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    (Original post by Cassandra_Z)
    I get where your coming from, but really we have an electoral college. We don't exactly have the democracy like everyone believes it to be. Our government isn't perfect and in alot of ways I know our society isn't either, but for someone to bash another immediately because of the country that I live in is ridiculous to me. And believe me I know alot of U.S. citizens are also guilty, but if I heard another American doing the same thing to another person from a different country I would tell them to stop also.
    :rolleyes: I greatly respect that and many others will do to .
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    (Original post by lovely_me)
    No you're not. You're a nation of intolerance, with an illegal war under your belt that you are still fighting so many of your laws are terrible and bordering on lunacy.

    I don't hate America I think it's just a country of poor culture and many ignorant idiots.

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    This is why a lot of people hate Americans. :rolleyes:
    racism yes, intolerance no. They are different. I am very curious to know about your experiences with Americans because you seem to have such strong opinions against us.
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    (Original post by amandacalifornia)
    I actually completely agree with you. Saying loud, rude Americans must be of Italian descent was totally uncalled for and incorrect. As was that comment about British people being unfriendly. I spent most of my first day in London trying to figure out where I was on a map, and several British people stopped to ask me if I needed help.


    We must have had very different European experiences than. I was simply refering to my own. I was born and raised in New Jersey. I grew up around the "New York" Italian Americans and to "stereotype", that was the only group who I could think of in America that would be perceived in that manner. I know many Italian Amerians who are sweet and well-tempered, but the loud, rude, and obnoxious personalities seem very much a part of the culture. There are exceptions to every rule however.
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    (Original post by Cassandra_Z)
    May I know where you live?
    As for the BBC, wow I did not know they actually did that and was funded by the people? I actually watch the channel from time to time, but not for any news. One time I was watching a show where a man created a house completely made of legos. I know, kind of something a child should watch, but I grew up building with the things so I liked it.
    I cannot say anything about Obama.
    That house want built in a vinyard was it? That would be James May's Top Tops, a brilliant show.
    As the the BBC being funded by the taxpayer, its not the only TV channel. The TV Licence money is spent on Public Service Broadcasting - ie news reporting, educational shows, sports that are nationally significant, entertainment and radio output. Part of the reason its so huge as a broadcaster in international terms is that is was set up to cater for the habits of the British people.
    We like football, rugby, motorsport, tennis etc. and in the cases of Wimbledon, Premier League and football league highlights, Six Nations Rugby, Fa Cup, World Cup, and Olympics are put on a special list that means in order to have the rights, it must be made free to air - theoretically any broadcater is eligible to do this - Rupert Murdoch's Sky would easily be able to out bid the BBC for any of those rights, but they would never pay all that money and not have it free to air. The other PSBs are ITV, Channel 4 and Five, all recieving Licence money, and all commerial TV stations. The BBC is still dominant, and even more so in the radio sector.
    Anyway, I actually like the BBC, I may be biased, but its put out high quality progamming in most genres. I dont know if you have something similar in the US.
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    (Original post by ChrisBan)
    I'm quite aware you said move towards communism.

    I'm still confused. What would you rather have... a completely free market health care system where if you got the money, then thats great... but if you don't, you're rejected treatment. Or a system where those who can afford to, pay for their own treatment, and those who can't, receive government assistance?
    The governemnt shouldn't decide based on someones paycheck who gets financial assistance for health care and who doesn't. Why should someone who works very hard (and I am by no means infering that the poor don't work hard) for their money have to pay for some form of treatment, and another who isn't able to earn the same amount of money, gets it free from the government? To me that encourages people to be lazier because they know the government will support them if they can't support themselves. Gov. should support all or none.
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    Was this worth a whole ****ing thread!
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    (Original post by Banburyhammer)
    That house want built in a vinyard was it? That would be James May's Top Tops, a brilliant show.
    As the the BBC being funded by the taxpayer, its not the only TV channel. The TV Licence money is spent on Public Service Broadcasting - ie news reporting, educational shows, sports that are nationally significant, entertainment and radio output. Part of the reason its so huge as a broadcaster in international terms is that is was set up to cater for the habits of the British people.
    We like football, rugby, motorsport, tennis etc. and in the cases of Wimbledon, Premier League and football league highlights, Six Nations Rugby, Fa Cup, World Cup, and Olympics are put on a special list that means in order to have the rights, it must be made free to air - theoretically any broadcater is eligible to do this - Rupert Murdoch's Sky would easily be able to out bid the BBC for any of those rights, but they would never pay all that money and not have it free to air. The other PSBs are ITV, Channel 4 and Five, all recieving Licence money, and all commerial TV stations. The BBC is still dominant, and even more so in the radio sector.
    Anyway, I actually like the BBC, I may be biased, but its put out high quality progamming in most genres. I dont know if you have something similar in the US.
    I believe it was! Wow, I didn't think you would know it. I really enjoyed the show, quite interesting how much effort they put into it. I'm actually watching "Kitchen Nightmares" right now. Brilliant cook, very inspiring to me that he wants to help other restaurants succeed. ^_^

    I can't recollect whether we have a channel like BBC, but there are quite a few channels that I love that doesn't have ridiculous shows that are absurd.
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    (Original post by Eldedu)
    You're entitled to like your country. I'm entitled not to. Here's why (a few choice reasons, there are many more)

    1.) You are home to more extreme religious fanatics / right-wing nutjobs per capita than any other country since Nazi Germany (with the possible exception of Iran).
    2.) For the past 100 years you have flouted the sovereignty of countless other nations to further your own aims, values and religion.
    3.) Recently, you set off a war which has cost hundreds of thousands of lives, and we still don't know why you did it.
    4.) You re-elected Bush
    5.) The Americans we get to see abroad tend to be loud, arrogant and somewhat brutish.
    6.) You're sore losers.
    7.) Some of you actually listen to Glenn Beck.
    8.) Others amongst you considered voting for the bimbo-***-lunatic that is Sarah Palin.
    9.) You are a country built on immigration, and yet you are now doing your best to persecute immigrants.
    oh and
    10.) Despite the guaranteed right to freedom of speech, the liberty which is mentioned so often as sacred in your consitution, and so many other big statements, when a normal, everyday man tries to expose your inner dealings to the public, your leaders accuse him of terrorism and start an international manhunt for him.
    11.) Socialism is practically a swearword in your country.
    1 - Proof please.
    2 - Boring.
    3 - So boring I am sick of hearing about it, I just wanna party and have fun.
    4 - This country re-elected Tony Boy. TWICE. Now bend over and spank me.
    5 - And the same doesn't apply to British stag party crowds and footie louts, does it?
    6 - And people in this country aren't? Especially when it comes to stupid sodding football and England have been beaten by SUPERIOR teams.
    7 - Some people here actually watch Big Borother and X Factor.
    11 - So what if socialism is practically a swearword? It is a load of boring, pretentious waffle.

    (Original post by Rob da Mop)
    Your foreign affairs policies all end in disasters, you end up with ridiculous people taking power (George Bush, the momentum the Tea Party's been gaining, even Obama isn't that great, but relative to most politicians he's OK), as a nation you have so many ridiculous extremes from ultra-conservative backwards religious nuts to idiotic gun-wielding maniacs, you practically worship a constitution written to solve the problems that faced a nation hundreds of years ago and
    And this country all went for that arrogant smarmy grinning Human Rights Act loving ponce Tony Boy - as if that's anything to be proud of. :rolleyes:

    (Original post by Rob da Mop)
    there are a large number of Americans who are just, in general, very rude.
    Oh my GOD! As if that doesn't apply to a large number of chav plebs in this ****hole country?
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    (Original post by Allie-23)
    The governemnt shouldn't decide based on someones paycheck who gets financial assistance for health care and who doesn't. Why should someone who works very hard (and I am by no means infering that the poor don't work hard) for their money have to pay for some form of treatment, and another who isn't able to earn the same amount of money, gets it free from the government? To me that encourages people to be lazier because they know the government will support them if they can't support themselves. Gov. should support all or none.
    Sadly there are people who work their hardest yet are refused medical treatment and end up having to sell their homes, whether this be because of their insurance provider being a typical insurance provider or because they simply can't afford the insurance premiums. If there isn't to be some sort of government assistance on healthcare because that would be tooooo socialist, then at the very least there should be stricter government regulation on the insurance providers to make it more affordable for all. It surely can't be acceptable that someone is rejected from lifesaving treatment based on their ability to pay?
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    (Original post by Cassandra_Z)
    May I know where you live?
    As for the BBC, wow I did not know they actually did that and was funded by the people? I actually watch the channel from time to time, but not for any news. One time I was watching a show where a man created a house completely made of legos. I know, kind of something a child should watch, but I grew up building with the things so I liked it.
    I cannot say anything about Obama.
    I'm 99% certain he was being sarcastic, which incidentally is a difference between Brits and Americans. If you move here it might take some time to get used to the humour, lots more irony/sarcasm and casual insults to friends.

    But the news/tv here is good, BBC can sometimes be biased - it's pro government which is sometimes quite noticeable - but we have other papers/channels like The Guardian and Channel 4 which give other views (The Daily Mail is ****ing terrible though, I don't even consider that a paper; we get the good with the bad).
    I did a research project based on the differences between American news and British news actually and I've got to say that American news is a lot more biased in general Fox/CNN are awful.

    Personally I go for a mix of BBC, The Guardian and Al Jazeera (obviously a bit of a lefty).

    We also have the best underground music in the world in my opinion (dubstep, drum and bass, garage etc), only Germany comes close. You may feel differently though.
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    It's the internet. Lots of rubbish gets said about lots of countries. I wouldn't worry about it.

    As for me personally, America is somewhere I'm interested in seeing and I'll refrain from judging it until or unless I've lived for a while there, or at least travelled over it to a good extent. I live with an American who gives me a few reality checks now and again, which helps
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    (Original post by ChrisBan)
    Sadly there are people who work their hardest yet are refused medical treatment and end up having to sell their homes, whether this be because of their insurance provider being a typical insurance provider or because they simply can't afford the insurance premiums. If there isn't to be some sort of government assistance on healthcare because that would be tooooo socialist, then at the very least there should be stricter government regulation on the insurance providers to make it more affordable for all. It surely can't be acceptable that someone is rejected from lifesaving treatment based on their ability to pay?
    I completley agree with that. Insurance companies often behave like bullys and purposely try to screw people out of receiving care that they need.
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    Go to America? No thanks.

    America is a vile country, their people think they're the only country that exists. The dumbness in that country is just laughable at times. I don't particular like the American attitudes either, very arrogant like the British!

    The only thing that country knows is how to kill innocent women and children across the world. Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Panama, Libya, Vietnam, Sudan, Somalia, Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan. I could go on all day!
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    (Original post by Cassandra_Z)
    To be honest i never thought about the U.S. being popular and what not. It was just that I had never actually come across people who would bash me for being American. I've had an upbringing where I wasn't exposed to international affairs, travels, or to any topics concerning other countries so I am quite naive in that area and am actually quite happy with everyone's comments (harsh or not).

    I shouldn't exactly blame my ignorance on my town or where I grew up at, but I really wasn't exposed to these topics or situations.
    This is the problem. Most Americans I have met (and before you say, I have met quite a lot, both offline and online and have also checked with others) don't have a ****ing clue about the rest of the world. Their knowledge of geography is absolutely ****, knowing nothing about the rest of the world, which makes some of them come across as retarded, ignorant and naive. I'm beginning to wonder whether they're even taught any of this in school.

    Oh, and Fox News is just scary.
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    (Original post by amandacalifornia)
    Why do you even care? You know they're wrong so why would you let it bother you? There's nothing you can do about it. Just ignore it. It actually gets pretty funny once the shock wears off. + This topic has just been done to death.
    I guess this has been done before but I could not resist

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    (Original post by Cassandra_Z)
    The Fox News Channel is actually a very controversal topic here. My boss' first words to me when he hired me (I work in a cafe) was that I could put the television on any channel except the Fox News Channel because he believes that they are liars and manipulating viewers to increase their profit.
    Totally agree. After living in the US and Europe Fox is a the most biased and unethical news service I have ever seen.
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    (Original post by ajtiesto)
    Go to America? No thanks.

    America is a vile country, their people think they're the only country that exists. The dumbness in that country is just laughable at times. I don't particular like the American attitudes either, very arrogant like the British!

    The only thing that country knows is how to kill innocent women and children across the world. Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Panama, Libya, Vietnam, Sudan, Somalia, Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan. I could go on all day!
    If you are going to call another country dumb you are entitled to your opinion, but it would probably be a good idea to make sure that what you are saying sounds and is pretty damn intelligent!! (it is hard 2 make such rash statements sound intelligent in the first place)
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    (Original post by Cassandra_Z)
    Haha, we love you back in return. ^_^
    No you don't.
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    I went to New York back in February and loved it. The city was amazing, although I must admit I was fearful for my life in several places such as times square. But on the whole the people were really friendly, just the odd few exceptions but every country is like that. As to why the world hates america, I partially blame the film industry. The way they protray America as being this almighty superpower which can do whatever the hell it likes can't do much good for it's repuatation in other countries.
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    (Original post by robocop1andahalf)
    1 - Proof please.
    2 - Boring.
    3 - So boring I am sick of hearing about it, I just wanna party and have fun.
    4 - This country re-elected Tony Boy. TWICE. Now bend over and spank me.
    5 - And the same doesn't apply to British stag party crowds and footie louts, does it?
    6 - And people in this country aren't? Especially when it comes to stupid sodding football and England have been beaten by SUPERIOR teams.
    7 - Some people here actually watch Big Borother and X Factor.
    11 - So what if socialism is practically a swearword? It is a load of boring, pretentious waffle.
    1.) I've already provided it. If you don't want to read the threads you're posting in that's fine but don't ask me to find the facts for you.
    2.) Is another way of saying you don't have a counterargument.
    3.) Again, no counterargument. If want to party and have fun, I suggest trying somewhere that's not an internet forum.
    4.) I'm not from "this country" so I don't see why I should give a ****, and in any case Blair was better than Bush.
    5.) Again, I'm not British, so your argument is (surprisingly) irrelevant.
    6.) Again, not from "this country".
    7.) See 6
    8 -10.) Well at least you don't even try to argue with these
    11.) Is your opinion. I happen to think socialism is the closest thing we have to a viable political theory that benefits everyone, so to me it matters, and I'm the one who wrote the list. You seem to use the word boring when you can't manage to argue but want to disagree out of sheer bloody-mindedness.

    :rolleyes:
 
 
 
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