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(Original post by MoMatrix)
It now appears that he was unarmed .Why not shoot him in the leg and give him a trial if he even was responsible for 9/11?

(Original post by JoeLatics)
Yes, yes, yes!

He was unarmed. That's murder in my books.
Several sources say that he was reaching for a weapon at the time of his death.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor..._Raid_Will_Not

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/interna...aBxwPj3uzrAzfM

And even if this weren't the case, it could have been a strong possibility that he was wearing some a bomb so that when the SEALS tried to physically restrain him they would have all died as he would not have wanted to be taken alive.

Morals are easy when you're sat at home. Try applying them after a 40 minute firefight where your target could blow you up within seconds.
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I think that it is important to look at the situation from the viewpoint of those people - and there are many - who supported or agreed with bin Laden. We may not agree with their views, but they are entitled to their opinions and their response to the recent events is likely to affect us.

Imagine how you would feel if a group of Al-Qaeda supporters, or soldiers, 'sneaked' into the UK, attacked a house in part of a city because someone important (such as the Prime Minister, or a member of the Royal Family, or an ex-PM, such as Tony Blair) lived there, shot this person and a number of their friends and family. If that happened you might be really annoyed and feel that something should be done to retaliate against the people who did it and the country that they came from.

Just bear that in mind next time you feel like celebrating the death of this man - however much you dislike him or his politics.
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(Original post by Arceus)
1.If you resist arrest you have just start a fight and just raised your status condition from "Capture or Kill" to "Shoot to kill".Plus I heard the mission was a "Shoot to kill" anyway.
Presuming it was a shoot to kill operation, why were all the other members found in the compound all killed aswell? Surely they can't all be posing a threat to the armed US officials?
2.What he and others have commit are war crimes even against your own kind, so basically I don't think any country would have care if he died because he cause much death in the world already.
This is more of a reason why solid proof of his death needs to be provided to the public. The operation was planned from several months ago, America didn't correspond with Pakistan about the mission, nor Britain nor any other public hence why they need to provide evidence when they make such a claim out of the blue.
3.Think of what happen if he was captured? Attempts on his life by other Americans, Al-Qaeda would want trade other humans lives for Osama's life . There is also many other reasons but at the end he has been shot and now the problem ahead is "Do we still give money to Pakistan even if they have may or may not been harboring a terrorist.
He could have been hanged the day after his arrest had he been captured and his family could have been detained.
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You are literally ridiculously naive. Please shut up, you are boring and annoying.

Common sense says you wouldn't keep a bomb in your house? Rofl .. my god.. just proves how naive you are. He is former leader of the Al Qeada, the world's most wanted man.. a man who would rather die than be captured.. please for the love of god explain to me in your intelligent ways how it was stupid to think he may have a bomb.
He was a retired family man. 10 years since he had been last active, reports say he lived in the compound for 5 years, no one in their right mind would keep a bomb inside their home for that long for fear of putting their family's life at risk.
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(Original post by Dekota-XS)
He was a retired family man. 10 years since he had been last active, reports say he lived in the compound for 5 years, no one in their right mind would keep a bomb inside their home for that long for fear of putting their family's life at risk.
Your ridiculous naivety comes into force here.

He lived with many other people. How do you think he got food? How do you think those people got guns?

They are members of the Al Qeada for god sake.. he could of had a bomb for 5 years.. he could of had it for 5 days.

'The operation was planned from several months ago, America didn't correspond with Pakistan about the mission,'

If you knew ANYTHING AT ALL. You wouldn't even mention this.

Please just go away, you're arguments are terrible and pathetic and you essentially don't have a clue what you are talking about.
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(Original post by Dekota-XS)
He was a retired family man. 10 years since he had been last active, reports say he lived in the compound for 5 years, no one in their right mind would keep a bomb inside their home for that long for fear of putting their family's life at risk.
I like the way you make out he was some sort of peaceful retired family man going down to the post office once a week for his pension. He was the worlds most wanted man, he has said he would rather die than be taken priosner, I think its totally reasonable to assume he may have been armed with a bomb. There are retired people in the States who keep firearms in their houses for their defense, and quite a few of the gun nuts on here would like to in the UK too because they see the UK as such a hotbed of violence and crime. He was in a different part of the world to the UK, things are a little different over there, a lot more violent, just a look on the news is testament to that. I wish you armchair generals would try to understand that.
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(Original post by Tommyjw)
Your ridiculous naivety comes into force here.

He lived with many other people. How do you think he got food? How do you think those people got guns?

They are members of the Al Qeada for god sake.. he could of had a bomb for 5 years.. he could of had it for 5 days.

'The operation was planned from several months ago, America didn't correspond with Pakistan about the mission,'

If you knew ANYTHING AT ALL. You wouldn't even mention this.

Please just go away, you're arguments are terrible and pathetic and you essentially don't have a clue what you are talking about.
Let me make this clear, my view on this is that the compound was empty from the outset, none of the locals there saw him within those five years, on the contrary, the locals claim that it would have been difficult for him to live there for that long and go unnoticed. I'm assuming what has been claimed so far as true in order to refute your arguments.

Those people didn't get guns because they were later found to be unarmed. The compound had no firearms in it nor a bomb.

Why are you trying to defend Osama's death when you can't provide any evidence?
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(Original post by Dekota-XS)
Let me make this clear, my view on this is that the compound was empty from the outset, none of the locals there saw him within those five years, on the contrary, the locals claim that it would have been difficult for him to live there for that long and go unnoticed. I'm assuming what has been claimed so far as true in order to refute your arguments.

Those people didn't get guns because they were later found to be unarmed. The compound had no firearms in it nor a bomb.
Because he did not leave.. it really is not hard to understand.

Do you understand how the caught him? By following his brothers, someone spotted him and thus they 'followed' them until they have compelling evidence Osama was there too.

WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT :facepalm:
Osama may have been unarmed, but the others were armed.. there was 40 minutes of gun fighting ¬_¬

Just go away, you truly are a pathetic troll. Either that or you don't actually like to watch/read anything about it and just like to be incredibly naive, your choice which one it is
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The main reason why they shot him is because he had dealings with the Bush family/government before 9/11. If that was discovered in an international court, Bush could have also been tried and would have raised serious questions about the US presidency's dealings with terrorists. Plus the fact it would have damaged the image and reputation of the US even more.

Either than that, it now seems the US government is just digging their hole deeper and deeper as they are constantly changing story lines on how he was shot - the latest story change suggests that Bin laden was killed unarmed and his wife was NOT trying to protect him.
This is indirectly making Bin Laden look like the victim here no doubt, plus the fact they have yet to release any evidence that he was actually killed.
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The main reason why they shot him is because he had dealings with the Bush family/government before 9/11. If that was discovered in an international court, Bush could have also been tried and would have raised serious questions about the US presidency's dealings with terrorists. Plus the fact it would have damaged the image and reputation of the US even more.

Either than that, it now seems the US government is just digging their hole deeper and deeper as they are constantly changing story lines on how he was shot - the latest story change suggests that Bin laden was killed unarmed and his wife was NOT trying to protect him.
This is indirectly making Bin Laden look like the victim here no doubt, plus the fact they have yet to release any evidence that he was actually killed.
Prove it.. oh wait.. you can't? How silly of me to assume you could prove any of the BS you say.
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He was unarmed and holding a woman as a human shield.

They could have brought him in if they really wanted to.
Says the person who wasn't there. He was refusing to surrender and was using a woman as a human shield, he was resisting.
I don't think you could ever be sure that they could have brought him in. You can only speculate.

(Original post by Phobia27)
If he went into custody there would be an increase in terror risks and hostages being held for the release of Bin Laden.
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Could't be done. Would have lead to loads of kidnappings to try to bargain for him.
This
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It now appears that he was unarmed .Why not shoot him in the leg and give him a trial if he even was responsible for 9/11?
Far to dangerous. Al Quedia would start kidnapping every western in sight.

The trial would be a farce and become a platform for his toxic ramblings. No trial would ever be accepted by many people ether. Terrorists would claim it was a kangaroo court ect.
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I think they should have at least tried to get some information out of him before killing him, I mean he was the leader of a major terrorist organisation! Even if he wouldn't have disclosed anything.
I personally agree with the OP , but America needed a morale boost and for once people can celebrate the bad guy getting 'what he deserves.'

Though Donald Trump poses a bigger danger to the US now...
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I think they should have at least tried to get some information out of him before killing him, I mean he was the leader of a major terrorist organisation! Even if he wouldn't have disclosed anything.
I personally agree with the OP , but America needed a morale boost and for once people can celebrate the bad guy getting 'what he deserves.'

Though Donald Trump poses a bigger danger to the US now...
When the world's most wanted man is sat in a room.. and you have no idea whether he has a bomb.. or will reach for a gun hidden under what he is wearing.. i highly doubt a team of seals who have been getting shot at for 40 minutes would sit and wait around :P
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(Original post by Tommyjw)
Prove it.. oh wait.. you can't? How silly of me to assume you could prove any of the BS you say.
Haha! I knew you would reply back to me with a politically correct view of things!

You, like most around here, seem to buy any old toss the media throws at us. The Bush family had business connections with the Bin laden family. Its not official because it would THREATEN the US Governments reputation ACROSS THE WHOLE WORLD. Does it not strike your thick skull?
If the people of the US found out they couldn't even trust their government anymore, it would lead to Anarchy!

You should ask yourself: Why attack Iraq instead when all the terrorists who initiated the disaster during 9/11 were ALL SAUDI ARABIAN?

We all know history from then on. No WMDs were found and the Iraq War was based on lie. Ofcourse, you might say otherwise. :rolleyes:
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(Original post by slavetosociety)
Haha! I knew you would reply back to me with a politically correct view of things!

You, like most around here, seem to buy any old toss the media throws at us. The Bush family had business connections with the Bin laden family. Its not official because it would THREATEN the US Governments reputation ACROSS THE WHOLE WORLD. Does it not strike your thick skull?

You should ask yourself: Why attack Iraq instead when all the terrorists who initiated the disaster during 9/11 were ALL SAUDI ARABIAN?

We all know histroy from then on. No WMDs were found and the Iraq War was based on lie. Ofcourse, you might say otherwise. :rolleyes:
OH right ok yes.
Me = Believe the president, US (and other world) officials
You = Believe a youtube video, make up nonsense, believe a random website.

I wonder who is the weird person here :rolleyes:

Bless, silly little tin hat people.
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(Original post by slavetosociety)
You, like most around here, seem to buy any old toss the media throws at us. The Bush family had business connections with the Bin laden family. Its not official because it would THREATEN the US Governments reputation ACROSS THE WHOLE WORLD. Does it not strike your thick skull?
If the people of the US found out they couldn't even trust their government anymore, it would lead to Anarchy!
Is this not what falsifying Osamas death would also do to their reputation? Do you not think if it turned out to be false that Pakistan could see what happened as an act of war? Obama definately wouldn't risk that.
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OH right ok yes.
Me = Believe the president, US (and other world) officials
You = Believe a youtube video, make up nonsense, believe a random website.

I wonder who is the weird person here :rolleyes:

Bless, silly little tin hat people.
You know, its really no point in arguing with close minded people like you who put their whole trust in a system which is inherently corrupted by corrupt politicians and bureaucrats.
I think I can speak for every 1 billion muslims around the world (and I am not muslim!) that the Iraq war was based around a LIE and that the Bush Family indeed had connections with the Saudis and the Bin ladens.
Come back to me when you have a bigger support mate and then lets see who's wearing the tin foil hat :rolleyes:
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You know, its really no point in arguing with close minded people like you who put their whole trust in a system which is inherently corrupted by corrupt politicians and bureaucrats.
I think I can speak for every 1 billion muslims around the world (and I am not muslim!) that the Iraq war was based around a LIE and that the Bush Family indeed had connections with the Saudis and the Bin ladens.
Come back to me when you have a bigger support mate and then lets see who's wearing the tin foil hat :rolleyes:
Rofl ok.
So you don't believe anything in the news.. anything politicians say.. and you believe all these THEORIES (Yes, that's right.. not sure if you understand.. but none of your made up little things have been proven in any way) and you say i'm simple minded?

Funny :rolleyes:
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if they captured him, people would go after him, increasing terror risks
what other kind of punishment to you propose
we knew he was guilty
what jury is ever going to find him innocent?
the soldiers would have been at a lot more risk trying to get him out alive, what about security?
personally, i think it would have caused a greater uproar but according to my mother i am 'very harsh' in most of my opinions
He's always said he wasn't behind 9/11.

Plus it's the principle of putting him trial, we live in a so called democratic society where people have the right to innocence until proven guilty.

America is the worlds number one terroist.
Half a million people have died in Iraq.
Countless in Afganistan.
Theres a silent war with Pakistan.
Imperial war in Libya.

How many innocents do you think the capitalist powers of the world have killed people because of their own interests and capital gain?
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