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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Anyhow, my assessment of the manifestos..

    Greens - A horrid and bland backdrop and very unimaginative policies. Also, there's nothing here on the environment.

    Tories - A sturdy manifesto detailing our accomplishments in opposition and outlining some interesting policies.

    Labour - While i wanted to hate your manifesto because the roses are horrid and it's like you put jam on top of your content (which includes defamatory remarks about Tories and includes RL) i do actually quite like the way the content was laid out. Simple but effective and with a different background you could imagine it being a leaflet.

    Ukip - I get the impression that Hazzer basically gave you our defense policies and then somebody else stole a few of my now already enacted fishing ideas before you finally created your own environment policies (though i'd not be shocked if they were straight out of your RL manifesto). Marks for design but few for originality.

    Liberals - Lazy design but okay policies. I will however point that your housing SOI may have passed, but not a bill. Infact i'm not sure other than brothels what you actually passed in bill form.

    Socialists - I must admit that while i find the content repugnant i still do applaud you for the manifesto design. If it was new, you'd win the virtual prize for the design again.
    To be fair to UKIP, our defence policies have always overlapped heavily with theirs.

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    Conservative and Labour just seem to have wasted half the space with attacks on other parties. Traditionally that's never been done around here to that extent.

    UKIP's defence stuff is pretty horrid. Green is green. Liberals I like a lot; some very sensible stuff there.

    The Soc Manifesto might be a similar style, but the policies are different. Cons have used a similar plain blue style for years. We find one stye works for every 2 elections.

    Now, on to a serious matter. Mr Speaker, RayApparently is this Conservative Infrastructure plan that is floating around allowed in the rules? I recall a few elections back when UKIP tried to post a second manifesto in the comments there was a big hoo-ha. I'm sure it's against the rules?

    EDIT: Very happy to have won Rakas' Best Design award for, I think, the 4th election in a row.
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    Over two months of disappearing Chancellors...

    It was started as soon as the budget ended



    I asked you to give me names. Who did you ask for help? All I and several other Liberals ended up doing was watering down things like you trying to raise Corporation Tax or United trying to scrap the Welfare Cap
    It should have been written in parallel with the budget, the costing for the budget and finance bill, bar amendments due to the budget, should be identical and should have been gone through in detail for the budget, so there is no excuse for the finance bill to be so late

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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    PM me it I'll confirm or not
    Done!
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    (Original post by Republic1)
    Conservative and Labour just seem to have wasted half the space with attacks on other parties. Traditionally that's never been done around here to that extent.

    UKIP's defence stuff is pretty horrid. Green is green. Liberals I like a lot; some very sensible stuff there.

    The Soc Manifesto might be a similar style, but the policies are different. Cons have used a similar plain blue style for years. We find one stye works for every 2 elections.

    Now, on to a serious matter. Mr Speaker, RayApparently is this Conservative Infrastructure plan that is floating around allowed in the rules? I recall a few elections back when UKIP tried to post a second manifesto in the comments there was a big hoo-ha. I'm sure it's against the rules?
    Our infrastructure plans were announced a month or two back completely independently of any electoral intentions. I would also add that at least our attacks are based on the MHoC and not RL.

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    (Original post by Republic1)
    Conservative and Labour just seem to have wasted half the space with attacks on other parties. Traditionally that's never been done around here to that extent.

    UKIP's defence stuff is pretty horrid. Green is green. Liberals I like a lot; some very sensible stuff there.

    The Soc Manifesto might be a similar style, but the policies are different. Cons have used a similar plain blue style for years. We find one stye works for every 2 elections.

    Now, on to a serious matter. Mr Speaker, RayApparently is this Conservative Infrastructure plan that is floating around allowed in the rules? I recall a few elections back when UKIP tried to post a second manifesto in the comments there was a big hoo-ha. I'm sure it's against the rules?

    EDIT: Very happy to have won Rakas' Best Design award for, I think, the 4th election in a row.
    The infrastructure plans aren't really a manifesto though, and were submitted previously. I will be interested to find out the speaker's decision though.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    To be fair to UKIP, our defence policies have always overlapped heavily with theirs.

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    That's true.

    (Original post by Republic1)
    Conservative and Labour just seem to have wasted half the space with attacks on other parties. Traditionally that's never been done around here to that extent.

    UKIP's defence stuff is pretty horrid. Green is green. Liberals I like a lot; some very sensible stuff there.

    The Soc Manifesto might be a similar style, but the policies are different. Cons have used a similar plain blue style for years. We find one stye works for every 2 elections.

    Now, on to a serious matter. Mr Speaker, RayApparently is this Conservative Infrastructure plan that is floating around allowed in the rules? I recall a few elections back when UKIP tried to post a second manifesto in the comments there was a big hoo-ha. I'm sure it's against the rules?

    EDIT: Very happy to have won Rakas' Best Design award for, I think, the 4th election in a row.
    It's been spoilered and was released in Ad Hoc, hence it's more a reference than an extended manifesto.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    So how are you eradicating it?
    Not my area of expertise - ask TDA or one of the veterans

    (Original post by Lime-man)
    I'm not obsessed with it, and if I'm being frank, I didn't know how to. But there was an entire government there, some members a lot more economically literate than myself who'd rather pass the responsibility onto me when I was only made chancellor because I was the only member that could actually get something done.
    One way would've been to set up a thread and ask - we do that in SP

    Of course, but there'd be no one with any wealth that can avoid paying their taxes under a socialist government
    Untrue :eek: We'd decrease the lower socioeconomic classes' taxes and increase it on the top end


    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Anyhow, my assessment of the manifestos..

    Greens - A horrid and bland backdrop and very unimaginative policies. Also, there's nothing here on the environment.

    Tories - A sturdy manifesto detailing our accomplishments in opposition and outlining some interesting policies.

    Labour - While i wanted to hate your manifesto because the roses are horrid and it's like you put jam on top of your content (which includes defamatory remarks about Tories and includes RL) i do actually quite like the way the content was laid out. Simple but effective and with a different background you could imagine it being a leaflet.

    Ukip - I get the impression that Hazzer basically gave you our defense policies and then somebody else stole a few of my now already enacted fishing ideas before you finally created your own environment policies (though i'd not be shocked if they were straight out of your RL manifesto). Marks for design but few for originality.

    Liberals - Lazy design but okay policies. I will however point that your housing SOI may have passed, but not a bill. Infact i'm not sure other than brothels what you actually passed in bill form.

    Socialists - I must admit that while i find the content repugnant i still do applaud you for the manifesto design. If it was new, you'd win the virtual prize for the design again.
    Agree with most of that - although must admit Labour made some cheap shots at the Tories and UKIP
    And the Tories were a bit heavy handed going on about the 'radical leftist policies' etc.

    What about the National Liberals?
    Or is their manifesto so terrible it's not even worth mentioning?
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)



    Untrue :eek: We'd decrease the lower socioeconomic classes' taxes and increase it on the top end

    You could only do that if there actually was a top end to tax to oblivion.
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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    Only the Greens and the Tories are loading. Any reason for this?

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    DUP virus?

    Only codding It's probably just slow internet connection - works for me
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    DUP virus?

    Only codding It's probably just slow internet connection - works for me
    Wondered what this "broadband" everyone spoke so highly of was.

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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Not my area of expertise - ask TDA or one of the veterans

    One way would've been to set up a thread and ask - we do that in SP

    Untrue :eek: We'd decrease the lower socioeconomic classes' taxes and increase it on the top end

    Agree with most of that - although must admit Labour made some cheap shots at the Tories and UKIP
    And the Tories were a bit heavy handed going on about the 'radical leftist policies' etc.

    What about the National Liberals?
    Or is their manifesto so terrible it's not even worth mentioning?
    The Nat Libs are dead and that's not a manifesto, it's a sentence or two. I do hope Airmed and Neb never reminded them.

    Ha. Your probably too new to realise that during the term the Greens and Labour are hippies, but come election time they are as i proclaim 'radical communists'.
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    You could only do that if there actually was a top end to tax to oblivion.
    As Healy once said.. tax them until the pips squeak.
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    You could only do that if there actually was a top end to tax to oblivion.
    No - you do realise that at one time, the very very top end was 98% taxed?
    We're not intending to do that but it's just a fun fact
    Also with EU pressure we can force corporations to pay their taxes and clamp down on this Double Irish arrangement/Dutch sandwich/Isle of Wight scamming Jammy Duel
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    God no! Why would I show anyone my policies?

    That ladies and gentleman is exactly what the other parties have done. Here, let's evaluate the other parties pledges:

    Greens: 15. Nothing on the Economy, Foreign Affairs or Defence
    National Liberals: Are you actually kidding me?
    Conservatives: 5. 5 measly policies. You guys really do like looking to the past huh?
    Labour 7: Hardly better than the Tories. Reference Tory Tax Credit cuts even though they aren't canon. What happened to us not using real life parties to score political points?
    UKIP: 19. Again, Nothing on the Economy, Education, Health. Gone for Quantity over Quality.
    Socialists: 10. Missed out health and pretty much copied half of your last manifesto.

    Liberals: 17. A large amount but a mixed bag of different policies telling you, the voter, what you can expect in each policy area.

    What do the other leaders have to say for themselves?
    Underpromising and overdelivering is better than the entire party being photographed with signed manifesto commitments not to raise tuition fees before trebling them. The Liberal manifesto certainly makes the widest range of promises. Your error is in assuming that this is necessarily something to be proud of.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    As Healy once said.. tax them until the pips squeak.
    It's rather silly.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Ha. Your probably too new to realise that during the term the Greens and Labour are hippies, but come election time they are as i proclaim 'radical communists'.
    Good one
    Wait, if they're radical communists, what are the Socialists? :eek:
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    PetrosAC As you commented, this is the full length UKIP manifesto before being cut down to meet the word limit, the edited second half it to come.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    The Nat Libs are dead and that's not a manifesto, it's a sentence or two. I do hope Airmed and Neb never reminded them.
    'A manifesto is a published verbal declaration of the intentions, motives, or views of the issuer, be it an individual, group, political party or government.'
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    PetrosAC As you commented, this is the full length UKIP manifesto before being cut down to meet the word limit, the edited second half it to come.
    Cheers will have a read now


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