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    (Original post by Eboracum)
    They will be full of horrible socialists and uneducated morons. I'd rather eat horse **** than attend a party with them.
    But those are the types who party the hardest
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    (Original post by ajh1990)
    But that's what it will look like, and be portrayed as, so it doesn't achieve anything.
    It's portrayed as that by a segment of the media, you can choose to believe them or not.
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    (Original post by ed-)
    I know you're not. But you're clearly doing the same so why can't I say it twice?
    The fact is there's no proof that she caused an increase in suicides.
    There are even PMs who have higher suicide rates so I don't see how this can be used as a point against her.

    I inferred that you hate her from the fact you're arguing a ridiculously petit point against her legacy. That generally would mean you don't like someone. Or is this some strange tribute that I'm missing :rolleyes:
    I'm not British, I could not care less about her either way. Why are you so intent on people "hating" her personally whenever they disagree with her? The two aren't inclusive.

    I made a solely academic statement that you are wrong. Google structural break test or chow test and see for yourself. It is of course not as rigorous as a causal link in physics, but that is after all the plight of the social sciences, and does not mean no causality can be attributed at all.

    In fact, as far as I am aware even in physics they use statistics to define certainty (something like 5 standard deviations I think are needed to deem it too unlikely to be not causal).
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Inflation did surge up several times during her adminstrations - it didn't achieve a long term lowering until around 1994-96 and plenty of people give more plaudits to Ken Clarke's chancellorship under Major than to Thatcher's chancellors.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...tion-economics
    It is widely regarded in economics that Volcker in the US and Thatcher in the UK checked in excessive inflation. Yes she did not manage to bring it down to today's levels, but those two were the first to successfully try and reduce it (using Friedman's ideas mostly of curbing money supply growth) and what came after was just the follow up of what was started by them.
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    I think it's certainly wrong to celebrate her death - but we also shouldn't act like she was a saint. She was a terrible prime minister in a lot of ways, and so many people I know who complained about her when she was alive are now going on about how wonderful she was. We shouldn't ignore what she's done wrong just because we feel sorry now that she's dead.
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    (Original post by danny111)
    It is widely regarded in economics that Volcker in the US and Thatcher in the UK checked in excessive inflation. Yes she did not manage to bring it down to today's levels, but those two were the first to successfully try and reduce it (using Friedman's ideas mostly of curbing money supply growth) and what came after was just the follow up of what was started by them.
    I'm aware of the theories. Another, simpler possibility is that a massive surge in oil prices in the early/mid 70s caused a gigantic spike in inflation, which then gradually worked out of the system. When you look at the long-term graphs of oil prices and UK CPI since 1950, it does look plausible that is the primary driver.
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    Respect Mp George Galloway and Labour Councillor for Colchester Tina Bourne have said some pretty disgusting things about her death. Tina Bourne is also a Deputy Headteacher, nice example to her pupils.

    This

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/gr...tical-enemies/
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    I'm aware of the theories. Another, simpler possibility is that a massive surge in oil prices in the early/mid 70s caused a gigantic spike in inflation, which then gradually worked out of the system. When you look at the long-term graphs of oil prices and UK CPI since 1950, it does look plausible that is the primary driver.
    I don't think so.
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    (Original post by billydisco)
    She wasn't against working class- you do realise there are other working class jobs besides manufacturing yeh?
    And she ensured the working class could buy their own homes.
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    (Original post by shakkashakkaboom)
    Respect Mp George Galloway and Labour Councillor for Colchester Tina Bourne have said some pretty disgusting things about her death. Tina Bourne is also a Deputy Headteacher, nice example to her pupils.



    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/gr...tical-enemies/
    They are a disgrace to their respective professions
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    (Original post by Elissabeth)
    And she ensured the working class could buy their own homes.
    And she cut income tax too!
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    (Original post by a729)
    They are a disgrace to their respective professions
    Galloway has a profession? Professional loudmouth and serial clown?

    Seriously, it was always on the cards that these idiots would come forwards on her death to make a spectacle of themselves. What does it prove, other than that they are idiots and also rather contemptible, which in Galloway's case, we already knew?
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    (Original post by danny111)
    I'm not British, I could not care less about her either way. Why are you so intent on people "hating" her personally whenever they disagree with her? The two aren't inclusive.

    I made a solely academic statement that you are wrong. Google structural break test or chow test and see for yourself. It is of course not as rigorous as a causal link in physics, but that is after all the plight of the social sciences, and does not mean no causality can be attributed at all.

    In fact, as far as I am aware even in physics they use statistics to define certainty (something like 5 standard deviations I think are needed to deem it too unlikely to be not causal).
    Well if you were British you may understand that people generally do either love or hate her.

    I'll say it again; those statistics show a correlation and nothing more.
    Even if I were to accept that she directly caused people to commit suicide then this wouldn't tarnish my opinion of her one bit.
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    (Original post by billydisco)
    She wasn't against working class- you do realise there are other working class jobs besides manufacturing yeh?
    Your post seems to have divided opinion just like Thatcher lool!
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    (Original post by a729)
    And she cut income tax too!



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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Galloway has a profession? Professional loudmouth and serial clown?

    Seriously, it was always on the cards that these idiots would come forwards on her death to make a spectacle of themselves. What does it prove, other than that they are idiots and also rather contemptible, which in Galloway's case, we already knew?
    Tina Bourne is a Deputy Headteacher.
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    (Original post by ed-)
    Well if you were British you may understand that people generally do either love or hate her.

    I'll say it again; those statistics show a correlation and nothing more.
    Even if I were to accept that she directly caused people to commit suicide then this wouldn't tarnish my opinion of her one bit.
    I don't believe in coincidence if the test show a significant break when she got into power (up) and one when she left (down).

    And given this has been happening apparently for other Tory governments across the world, it isn't just coincidence.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Galloway has a profession? Professional loudmouth and serial clown?

    Seriously, it was always on the cards that these idiots would come forwards on her death to make a spectacle of themselves. What does it prove, other than that they are idiots and also rather contemptible, which in Galloway's case, we already knew?
    He's a (divisive/polarising) politician! And sadly now an MP


    That's true but I doubt there will be any parties by the right when say Scargill , Blair , Kinnock, Brown , etc.pass on
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    (Original post by shakkashakkaboom)
    Tina Bourne is a Deputy Headteacher.
    She's a tweet victim presumably? And a local Labour councillor? You always get one or two suitable-sounding people with 'official' jobs who make daft tweets at times like this for the press to pick up on. Again, proves nothing, beyond the fairly obvious fact that people who make idiot tweets can also work as teachers in senior school posts. Which again, we already knew.
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    (Original post by danny111)
    I don't believe in coincidence if the test show a significant break when she got into power (up) and one when she left (down).

    And given this has been happening apparently for other Tory governments across the world, it isn't just coincidence.
    Do you expect me to feel guilty for being a Conservative? :rolleyes:
 
 
 
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