original post by ForgetMe)
    Pics of what?
    Pics of proof.
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    (Original post by Bluffroom)
    Pics of proof.
    Sorry, I don't give out pictures that expose nudity to strangers
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    (Original post by Bulbasaur)
    The womb?

    False. Homosexuality is not hard-wired. No-one is born gay. Nurture makes one gay. “Homosexuality Is Not Hardwired,” Concludes Head of The Human Genome Project

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/arc...7/mar/07032003.
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    Be overjoyed!

    Finally I would have someone to re-watch episodes of Will and Grace with.
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    I'd be cool with it, different strokes for different folks. I'd try to have a chat about what to do if they encounter any prejudice. I'd probably have the regular cringey, safe sex chats and make sure they weren't being bullied, but I'd have that with my kids regardless of sexuality.

    If I'm ever a dad, I hope my kids are never scared of telling me the truth, whether it's about sexuality, grades, drugs, or anything considered a tough topic to approach.
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    (Original post by MENDACIUM)
    It is not as simple as that at all. Having a hair color plays minimal effect on ones life. Its also totally genetic. Homosexuality is not genetic , or hardwired.
    Who are you to say this, you don't have a pHD in this field and as you said there is no definitive answer, but there is evidence backing up theories and assumptions - it may not be genetic but it's definitely biological.
    Finally, the whole purpose one reproduces is to pass on their genes. If we look at this all dispassionately, your entire body is designed to ensure your survival and that you reproduce so your genes can survive through your children. Homosexuality means that your children will not have kids.
    I'm sorry but are you serious? Gay men can have children - furthermore, they can have biological children through egg donation and a surrogate - and hopefully soon, it could be possible for both parents to be biological parents through scientific advances.
    If they decide to have them. Only one of the parents will be the mother or father – and I don’t even need to specify the social and psychological effects on the child.
    BS, most children from same-sex couples have great childhoods, the only reason for them to have psychological damage would be from hearing the crap people like you spew.
 
 
 
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