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    Jammy Duel, Independent candidate
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    TSR Conservative and Unionist Party
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    TSR Labour Party
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    TheBigMan2, Independent candidate
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    TSR Liberal Party
    26
    17.33%
    TSR Socialist Party
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    An Australian-style points system does not increase immigration, it controls the number of immigrants by changing the criteria to earn points, and the number of points needed to earn a visa. A sensible number is the number needed when a study has been conducted to find Britain's reliance on skilled immigration, when Britain's reliance on skilled immigration is known a number can be given.
    OK. What if you find out that this number is maybe even higher than the current number of immigrants in this study? What would you do then? Ignore it?
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    (Original post by RayApparently)

    Tory: A lovely design inkeeping with the theme of previous manifestos.
    Translation: 'Oh. My. God. Change your ****ing manifesto design already!!!'

    Am I right?
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    Right. Time for some questions. I have to say, I think all the manifestos look great.

    Jammy Duel - your manifesto is the hardest to read but the background is strangely hypnotic. Your activity in the MHoC is commendable and I admire your bravery to stand against your own party. One thing that it is rather irritating in your manifesto however are the typos (fiarer and faieer). Some quite funky spellings going on there. Anyway, I have some questions:

    1) How will you support freedom of speech?
    2) What disincentives would you use to deter people from taking dangeous substances?
    3) How will you support the police and military?
    4) Why have you decided to stand against your own party?
    5) If you get elected as an MP, will you remain as an independent or join another party?


    mobbsy91 - the Conservatives are the 'defending champions' of the General Election and I must say, in general your party has had a decent term. You had a very slow start to the term but your performance appears to have picked up as the term has progressed. Your manifesto creates a strong sense of déjà vu. I have no idea why. :rolleyes: Here are some questions:

    1) How would you distinguish yourself from Jammy Duel?
    2) What do you mean by 'core lifesaving services'? Are you pledging to increase funding for treatment programmes or A&E or something completely different?
    3) Would you say your vision for the future of the Conservatives differs significantly to that of your predecessor?
    4) I would say that failing to pass the Finance Bill was a blow to your party. Do you believe this hgihlights the MHoC's lack of confidence in Conservative economic policies?
    5) Last term there were a few cases of Conservative party members publicly attacking your coalition partner, the Liberals. Would you not agree that this could deter potential coalition partners in the future?




    TheBigMan2 - for someone who is so new to the MHoC, I commend you on your decision to stand in the General Election. I wish you all the best with your campaign. Here are some questions:

    1) Would you say that being so new to the MHoC could count against you?
    2) Why should people vote for you as opposed to parties with a similar political stance such as the Conservatives and UKIP?
    3) Why did you choose to stand as an independent and not join a party?
    4) You mention that you want to make sure interest rates are kept below 1%. This decision normally lies with the Bank of England so how would you ensure they did what you want them to?
    5) You mention 'post-Brexit Britain'. Would you say that the decision to leave the EU has changed your stance on certain policies?


    PetrosAC - the Liberals haven't had the best term but it's been ok. You've lost several key members and your legislation output appears to have been poor. I have to say though, I really like the design of your manifesto. Here are some questions:

    1) You've stated several times that your party will not be in Government under any condition this term. Can you promise to the franchise that you will not be in Government this term?
    2) How do you aim to close tax loopholes?
    3) You mention creating garden cities, one of the promises you broke. Will this pledge keep being repeated at every General Election?
    4) Why would you invest in Northern cities in particular?
    5) As Nigel pointed out recently, you've only managed to achieve 2 out of the 12 promises you made at the last General Election. What's your excuse for this and how can you guarantee that you won't break promises in the term ahead?


    DMcGovern cranbrook_aspie - the Socialists have had an outstanding term with regards to legislation and it has been good to work with you on the occasional project too. I like the professional look of your manifesto and of course agree with the majority of the content. :cool: Here are some questions:

    1) You are obviously one of two left-wing parties standing in this election, along with Labour. Why should a left-wing TSR member who is unsure how to vote, vote for you instead of Labour?
    2) Do you believe there should be a limit to how much trade union power should be increased by?
    3) When you say 'increase NHS funding', are there any specific areas you want to invest in?
    4) What sustainable energies would you invest in and why?
    5) Do you believe your small number of active members could help or hinder you next term?


    Unown Uzer - UKIP seems to have had a steady term despite losing a few of its members. I have to admit though, I did prefer the look of the manifesto at the last GE. Here are some questions:

    1) Your reason why people shouldn't vote for Labour is because they are 'drug abusers' and have 'admitted to commiting lewd and lascivious acts in public'. Where is the evidence for this and why is it relevant to this election?
    2) Immigration does seem to play a key role in your policies, both in the legislation you've created this term and in your manifesto. What would you say to those who believe UKIP's focus is too narrow?
    3) What would, in your opinion, be a 'sensible number' for immigration levels.
    4) Is it true that UKIP tried to set up a ConUKIP coalition in the middle of this term?
    5) TSR UKIP appears to be quite a right-wing party. Is this is a fair assumption and if so, are you planning for your party to stay like this for the forseeable future?



    Green Party - your manifesto is a class above the others and I commend you for the hard effort put in. Here are some questions:

    1) Why
    2) Haven't
    3) You
    4) Submitted
    5) A Manifesto?



    I will be interested to hear all your responses.
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    (Original post by MrMackyTv)
    OK. What if you find out that this number is maybe even higher than the current number of immigrants in this study? What would you do then? Ignore it?
    That is bad logic, if Britain's reliance on immigration was higher than the current number of immigrants that would imply Britain has a shortage of skilled labour for lots of job, there would be mass unemployed in industries where skilled labour is needed, and Britain's economy would fail: clearly none of that is happening meaning the number cannot be higher.
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    JD - Surprized you are standing as a indie , i like the content of the it

    Conservative - Same old layout , same old content

    Labour and Soc - Nice Layout and design , the only thing to let it down is the content

    Liberals - Do you even brother to make a new one ?

    UKIP - Poor Design and content ... I am not responsible for this and my suggestions were blanked ... please pass any comments to UU
    The content is different....its just the design that's the same


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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    That is bad logic, if Britain's reliance on immigration was higher than the current number of immigrants that would imply Britain has a shortage of skilled labour for lots of job, there would be mass unemployed in industries where skilled labour is needed, and Britain's economy would fail: clearly none of that is happening meaning the number cannot be higher.
    How is it bad logic if a study says that no, the current number does meet the need of Britain or no, a higher number will be needed?

    What is bad logic is to think we do not have shortages already, especially in the public sector. Such as the NHS and education. You can't turn a blind eye to these problems and shout "bad logic" at something that's factually correct...
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    (Original post by jamestg)
    The liberal party is so inactive, I'm sure PetrosAC wasn't asistered in making a new one.

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    this was terrible I'm sorry, it's been a long day

    That was shocking mate xD


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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    Conservative - Same old layout , same old content
    The layout has changed...
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Translation: 'Oh. My. God. Change your ****ing manifesto design already!!!'

    Am I right?
    There may have been a hint of that to it. But I can't really blame them for sticking to it - it's a bloody nice design. At least they change the content and layout a bit.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
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    You haven't commented on the greens
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    Liberals - Do you even brother to make a new one ?
    Yes.
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    Some strong and well-designed manifestos here. Probably comes as no surprise I'll be supporting the Liberals but I wish everyone well.
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    (Original post by 04MR17)
    You haven't commented on the greens
    The what?
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    There may have been a hint of that to it. But I can't really blame them for sticking to it - it's a bloody nice design. At least they change the content and layout a bit.
    They've managed to make it look like an official rl Conservative thing, which is clever of them I suppose.
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    @mobbsy91 - the Conservatives are the 'defending champions' of the General Election and I must say, in general your party has had a decent term. You had a very slow start to the term but your performance appears to have picked up as the term has progressed. Your manifesto creates a strong sense of déjà vu. I have no idea why. Here are some questions: 1) How would you distinguish yourself from Jammy Duel? 2) What do you mean by 'core lifesaving services'? Are you pledging to increase funding for treatment programmes or A&E or something completely different? 3) Would you say your vision for the future of the Conservatives differs significantly to that of your predecessor? 4) I would say that failing to pass the Finance Bill was a blow to your party. Do you believe this hgihlights the MHoC's lack of confidence in Conservative economic policies? 5) Last term there were a few cases of Conservative party members publicly attacking your coalition partner, the Liberals. Would you not agree that this could deter potential coalition partners in the future?
    1) Jammy is very particular in his views - if it's not what he wants or what he believes, then that's it. As a Party, I think we're more economically aligned with Jammy, but socially we're more varied in the Party. Perhaps you should be asking Jammy, how he's different to us
    2) Kind of what it says - services, procedures, operations, whatever you want to call them, which save lives. More time and money should be dedicated to these kind of procedures, as well as mental health, a big big killer. I don't think at the moment there's a clear idea of where the money/time would go, but I think we all know of many ways more time/money could help.
    3) Not massively. Ultimately, we both want our Party to succeed, have active members, and produce great legislation which passes, but strongly supports the free market. We're both also relatively liberal socially, especially looking at drugs, euthanasia, although I am perhaps more in favour of corporal punishment/death penalty than he is!
    4) No - if the Finance Bill had gone to vote after the latest by-election, it's very possible it would have passed. I think there is enough variation in all Parties, that depending on when you put something forward, depending on which MPs are voting (or proxies) at any time, that can sway the result. There was 1 vote in it. I maintain that it was an excellent Finance Bill, and could have passed this term, if done at a different time. I also think it may have been one or two small parts of it, which turned people off, and perhaps with few minor changes, the result may have been very different indeed.
    5) Perhaps - I maintain that if you're going to attack someone like that, it should've been done either in the Gov sub, or via PM. Iirc, one of those members has resigned from our Party. But let's remember, we all have lots of stabs at each other. All I'll say to any potential future partners, is that if us getting annoyed about the lack of activity of our partners, it just shows that we're committed to making a coalition work, but that we are going to be working hard to make it work, and we expect our partner to do the same.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    The what?
    You know. Those tree-hugging ones. You could either put:

    Greens - N/A :eviltongue:

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    Greens - minimalist :yep:
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    (Original post by 04MR17)
    You know. Those tree-hugging ones. You could either put:

    Greens - N/A :eviltongue:

    or:

    Greens - minimalist :yep:
    We were going for postmodern chic, actually.

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    No greens?! Does this mean they can finally be killed!!!
    Also mobbsy91 will you be taking JD back when he doesn't win?
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    (Original post by Birchington)
    Some strong and well-designed manifestos here. Probably comes as no surprise I'll be supporting the Liberals but I wish everyone well.
    Your avatar is red and fiery, you should be supporting us
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    That was shocking mate xD


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    I need to up my game
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    (Original post by MrMackyTv)
    I didn't say it was a bad thing...

    And I wasn't misunderstanding anything. I was asking a question. Some people believe that an Australian-style immigration system wouldn't work here - that question does not hint at any lack of understanding.
    The only reason it wouldn't work is because of liberals crying about illegals being deported and governments caving. The US also have a successful system for controlling legal migration not dissimilar to the Australian system, their problem is having a really long land border and lots of crying liberals.
 
 
 
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