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    (Original post by ronmack)
    Playing with dolls makes you unmature? Please provide proof of that 1400 years ago. How do you know he sinned? Your not even a muslims, you don't even know what sin actually is or what is considered a sin.
    Do you see a mentally mature woman playing with dolls, carrying them a lot?
    What indicates she is immature is that she was exempt from being punished for it. I am not Muslim, yes, but i certainly understand what a sin is in Islam.
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    (Original post by ExMus)
    To be a Muslim, did I need to?

    My family is practicing but I found myself disagreeing with concept of religion and some teachings.
    We all lose a little faith because of the way society has brought us up. It teaches us one set of rules and Islam teaches us another. You need to fight it brother and believe in your lord.
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    (Original post by ExMus)
    Do you see a mentally mature woman playing with dolls, carrying them a lot?
    What indicates she is immature is that she was exempt from being punished for it. I am not Muslim, yes, but i certain understand what a sin is in Islam.
    Read the Hadith again http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/atta...d=301160&stc=1

    She got engaged at 6 but married when she was older then 9, different ages scholar believes but all ages are above 9.

    Did I answer it now?
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    (Original post by ronmack)
    Concept and what teachings? Giving rights to Blacks 1400 years ago. Even in America blacks were not even considered humans 100 years ago!
    If you read the thread, you'll see. It's been discussed a lot in the earlier pages. And, yes, whats your point about black people?

    Likewise, apostates have been stoned and killed for 1400 hundred years. Apostates in this country aren't considered to be worthy of stoning.
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    (Original post by ExMus)
    If you read the thread, you'll see. It's been discussed a lot in the earlier pages. And, yes, whats your point about black people?

    Likewise, apostates have been stoned and killed for 1400 hundred years. Apostates in this country aren't considered to be worthy of stoning.
    http://www.askimam.org/public/question_detail/16717
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    (Original post by ronmack)
    Read the Hadith again http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/atta...d=301160&stc=1

    She got engaged at 6 but married when she was older then 9, different ages scholar believes but all ages are above 9.

    Did I answer it now?
    No you didn't. I don't see how it is relevant to the question. She was considered a child just before marriage as well.
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    What color of socks am i wearing?
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    (Original post by ExMus)
    No you didn't. I don't see how it is relevant to the question. She was considered a child just before marriage as well.
    c'mon cuh, your not that dumb are you?
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    (Original post by ronmack)
    c'mon cuh, your not that dumb are you?
    I'm not dumb at all
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    (Original post by anthonyhendo1986)
    What color of socks am i wearing?
    Trick question - it's rainbow coloured!
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    (Original post by ExMus)
    I'm not dumb at all
    There's honestly no point in arguing, they're just gonna say you weren't a 'true' muslim and that you're just misunderstanding the qu'ran and any sources you use are lies and so on and so forth :laugh:

    How do you feel about other religions? how would you raise your children?
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    (Original post by brownsugar-xx)
    There's honestly no point in arguing, they're just gonna say you weren't a 'true' muslim and that you're just misunderstanding the qu'ran and any sources you use are lies and so on and so forth :laugh:

    How do you feel about other religions? how would you raise your children?
    I'm quite against the idea of a god with absolute power, one who has capabilities of answering your prayers, so I am against the traditional Gods and religions.
    I'd raise my children with secular beliefs in a liberal household, with a strong sense of morailty and good food.
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    (Original post by ExMus)
    I'm quite against the idea of a god with absolute power, one who has capabilities of answering your prayers, so I am against the traditional Gods and religions.
    I'd raise my children with secular beliefs in a liberal household, with a strong sense of morailty and good food.
    Yeah i agree, although i'd want to make sure my children knew about other religions, of course they'd probably learn some of that from school though. Good food guarantees your childrens love :yep:
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    (Original post by brownsugar-xx)
    Yeah i agree, although i'd want to make sure my children knew about other religions, of course they'd probably learn some of that from school though. Good food guarantees your childrens love :yep:
    Yeah, I agree with you. I feel as though school doesn't give you an adequate understanding of other religions - at least in my experience because for RS all I learnt was Islam and its criticisms and arguments. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by ExMus)
    Yeah, I agree with you. I feel as though school doesn't give you an adequate understanding of other religions - at least in my experience because for RS all I learnt was Islam and its criticisms and arguments. :rolleyes:
    Yeah people only learnt the VERY basics in school and even then i'm sure a lot of people were kinda clueless about some religions at least. All we learnt in school about Islam was ramadan and praying 5 times a day and that's pretty much it. Oh, and we got to design our own praying mats :laugh: i had an edge there obviously cause i know what they normally look like.
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    (Original post by ExMus)
    Are you testing me? Hahahah. Mate, you're having a laugh.

    I've never heard of the 6 pillars. Just the 5.

    Shahadah, prayer, ramadan, zakaat and hajj



    there is 6 pillars of IMAN ! and i really feel for your parents . though its your choice but it does rip ones heart. I suppose you never knew much about your religion and that maybe the case taking another path .
    but may i ask........ why become an atheist?
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    there is 6 pillars of IMAN ! and i really feel for your parents . though its your choice but it does rip ones heart. I suppose you never knew much about your religion and that maybe the case taking another path .
    but may i ask........ why become an atheist?
    Okay. There may be another explanation as to why I left.

    I disagreed with religion and god. My thinking developed and i wanted evidence for the existence of a higher being, and I disliked the idea of God.
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    (Original post by brownsugar-xx)
    Yeah people only learnt the VERY basics in school and even then i'm sure a lot of people were kinda clueless about some religions at least. All we learnt in school about Islam was ramadan and praying 5 times a day and that's pretty much it. Oh, and we got to design our own praying mats :laugh: i had an edge there obviously cause i know what they normally look like.
    Yeah haha. School was very pointless for me with regard to religion because Islam is all we learnt and I pretty much knew most of the content haha
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    Normally, when I meet an atheist, the first thing I like to do is to congratulate him and say, " My special congratulations to you", because most of the people who believe in God are doing blind belief - he is a Christian, because his father is a Christian; he is a Hindu, because his father is a Hindu; the majority of the people in the world are blindly following the religion of their fathers. An atheist, on the other hand, even though he may belong to a religious family, uses his intellect to deny the existence of God.

    n mathematics there is a theory known as ‘Theory of Probability’. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12ÂÃ⠀šÃ‚½%.
    A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.
    Let us apply this theory of probability to the Qur’an, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Qur’an which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.
    At the time when the Qur’an was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Qur’an rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.
    The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Qur’an rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.
    Further, the Qur’an also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Qur’an rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.
    The Qur’an speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Qur’an is Divine.
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    Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God. Scientists today are eliminating models of god, but they are not eliminating God. If you translate this into Arabic, it is La illaha illal la, There is no god, (god with a small ‘g’ that is fake god) but God (with a capital ‘G’).
    Surah Fussilat:
    "Soon We will show them our signs in the (farthest) regions (of the earth), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things?"
    [Al-Quran 41:53]
 
 
 
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