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Poll: Who will you vote for in 2015?
Labour (82)
27.61%
Conservatives (75)
25.25%
Lib Dems (13)
4.38%
UKIP (51)
17.17%
Other (43)
14.48%
I'm not going to vote (33)
11.11%
Rakas21
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You make a good point. But essentially the Tories have borrowed more in 3 years than the whole of Labour combined in 13 years. I understand reducing the amount of payment via interest is the difference between bust and boom. I just want to know where that money has gone.

It should of spent on infrastructure. I understand about £300 bn of it was spent on servicing our debts but where has the other 1.5 trillion gone over 3 years.
Increased health, education and welfare expenditure over the past decade.
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Conservative.

You are mad if you vote for labour as they don't give two ****s about the economy, green party as they are a bunch of hippies and your vote will be worthless, and UKIP (don't get me started about their crackpot members).
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Increased health, education and welfare expenditure over the past decade.
Wouldn't bond redemption be a more better answer?
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Wouldn't bond redemption be a more better answer?
Not to explain a 40bn structural deficit. A large fall in tax revenue due to the recession was also another cause. Bond costs were kept down somewhat by QE.
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Definitely not conservatives. Definitely not UKIP.


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Conservative.

You are mad if you vote for labour as they don't give two ****s about the economy, green party as they are a bunch of hippies and your vote will be worthless, and UKIP (don't get me started about their crackpot members).
I was considering voting Labour until I read this measured, well-reasoned, post.
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Not Conservatives because of how badly they **** things up and are for the rich and I just hate the party in general.
Not UKIP because I'm not a racist/racist in denial/an idiot.
Not Lib Dem because I do not want another coalition government.
Not any of the smaller parties because they tend to focus on one thing and not enough on other issues and they probably wouldn't win so wasted vote in a way. Though I suppose if not everyone thought this way, small parties would have more of a chance.
This leaves Labour, but even they tend to mess things up and have some bad points but I guess they are just the least bad out of the others.


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What the hell? There are people who are planning to vote Lib Dem? The world is a strange place.

I'm a member of the Labour Party, I'm going to vote Labour, and we're going to win.
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I'm voting for none of them, simply because i don't feel i have the right to moan when whoever gets in invariably screws things up. I've just finished reading a book that promotes some guy as a political alternative, in this interview i couldn't agree more with virtually everything said - http://thechroniclesofhope.com/get-to-know-frank/. So until we have a viable political alternative i'll stay with this guy Frank Noon in this world of fiction!
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Labour as these austerity measures are really crippling ordinary people. The welfare budget needs to be protected and we need to start investing more in the NHS.


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I was considering voting Labour until I read this measured, well-reasoned, post.
Dig deeper Watson.
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Surprising how many young people are planning on voting Conservative.
They're seen as the "nasty party", because they stereotypically "favour big business" but by giving incentives to big business, more and more people are provided jobs.

For instance, there are now lower business taxes, so companies that traditionally off shored to India are now starting to re-shore to the UK

And small businesses are incentivised to take people on ie: the gov't will provide training costs.

Though one thing I think this gov't has got deeply deeply wrong, is something that is not an issue now, but it will sure as hell be a massive political point for the other parties when it happens.

In the past, people criticised labour for letting the housing market get how it got, with sub prime mortgages, sub prime credit etc.. ie: lending money to those that can't afford it

But now, under a newly badged "idea" the gov't is saying for first time buyers, you only need a 5% deposit. That does greatly help the likes of most students here BUT it's just waiting to go catastrophically wrong, because money would be lent to people who cant really afford it

I favour the third way btw, which is a labour term, which in all fairness, is nationalism socialism, but no one dares to use those two words together, because of a little thing called the nazis Though for me, there's no "nationalism" Just economic freedom

The current gov't that tripled university tuition fees, and gave us the slightly ****ty end of the stick for our energy needs
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In my opinion there are only two parties worth voting for in 2015, Labour or Conservative.

I admire Nigel Farage in the way he has managed to do something none of the other party leaders have managed to do; relate to ordinary people. This personality, populist foreign policy and a centralisation of the three major parties has lead to this illusion that UKIP are a party capable of running a country. Were it not for their stubborn and irrational views on the EU and immigration, they may get my vote, but I fear after there may not be much else left to them after that. I can only hope people come to their senses this time next year.
The Green Party is a nice idea and I really hope they win more than one seat at the next election so as to have some sort of influence in the commons, albeit very limited. However, unless you live in a constituency which regularly sees a large percentage of green voters (which I do not) there is literally no point in voting for them. Likewise, the "no voters" who seem to assume that their one man stand will lead to a revolution headed my Russell Brand need to re-evaluate what they're doing with their lives. As people have already stated, UK elections have unfortunately demised into a "lesser of two evils" scenario which isn't going to change any time in the near future and people need to come down from the clouds and try to make the best of a bad situation.

The Conservatives and Labour are also guilty of using exaggerated populism to achieve scare votes. The difference I find here is the extent to which they do this. I am still sceptical of the 'coincidence' of Benefits Street airing around the time of a welfare cut announcement by the Tories. I really dislike the way in which the Conservatives have grouped ALL benefits claimants as being part of an underclass of scumbags, when in reality the majority of them are woking 10 times harder than your average banker for 10 times less. They seem to be trying to brainwash the middle classes into believing it is the poor who are "stealing" from them - not the rich, and to all intents and purposes are succeeding.
Similarly, Miliband's energy price freeze was a cheap populist move latching onto a newly discovered public consciousness of business cartels booming from the recession. Although this needs to be addressed, a year long price freeze seems like an unrealistic way to solve this problem as the companies will simply account for their losses by raising prices before and after the freeze (and "coincidentally" they will probably all raise prices by an uncannily similar amount).

In an ideal world i'd vote for a party who advocated equality of opportunity, bumped inheritance tax up to 90 odd percent and provided free and equal education from nursery through to university. Increased tax on big business and closed loopholes allowing for offshore tax evasion, allowing small businesses to thrive. This tax would then fund the nationalisation of public SERVICES that were SERVING the population badly, just as a bad worker would be sacked and replaced.
Unfortunately this utopian party is yet to exist. Consequently the only party I can vote for with a view to improving the state of the country for the majority of the population is Labour. Those who still blame Labour for a worldwide recession really need to look at the bigger picture and remember the world leaders endorsing a capitalism with no limits in the 80's (Ms Thatcher's bank deregulation). If Ed Miliband gets some backbone and really faces up to corporate tax evasion, he can both get the electorate on side and reduce the deficit. Unfortunately this is something David Cameron will not be able to do as it would mean stripping his old Etonian school mates of their 7 figure salaries for all their "hard work" in "running" their energy companies and banks.
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Dig deeper Watson.
That was the joke. Congrats.
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I am unsure who I will be voting for in the next election, my constituency is usually a conservative seat. I may spoil my vote as the party I most relate to (Green) has no chance of winning in my area.
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Unless something drastic happens in the next year or so, I will vote Conservative.
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OTHER = Green Party

this is a UK general election thread, why do you not have the Green party? they have an MP, UKIP do NOT.
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Monster raving looney party

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If I was old enough to vote I would vote Labour, because this government is absolutely rubbish. Nowhere in the Conservative manifesto did they say they would privatise the NHS & Royal Mail, cut essential services and bribe councils into allowing fracking; heck, they said they were a green party!

I wouldn't vote Lib Dem either because they are utterly spineless and have had zero influence on anything that has happened in Parliament.

However I do think the UK political system needs new parties to represent people's views - many don't agree with any of the current major parties, so don't vote at all, which is actually against democracy. If nobody votes then it turns into a competition of who has the most friends in high places.

I have however happily voted in my local UKYP elections and I'm on the local UKYP youth committee. Yay for young people's democracy!
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Probably Lib Dem... At least their policies in paper are good, despite not having the backbone to stand up for them.
Conservatives: Good with the economy but their intrusion on the internet pushed me over.
Labour: I would rather trust bunch of chimpanzees with the economy.
UKIP: LOLNO.
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