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    Ahhh - I can't decide guys! I've just been given an offer from Imperial, and I've had my unexpected offer from LSE for a few weeks, both for MSc Finance! What to do?!
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    (Original post by emac1987)
    salut borisvian, good to hear that ur going to imperial, uve made the right decision!
    you shouldn't get scared bout the failure rate, if you work hard from the start you'll be fine. think from my class 10% got disctinction, 30% merit, 50 - 60% pass and maybe 5 - 10% fail but dont quote me on these figures, thats just from my memory (which is not always perfect!)
    Thanks...I hope that it will be fine...En passant, à ton avis c'est quoi le plus facile à passer le TOEFL Ibt (100) ou l'IELTS (7)...its a conditionnal offer...i have to submit a proof of my fluency in English...
    Thanks in advance
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    (Original post by henryt)
    Ahhh - I can't decide guys! I've just been given an offer from Imperial, and I've had my unexpected offer from LSE for a few weeks, both for MSc Finance! What to do?!
    LSE. I dont think the course is quite as good, but the name is worth it.
    Did you take the GMAT?
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    (Original post by Peaches182)
    I almost 100% agree. I think thats what its like for alot of people, including myself. For me, thats a big factor, but also the possibility of a PhD, which you cant really do without a masters.

    My applications for internships this time round have been infinately more successful than my last intern applications. And I use the word infinate because 0 responses times anything is still 0 . For me, the masters is also worth the shot at an interview, which I've never had before, and I'm getting a few already.
    I've already done a practical degree in finance and I do question how any degree can claim to be so practical as to prepare you for work, unless you are doing some kind of modelling job.

    I think another big factor for me and I imagine alot of people is that they like studying the material and gives another year of uni.

    I think its a tad harsh to say the degree wouldnt be useful, but I do feel the extra attempt at applications is a big draw.

    If you want to go into finance academia then obviously the MSc is best. No one where i work (a trading floor at a BB) was that enthusiastic about any of the programmes. But it does definitely get you another shot at the application process.
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    (Original post by Peaches182)
    LSE. I dont think the course is quite as good, but the name is worth it.
    Did you take the GMAT?
    No GMAT! Hence why I'm still (a little bit) in shock! That's what I'm thinking - ultimately, I think LSE is more marketable, and is possibly better for networking. But the course at Imperial looks so much better organised. Gah.
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    (Original post by Peaches182)
    What was the size of your class? on the website it says 176 is the current size, which seems very big.
    yep sounds about right. they divide the class into two sets so class size for compulsory subjects is around 90 students.
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    (Original post by henryt)
    Ahhh - I can't decide guys! I've just been given an offer from Imperial, and I've had my unexpected offer from LSE for a few weeks, both for MSc Finance! What to do?!
    Simple choice really. Take LSE. MUCH harder to get into plus many IBanks have a preference for LSE (Citi for example)
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    (Original post by Borisvian)
    Thanks...I hope that it will be fine...En passant, à ton avis c'est quoi le plus facile à passer le TOEFL Ibt (100) ou l'IELTS (7)...its a conditionnal offer...i have to submit a proof of my fluency in English...
    Thanks in advance
    Dunno which one is easier (i didnt have to take one) but im guessing you wont have a problem is passing either. I know people who speak worse english than you and passed the tests so i wouldnt worry if i were u...
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    (Original post by henryt)
    No GMAT! Hence why I'm still (a little bit) in shock! That's what I'm thinking - ultimately, I think LSE is more marketable, and is possibly better for networking. But the course at Imperial looks so much better organised. Gah.
    Congrats m8. I think you'll be good with either course. Another advantage of Imperial is that if you dont want to do a dissertation, you can do a 3000 word replacement + another elective, which I think is a good trade off.

    Its funny, I always felt I would choose Imperial over LSE (just because of the course). But atm, I'm undecided about Imperial vs Warwick, but I would always choose LSE over Warwick?!! I understand the situation your in, although, I'm not quite as lucky to be in it (not as in your lucky though, if you get what I mean )
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    Thank Emac for the answer (Actually, i sat for the TOEFL and wasnt at my best shape..I find it really annoying)...personally, i prefer the Msc finance at Impérial over LSE...but the fact is that LSE has a slightly better reputation in Finance....the content of the course is really poor...2 foundations courses plus 4 electives...its really a joke...Impérial Msc finance is quite better and will definitely give you an edge...I found the program very challenging and demanding in term of hard working and intellectual capacities
    Anyways, they are both targeted and very prestigious...among the Top 4 universities in UK...Here you have an interesting article of the Financial Times about the most targetted universities in Finance..as it's the FT, I think that its credible and reliable :

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/854d8a6c-d...077b07658.html

    Inner circle for Finance where all banks recruit : Oxford - Cambridge - Impérial

    Outer circle for Finance where some banks recruit and others not : LSE - Warwick - UCL
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    (Original post by Borisvian)
    Thank Emac for the answer (Actually, i sat for the TOEFL and wasnt at my best shape..I find it really annoying)...personally, i prefer the Msc finance at Impérial over LSE...but the fact is that LSE has a slightly better reputation in Finance....the content of the course is really poor...2 foundations courses plus 4 electives...its really a joke...Impérial Msc finance is quite better and will definitely give you an edge...I found the program very challenging and demanding in term of hard working and intellectual capacities
    Anyways, they are both targeted and very prestigious...among the Top 4 universities in UK...Here you have an interesting article of the Financial Times about the most targetted universities in Finance..as it's the FT, I think that its credible and reliable :

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/854d8a6c-d...077b07658.html

    Inner circle for Finance where all banks recruit : Oxford - Cambridge - Impérial

    Outer circle for Finance where some banks recruit and others not : LSE - Warwick - UCL
    Hey Borisvian,

    I completely agree with you. Think the LSE is boring and doesn't offer enough options and the Imperial one is a lot more intense but unfortunately LSE is just more known in the City (and NY). No idea why, think LSE is wayyyyyyyyy overrated.
    Yea read the FT article, was interesting. But that was talking abt the undergraduate studies and Imperial churns out a lot of engineers that banks like (in structuring/trading) but when it comes to corp fin, LSE is way ahead, on a different league almost. And since MSc finance isn't really gd enough for structuring role, my guess is that you'll b looking for jobs in corp fin and thats y i said LSE is better for that (not that Imperial is bad, it's very gd, just not as gd as LSE).

    En fait, t ou en ce moment? Canada/France/Angleterre?
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    I think people need to look at facts when judging universities. A quick search on Linkedin reveals:

    Numbers working or worked at Goldmans:
    671 LSE
    374 Imperial
    659 Oxford
    614 Cambridge
    243 Warwick
    496 UCL

    Mckinsey:

    Imperial 153
    LSE 446
    Warwick 65
    Oxford 803
    Cambride 620
    UCL 205

    The list confirms LSE/Oxbridge dominance in IB. However Oxbridge dominate the consultancy front.
    I don't have time to compile a list for other banks/consultancies, but Im sure the figures are similar.
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    (Original post by prospectivEEconomist)
    I think people need to look at facts when judging universities. A quick search on Linkedin reveals:

    Numbers working or worked at Goldmans:
    671 LSE
    374 Imperial
    659 Oxford
    614 Cambridge
    243 Warwick
    496 UCL

    Mckinsey:

    Imperial 153
    LSE 446
    Oxford 800 something
    Cambride 600 something
    UCL 200 something


    I don't have time to compile a list for other banks/consultancies, but Im sure the figures are similar.
    There is absolutely nothing to conclude from these numbers (providing they are accurate which I am totally unsure). You need to divide them by the number of people from the aforementioned unis who actually applied to Goldman and McKinsey.
    Why do assume everybody wants to work for these companies?
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    (Original post by Theophile)
    There is absolutely nothing to conclude from these numbers (providing they are accurate which I
    am totally unsure). You need to divide them by the number of people from the aforementioned unis who actually applied to Goldman and McKinsey.
    Why do assume everybody wants to work for these companies?
    Because they are the two most prestigious companies to work for in their respective fields.
    People want to study Finance at a prestigious university (which costs a bomb) so they could end up working for a prestigious company...

    One would think a person wouldn't spend 20-30k on a finance degree to work for a NGO or the civil service...

    PS I understand a lot of non finance people work at these banks and consultancies, but this thread is about MSc Finance, and having a strong alumni network helps.
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    (Original post by prospectivEEconomist)
    I think people need to look at facts when judging universities. A quick search on Linkedin reveals:

    Numbers working or worked at Goldmans:
    671 LSE
    374 Imperial
    659 Oxford
    614 Cambridge
    243 Warwick
    496 UCL

    Mckinsey:

    Imperial 153
    LSE 446
    Warwick 65
    Oxford 803
    Cambride 620
    UCL 205

    The list confirms LSE/Oxbridge dominance in IB. However Oxbridge dominate the consultancy front.
    I don't have time to compile a list for other banks/consultancies, but Im sure the figures are similar.
    Well you have to watch out about the backgrounds of these guys and where they are exactly in Goldman, I am willing to bet the Imperial, Oxford and Cambridge guys ( the majority at least) probably work on Goldman's FICC desk in a pretty quantitative role, so I don't think they really represent the market for Msc. Finance people. Plus if I recall quite a few banks are levering back to the IB side of the business since the crisis, especially with the pickup in M&A so yeah...I think you should "clarify" those stats
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    (Original post by emac1987)
    En fait, t ou en ce moment? Canada/France/Angleterre?
    Currently, Paris/France..je bouge bientôt au Canada (niveau froid c'est violent)...je suis juste un peu embeter par cette histoire de test d'anglais...Sans indiscrétion tu bosses ds quel boite
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    (Original post by prospectivEEconomist)
    I think people need to look at facts when judging universities. A quick search on Linkedin reveals:

    Numbers working or worked at Goldmans:
    671 LSE
    374 Imperial
    659 Oxford
    614 Cambridge
    243 Warwick
    496 UCL

    Mckinsey:

    Imperial 153
    LSE 446
    Warwick 65
    Oxford 803
    Cambride 620
    UCL 205

    The list confirms LSE/Oxbridge dominance in IB. However Oxbridge dominate the consultancy front.
    I don't have time to compile a list for other banks/consultancies, but Im sure the figures are similar.
    I think another thing you need to take into account is the LSE reputation of pushing people towards IB and its extremely good location. LSE is almost a self fulfilling prophecy. It had a reputation for getting people into IB, so people go to get into IB, and cos the majority will want to do IB, they will get into it further increasing the numbers and so the circle begins again.
    Not everyone from Oxbridge will want to do IB as will be the case with warwick and other top universities, but a large amount of people at LSE will want to get into IB, so those stats will be slightly biased.
    I don’t think anyone is doubting LSE’s rep, but the massive point is, the course is soft, I don’t think anyone can deny that.
    You do econ at Notts right? (it may have been someone else) Have you got an offer from LSE or something, just out of curiosity, you seem to defend the place alot, when no one is actually saying a bad word about it.
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    (Original post by prospectivEEconomist)
    I think people need to look at facts when judging universities. A quick search on Linkedin reveals:

    Numbers working or worked at Goldmans:
    671 LSE
    374 Imperial
    659 Oxford
    614 Cambridge
    243 Warwick
    496 UCL

    Mckinsey:

    Imperial 153
    LSE 446
    Warwick 65
    Oxford 803
    Cambride 620
    UCL 205

    The list confirms LSE/Oxbridge dominance in IB. However Oxbridge dominate the consultancy front.
    I don't have time to compile a list for other banks/consultancies, but Im sure the figures are similar.
    Where's the source? Linkedin is incomplete and unreliable. Also, is this for undergrad or postgrad figures? Are MBAs included?
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    (Original post by Mr. Roxas)
    Where's the source? Linkedin is incomplete and unreliable. Also, is this for undergrad or postgrad figures? Are MBAs included?
    It's a "quick" and crude search where I typed in the name of the school and the company. Therefore it includes undergrads to MBA's. Of course Linkedin is incomplete since it only includes (fairly) technically save people.

    However the point I am making is that people are judging universities on rankings etc, which in my opinion is less reliable of a universities prestige than, say, their alumni.
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    (Original post by Peaches182)
    I think another thing you need to take into account is the LSE reputation of pushing people towards IB and its extremely good location. LSE is almost a self fulfilling prophecy. It had a reputation for getting people into IB, so people go to get into IB, and cos the majority will want to do IB, they will get into it further increasing the numbers and so the circle begins again.
    Not everyone from Oxbridge will want to do IB as will be the case with warwick and other top universities, but a large amount of people at LSE will want to get into IB, so those stats will be slightly biased.
    I don’t think anyone is doubting LSE’s rep, but the massive point is, the course is soft, I don’t think anyone can deny that.
    You do econ at Notts right? (it may have been someone else) Have you got an offer from LSE or something, just out of curiosity, you seem to defend the place alot, when no one is actually saying a bad word about it.
    Yes I study economics there.

    Can you please tell me why you think the LSE finance/economics courses are soft? Whilst the Imperial courses seems more mathematical, it doesn't make it any harder. For quant roles you need a PHD, so a masters is useless in that case.
 
 
 
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