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    I think there should pink tubes which is only for women and golden tubes which is only for men. Then a rainbow for tube for the strange people
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    (Original post by DiceTheSlice)
    I think there should pink tubes which is only for women and golden tubes which is only for men. Then a rainbow for tube for the strange people
    So what about strange men and strange women? Do they just straddle a gendered carriage and a rainbow carriage?

    I see holes in your plan

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    (Original post by EatAndRevise)
    If you don't feel comfortable around men, then you probably shouldn't go out into public.
    (Original post by King Boo)
    Well if you're a minor and dont feel comfortable around the public on public transport, take an adult with you. Your fears and issues with the public aren't that of the rest of societies, and you shouldn't impose on the rest of London because of your bad experiences.
    So your first response to a child being sexually harassed is to put the blame on me LMFAO alright then
    I hope you never have children
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    (Original post by cat-pook)
    So your first response to a child being sexually harassed is to put the blame on me LMFAO alright then
    I hope you never have children
    Please indicate where I blamed you for getting sexually harassed.

    I said that if you don't feel comfortable around men, then you shouldn't go out in public, because if you didn't know, there are men in public.
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    (Original post by EatAndRevise)
    Please indicate where I blamed you for getting sexually harassed.

    I said that if you don't feel comfortable around men, then you shouldn't go out in public, because if you didn't know, there are men in public.
    Is it really that hard to cater for people? Like, would it really **** up your life that much if there was a women's carriage for women who would feel safer? Why are you so strongly against, like, support for people?
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    (Original post by cat-pook)
    Is it really that hard to cater for people? Like, would it really **** up your life that much if there was a women's carriage for women who would feel safer? Why are you so strongly against, like, support for people?
    "support for people" "cater for people"

    I'm sure there are many men who don't feel comfortable/safe travelling on the underground. It's not possible to cater for everyone in a situation like this.
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    (Original post by EatAndRevise)
    "support for people" "cater for people"

    I'm sure there are many men who don't feel comfortable/safe travelling on the underground. It's not possible to cater for everyone.
    But it is! If there are men who don't feel comfortable because of past experiences with abuse or harrassment, or maybe find the underground a sensory overload because of a developmental disability such as autism, they can also be catered for! In fact, that'd be amazing!
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    (Original post by cat-pook)
    But it is! If there are men who don't feel comfortable because of past experiences with abuse or harrassment, or maybe find the underground a sensory overload because of a developmental disability such as autism, they can also be catered for! In fact, that'd be amazing!
    I don't quite understand what you are suggesting we do to cater for them.

    Having women-only carriages is not only completely sexist, but it would also be very impractical, especially during peak times.
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    (Original post by EatAndRevise)
    I don't quite understand what you are suggesting.

    Having women-only carriages is not only completely sexist, but it would also be very impractical, especially during peak times.
    If Japan is managing it fine, then clearly it's not impossible. It's not sexist at all, and I don't really understand how you could misconstrue it in such a way.
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    (Original post by cat-pook)
    If Japan is managing it fine, then clearly it's not impossible. It's not sexist at all, and I don't really understand how you could misconstrue it in such a way.
    I never said it was impossible, I said it was impractical.

    Yes it is, you are giving special treatment to a group of people based on their gender. Can you imagine the outcry from feminists if men were given a men-only carriage?
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    No, I like having men rub up against me
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    (Original post by cat-pook)
    So your first response to a child being sexually harassed is to put the blame on me LMFAO alright then
    I hope you never have children
    Oh please stop with your condescending high horse nature, didn't your parents ever tell you to respect your elders?

    The fact is, if you feel unsafe around random men in public, then frankly you should not be using public transport alone. As your very quick to bring up, you're a minor, and resultantly, if you feel unsafe, you should either NOT use the tube alone, or have a legal adult with you at all times to reassure you.

    Im sorry, but I've been using the tube since before you hit puberty, and yes women sometimes are touched inappropriately, but dont stand there and slander all men with the same brush. Its patronising and stereotypical, yet you seem to expect sympathy for claiming all men are potential rapists and perverts? By saying you've had to run off the train crying, tbh it makes you seem immature and that you aren't old enough to be using the tube alone anyway.

    My advice to you is perhaps you should stop using the tube alone, until you've grown up a little bit and learnt how to deal and interact with the public on public transport before using it again. Ironically, I felt kinda sorry for your bad experiences, until you said you dont trust men on public transport.
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    (Original post by adesola15)
    Source??? Or just casual prejudice???
    (Original post by Mannz)
    Firstly, I would love to see the statistics for each point you made.
    Secondly, you contradicted yourself. You say it is not right to make a "vast majority" based on a "small minority", namely men, yet you proceed to make a gross generalisation of black people based on nothing more than your ignorance and further stereotype all "non-white groups". Unless you have witnessed every case of harassment and cat-calling and have witnessed every single crime committed to make an accurate judgement, I suggest you sit the **** down.


    I assume you have never personally lived in an area with a high percentage of black people, otherwise it would be pretty obvious to you that they are disproportionately responsible for a huge amount of street crime, and are much, much more likely to engage in street harassment.

    Anyway: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...n-of-race.html

    They show that among those proceeded against for street crimes, 54 per cent were black; for robbery, 59 per cent; and for gun crimes, 67 per cent. Street crimes include muggings, assault with intent to rob and snatching property.
    Just over 12 per cent of London’s 7.5 million population is black, including those of mixed black and white parentage, while 69 per cent is white, according to the Office for National Statistics.
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    (Original post by supreme overlord)
    'I think some of the girls who think they are being felt up and purely wishful thinking secretly hoping that a stranger finds them hot and they love it!'

    can you
    please
    get your head out of your ass
    and don't tell women who feel violated that they liked it

    and no, it wouldn't be 'done by anyone attracted to them, regardless of actual gender'
    how many times have you been catcalled by a woman on the street
    how many times have you been felt up by a woman
    i'm not saying it couldn't happen but the occurrence must be ridiculously small in comparison

    aside from the fact that LESBIANS HAVE THIS PROBLEM JUST AS MUCH AS OTHER WOMEN

    Oh come on I get that some women do feel violated and that yes some men are vile pigs, but just as some are you shouldn't blame or assume all men are the same. I'm sure some men are totally embarrassed when they accidentally touch a woman. I'm just purely saying that all men don't go onto the train to touch up a woman.

    And I don't get what is so implausible about a gay person feeling up a person. I mean I'm sure it doesn't happen, and I didn't say lesbians didn't I just think it's a silly idea for women to have their own train.
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    No, it'd just result in segregation going further. It's taking a step backwards.
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    (Original post by hycurrie)
    Oh come on I get that some women do feel violated and that yes some men are vile pigs, but just as some are you shouldn't blame or assume all men are the same. I'm sure some men are totally embarrassed when they accidentally touch a woman. I'm just purely saying that all men don't go onto the train to touch up a woman.

    And I don't get what is so implausible about a gay person feeling up a person. I mean I'm sure it doesn't happen, and I didn't say lesbians didn't I just think it's a silly idea for women to have their own train.
    I don't understand your point here. You're using the 'not all men' argument against me saying don't tell a woman that feels violated that she liked it? Why does it matter if it was an accident? That..in no way...means she liked it...or is even related to that statement what

    and the lesbian thing i'm not saying it's implausible i'm saying it's such a ridiculously small occurrence that it's hardly worth considering in a larger picture 'oh no we can't have a women's only coach because once a year we might get a lesbian touching someone up'
    as opposed to the countless cases day to day?

    like I said, it has merit but I don't necessarily agree that it's a good idea and i think the more spacious carriages etc is (though unlikely) a far better way forward.
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    (Original post by somethingbeautiful)
    So what about strange men and strange women? Do they just straddle a gendered carriage and a rainbow carriage?

    I see holes in your plan

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    Strange peeps can take the rainbow carriage. Fool proof plan bro
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    (Original post by scrotgrot)
    I knew someone would wilfully misinterpret: OK, groping on the train is not endemic. When it happens it's a problem but it happens rarely, I'd say, or at least nowhere near as much as those countries, like Japan, which have had to institute women-only coaches. Happy?
    No, actually. From personal experience I can tell you that it is anything but rare.
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    Groping and grinding on the underground?

    I've been using the underground daily for the last 8 years and I've never seen any groping, grinding etc.

    Which tube lines have all this fun going on?
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    So when women demand entire carriages to themselves it's justified, but if men demand it for the exact same reason they are ridiculed. EVERYONE, regardless of gender, is subject to squeezing together on the tube at peak times. Why don't people stop perpetuating such stupid double standards and make valid suggestions (like separate carriages for the disabled/ pregnant).
 
 
 

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