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    (Original post by DeeeDoubleYou)
    Hello all,,

    Congrats and condolences to all. This is my third year applying and I finally have a place - with lower scores than last year! I know it's disheartening - I have been miserable for the last 3 years of applications, but the best is advice is probably never to lose hope...

    I'm currently working in the Sheffield Genetics labs and will be going to Genomic Counselling in Sheffield instead.

    Which of you are the genomics and bioinformatics trainees in Sheffield? Would be good to chat - the three of you will be together but I'll be on my own!


    AND student discount.
    Congratulations on a place. Particularly after persevering for so many years. I hope you enjoy the training and find the other Sheffield trainees soon.
    Would you mind sharing your scores so I can compare mine please?
    Obviously don't feel obliged if you don't want to.
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    (Original post by Hurriya23)
    I have called them they placed me on hold for ages and came back to me saying we take imto account many factors and cant disclose the recruitment process but they did clarify that they do not differentiaite with the shortlisting score. They cant give more information than that apparently. thank you and not long at all but this year may just drag now. How did it go for you?
    Placing you on hold for ages only to come back with that answer seems a bit unnecessary...
    I'm a bit confused as to why they're not willing to say how they differentiate in the event of a tie. Especially as it is reasonable for people to be curious when interview scores for many specialisms have been so very close. But I suppose they have their reasons.
    Still I'm disappointed for you that you didn't get an answer. Perhaps it is worth getting the interview feedback in case it's got some helpful pointers for future interviews.
    I did quite badly, but I've made my peace with it and am going to request the feedback so that I can try to improve my performance at interviews :-).
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    (Original post by stoopatroopa)
    Placing you on hold for ages only to come back with that answer seems a bit unnecessary...
    I'm a bit confused as to why they're not willing to say how they differentiate in the event of a tie. Especially as it is reasonable for people to be curious when interview scores for many specialisms have been so very close. But I suppose they have their reasons.
    Still I'm disappointed for you that you didn't get an answer. Perhaps it is worth getting the interview feedback in case it's got some helpful pointers for future interviews.
    I did quite badly, but I've made my peace with it and am going to request the feedback so that I can try to improve my performance at interviews :-).
    Hey, do you know how we request feedback? and if we have to pay?
    Thanks
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    (Original post by MagicTurtle)
    Hey, do you know how we request feedback? and if we have to pay?
    Thanks
    There was a post earlier in this thread (possibly about 5-10 pages back) with an email address. I wrote an email to them yesterday evening so I will let you know here if I hear anything back.
    That previous post also said that payment was not required this year.

    [email protected] sorry for delay. On my phone so it was a bit awkward. Previous poster said they were advised to put their request formalky in writing to this email address.
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    Anyone going to Shrewsbury/Telford?
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    Anyone got any idea on when we find out things like uni start date (for the 6-8 week block), how to sort out accomodation etc. I am going to be in Newcastle and so can't commute from Manchester. I need to work out how much I need to save to be able to pay for my accomodation in Newcastle for 8 weeks plus the rent on my current flat in Manchester!
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    (Original post by welly909)
    Congrats! Where is your offer for?
    Russells hall hospital in Dudley
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    (Original post by stoopatroopa)
    Placing you on hold for ages only to come back with that answer seems a bit unnecessary...
    I'm a bit confused as to why they're not willing to say how they differentiate in the event of a tie. Especially as it is reasonable for people to be curious when interview scores for many specialisms have been so very close. But I suppose they have their reasons.
    Still I'm disappointed for you that you didn't get an answer. Perhaps it is worth getting the interview feedback in case it's got some helpful pointers for future interviews.
    I did quite badly, but I've made my peace with it and am going to request the feedback so that I can try to improve my performance at interviews :-).

    Reasons that are making all of us go crazy in the meantime, may be the test scores dont know how they work it out, i will be requestimg feedback just to see how i can improve myself if i choose to apply again next year. Sorry to hear that you did amazing even getting to this stage and so many success stories for people who have given it a second shot maybe that could be us next year.
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    (Original post by stoopatroopa)
    Congratulations on a place. Particularly after persevering for so many years. I hope you enjoy the training and find the other Sheffield trainees soon.
    Would you mind sharing your scores so I can compare mine please?
    Obviously don't feel obliged if you don't want to.
    Sure thing.

    Genomic Counselling - 50/60 for shortlisting, 41/50 for interview, ranked 8th.
    Genomics - 47/60 for shortlisting, reserve list, no interview.

    Oddly, in 2015...

    Genetics/Genomics - 57(/69?) for shortlisting, reserve list.
    Genomics/Bioinformatics - 46 shortlisting, no reserve.

    So it seems I haven't done much better overall but have managed to get a place this year despite not even reaching interviews last year. My application this year blew last year's out of the water (in my view, particularly as I'd worked in the field for 2 years by this point), so not really sure how I didn't go up a point or two for genomics. Perhaps the tone of my application leaned more towards Counselling. It was what I had *really* wanted anyway, but I could never get past interviews for the Manchester or Cardiff postgrad courses, so the STP has worked out really well for me.

    DON'T HATE ME.
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    (Original post by chloep1989)
    Anyone got any idea on when we find out things like uni start date (for the 6-8 week block), how to sort out accomodation etc. I am going to be in Newcastle and so can't commute from Manchester. I need to work out how much I need to save to be able to pay for my accomodation in Newcastle for 8 weeks plus the rent on my current flat in Manchester!
    Could you sub let your flat in Manchester to an STP trainee who has their msc at Manchester / Manchester met?
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    Slightly off topic but appropriate for the audience:

    You may have heard of the consultation for dropping nursing bursaries in favour of loans as a way of increasing access and equality. You may also know that this is not limited to nursing but also radiographers. Did you know they are looking to implement a similar thing across many more groups? Potentially including STP?

    They acknowledge we currently would not be eligible for the£10,000 loan for a post grad masters and so are asking for ideas on how we could fund our living and learning costs.

    If you feel you would like to contribute to the consultation then please check out the links below.

    The case for funding reform:
    https://www.gov.uk/government/consul...funding-reform

    The consultation:
    https://consultations.dh.gov.uk/work...cation-funding
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    (Original post by welly909)
    Could you sub let your flat in Manchester to an STP trainee who has their msc at Manchester / Manchester met?
    That would have been a great idea but my boyfriend lives there! And he can't afford the rent on his own (and neither can I) just such a pain. At least I am getting some redundency money from my current job!
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    (Original post by chloep1989)
    That would have been a great idea but my boyfriend lives there! And he can't afford the rent on his own (and neither can I) just such a pain. At least I am getting some redundency money from my current job!
    That's a shame. I think a lot off people are going to be in a similar boat. I'm going to move to Cambridge from London but it seems a bit pointless finding a flat straight away if almost immediately I have to leave and pay rent somewhere else almost straight away!
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    (Original post by welly909)
    Could you sub let your flat in Manchester to an STP trainee who has their msc at Manchester / Manchester met?
    It also depends if we're all at uni at the same time too :/
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    (Original post by chloep1989)
    Anyone got any idea on when we find out things like uni start date (for the 6-8 week block), how to sort out accomodation etc. I am going to be in Newcastle and so can't commute from Manchester. I need to work out how much I need to save to be able to pay for my accomodation in Newcastle for 8 weeks plus the rent on my current flat in Manchester!
    My brother is doing medical physics at the moment and accommodation went on expenses (not sure if it varies from trust to trust) he stayed in a cheap b&b Monday to Friday and came home on weekends but he said some of his course mates had managed to sort out short term lets together or were lodging with a family. I guess if you wanted to do a short term let you could probably find housemates on here
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    (Original post by welly909)
    That's a shame. I think a lot off people are going to be in a similar boat. I'm going to move to Cambridge from London but it seems a bit pointless finding a flat straight away if almost immediately I have to leave and pay rent somewhere else almost straight away!
    I am in a similar boat. I have to travel to Nottingham from London! very hard to decide what to do as I have to leave my husband behind!
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    (Original post by Techguy379)
    OL . Hello nice to meet you.I don't have any information whatsoever (I'm not from England and have been here for around 8 months only) , so it was a blind pick for me. If I may ask how is the bioinformatics node in Sheffield ? Do you have any ideas. Is the university good ? What type of town is Sheffield (student, industrial etc.) What is the price of living on average/monthly basis there , aka. accommodation, food, Internet XD ?
    Sorry - I think you misunderstood. I am in Hull not Sheffield, and doing Med Phys not bioinformatics!
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    For anyone who will have to travel for uni, In terms of accommodation for your uni blocks, many trusts have a training budget for you that can be used to pay for that, as well as attending training courses, meetings and conferences etc. You might have to shell out for it first and then claim it back, which is a pain, but it's better than nothing - once you have confirmation of your employment and your uni place (you'll be asked to enrol at some point), it's worth getting in touch to ask about it. Luckily I'm based in Birmingham for both my training post and university so I didn't have to use mine, but some of our cohort do have to travel quite a distance and I'm pretty sure they've managed to claim the money for accommodation back.

    Maybe when you all know about your uni dates you could arrange house shares? I think AirBnB was used by a lot of people last year to find places. Or you can ask the uni what they recommend but this can sometimes be expensive so look around a bit - if you use all of your training budget on accommodation for uni, you won't have it for going to conferences and things like that, so try and spend as little as you can on accommodation (whilst choosing somewhere fit for purpose, of course!). If your courses are like mine (Biochem at Birmingham), once the initial first year block (ours was 4 weeks) is over, you only have to go back for a week or two at a time.
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    (Original post by stp2015)
    Those getting confused between why they got an interview this year but not last with similar shortlisting scores - the shortlisting last year was out of 69, this year it is out of 60. So you can't really compare shortlisting scores between the years.

    Looks like just 1 or 2 points at interview gives a massive difference in the ranks. So relieved given how close it all looks!

    It is also great about them removing the charge for interview feedback and giving it electronically - last year was all by post and took forever.
    Ahh that makes sense! I didn't realise it was out of 69 last year and 60 this year. The interview scores are so close! I'll be interested to see the feedback too
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    Some trusts also have buying departments, that with prior arrangement from management (easier if they have already had an STP) they can book/pay for things in advance.
    Some trusts have guidelines about where you can stay and how much they are willing to pay so check that before booking anywhere. Some trusts wont pay rent for staying at a friends for example, they may not pay for weekends also so if you are renting a place for 6 weeks they would pay for 30 nights.

    Again it will all depend on the trust and individual circumstance
 
 
 
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