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British schoolgirl who ran away to Syria with her two friends dies in airstrike. Watch

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    (Original post by Achaea)
    It's far worse than that. It's the equivalent of a young woman in 1943 watching Nazi propaganda videos showing the gassing, torture and mass murder of Jews and deciding 'oh yeah, I want some of that' and rushing off to occupied Poland to shack up with one of the SS murderers responsible and to play a role in the atrocities. I wonder if anyone would have expressed sympathy with that young woman if she'd been killed in an Allied airstrike or if anyone would have said 'oh well, she just got radicalised by Nazism, it's obviously partly our fault for letting this happen', but I doubt it. It only ever seems to be Muslims who cannot be held fully responsible for what they do.
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    (Original post by champ_mc99)
    I didn't say the girl getting killed was CP. Or am I misunderstanding?
    I misunderstood. My apologies.

    If you don't want a serial killer to face death but you're inflating balloons when a girl who probably hasn't committed any acts of physical violence (let alone killing someone) is killed, it's pretty contradictory imo.
    Only if you were opposed to the death penalty chiefly on pacifistic grounds. There are those of us who are opposed for other reasons, e.g. we don't believe the state should have this power over citizens, or think the likelihood of wrongful convictions for capital crimes is too high, and so on.

    In what way? You're for CP or against the partying?
    Neither. I'm opposed to capital punishment and indifferent to the celebrations. But I'm arguing in favour of something that would seem to defend/legitimise the partying, hence it's devil's advocacy of a kind.
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
    I misunderstood. My apologies.



    Only if you were opposed to the death penalty chiefly on pacifistic grounds. There are those of us who are opposed for other reasons, e.g. we don't believe the state should have this power over citizens, or think the likelihood of wrongful convictions in capital crimes is too high, and so on.



    Neither. I'm opposed to capital punishment and indifferent to the celebrations. But I'm arguing in favour of something that would seem to defend/legitimise the partying, hence it's devil's advocacy of a kind.
    Alright fair enough. But yes I was thinking more about those against the death penalty primarily on pacifistic grounds and who don't believe in retribution.
 
 
 
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