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    This is why...
    First of all you shoulda knew that computer science is one of the degrees with the highest unemployment rate so a lot of people not having jobs is expected.
    Secondly, a lot of companies recently got rid of computer jobs (Microsoft most famously) so there are thousands out there with no jobs competing.
    And thirdly, a 2:2 in a degree with highest unemployment rate does not look too good. If you did work as hard as you could then unless you're from Oxbridge, a 2:1 should have been possible at least.
    And which uni did you go?
    Employers always favour unis even though they say theyy don't.
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    (Original post by ETRC)
    This is why...
    First of all you shoulda knew that computer science is one of the degrees with the highest unemployment rate so a lot of people not having jobs is expected.
    Secondly, a lot of companies recently got rid of computer jobs (Microsoft most famously) so there are thousands out there with no jobs competing.
    And thirdly, a 2:2 in a degree with highest unemployment rate does not look too good. If you did work as hard as you could then unless you're from Oxbridge, a 2:1 should have been possible at least.
    And which uni did you go?
    Employers always favour unis even though they say theyy don't.
    bs.

    Law is worse for unemployment.

    Just to get a grad job, they look at modular marks. That says it all.
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    Just graduated with a 2:1 in Computer Science and a 1st in my dissertation. It was very hard work and my social life was non existent in my third year given my dissertation was 15,000 words plus the practical implementation of the project - coding it led to many sleepless nights - but guess what? That's what I signed up for so how can I blame anyone else? You need to put more effort in OP because it sounds like you got a degree and thought it'd get the job for you.

    I've got an online personal website and portfolio and my LinkedIn is always up to date. I've had 7 job offers to date - not interviews but job offers. However I want to go into teaching so I declined them. The one was really good pay too but I'd rather be unemployed than live in London as its too fast and too much of a rat race for me. I like the place for a weekend but that's about it.

    As for the person saying law is more respected I can't stop laughing. The work after might be once you do the LPC and real work but the degree is no different from A levels in how it is assessed - most law students are constantly out on the piss, cram revise and do their essays a couple days before and still get a 2:1.

    Where's the practical application?
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    (Original post by MUN123)
    But getting a degree in Computer science was very hard, I spent a lot of time coding in to the late hours whilst my friends from other degrees partied all night
    Must have been solid if you only got a 2:2.

    Though don't worry I have a 2:1 and a 1st and work experience and can't get work either
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    (Original post by Three Mile Sprint)
    Must have been solid if you only got a 2:2.

    Though don't worry I have a 2:1 and a 1st and work experience and can't get work either
    I was 0.01% marks away from a 2:1, the reason why I obtained a 2:2 was because I was spending too much time with my dissertation which required me to teach myself a whole load of technologies in a short space of time
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    (Original post by nulli tertius)
    I think people are over-analysing this.

    The OP has no work experience, and is unwilling to get any by working for nothing. In a world where graduates with better connections and better degrees are working unpaid for months in places with more job opportunities in order to get a first foot on the ladder, the OP is expecting to be hired straight from the dole queue in an unemployment blackspot.

    Moreover, the OP's position will only get worse unless he does something about it. After a time, group think sets in. Hirers will think "I can see nothing wrong with him, but there must be a problem with him, otherwise he wouldn't have been out of work so long. Next please!"
    I think you have not read my post I DID apply for a lot number of minimum wage jobs which I have been rejected from,
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    (Original post by Sanctimonious)
    Just graduated with a 2:1 in Computer Science and a 1st in my dissertation. It was very hard work and my social life was non existent in my third year given my dissertation was 15,000 words plus the practical implementation of the project - coding it led to many sleepless nights - but guess what? That's what I signed up for so how can I blame anyone else? You need to put more effort in OP because it sounds like you got a degree and thought it'd get the job for you.

    I've got an online personal website and portfolio and my LinkedIn is always up to date. I've had 7 job offers to date - not interviews but job offers. However I want to go into teaching so I declined them. The one was really good pay too but I'd rather be unemployed than live in London as its too fast and too much of a rat race for me. I like the place for a weekend but that's about it.

    As for the person saying law is more respected I can't stop laughing. The work after might be once you do the LPC and real work but the degree is no different from A levels in how it is assessed - most law students are constantly out on the piss, cram revise and do their essays a couple days before and still get a 2:1.

    Where's the practical application?
    I did put effort in to the point that I didn't have time to apply for jobs during my final year.
    When you're given a lot of modules with new technologies to learn in a short space of time and difficult multiple assignment to implement and test where making a single mistake such as a bug in the code results in you getting a fail on top of that the dissertation module where I had to implement a software with req/design/coding/testing and that of course is quite challenging which some of the people here that did other courses don't seem to understand.
    I was also 0.01% away from a 2:1
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    (Original post by MUN123)
    I was also 0.01% away from a 2:1
    Did you appeal that?
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    (Original post by fat_hobbit)
    I have bigger fish to fry.

    About to launch my tech start up, product is pretty much finished.

    Degrees are important, but if you let that hold you back from being successful, then you are not built for the commercial environment because you can't think outside the box. Going to Oxford etc cannot teach you this. (General entrepreneurial skills) Either you have it , or you don't. That's why I find your elitism pathetic at times.

    There is no excuse. Crying over spilt milk will not help you become successful, it's how you pick yourself up from a set back that defines a man.
    Anyone can start up a company its £75 you just fill an online form with companies house, was thinking might even start up a business in "waste management". The problem being money is a reflection of success. You told your little brother jalebi the same thing from being a kid going to durham. He thought the same shortcut to money, to being a kid working in a bookie at 23/24 on payday loan and going to birmingham city uni. Everytime he write to me he is regretting listening to you. Imagine at 29-30 if you don't have £100k behind you out of earnt money and saves from work its incredibly bad. 10 years later your middle aged its worry. You get people owning homes at 21-22 now. Just regular folk, stop creating bad situations for others. Personally if my parents/family screwed my stuff over there would be more then breach of the peace. Share successes not failures!
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    (Original post by SloaneRanger)
    Anyone can start up a company its £75 you just fill an online form with companies house, was thinking might even start up a business in "waste management". The problem being money is a reflection of success. You told your little brother jalebi the same thing from being a kid going to durham. He thought the same shortcut to money, to being a kid working in a bookie at 23/24 on payday loan and going to birmingham city uni. Everytime he write to me he is regretting listening to you. Imagine at 29-30 if you don't have £100k behind you out of earnt money and saves from work its incredibly bad. 10 years later your middle aged its worry. You get people owning homes at 21-22 now. Just regular folk, stop creating bad situations for others. Personally if my parents/family screwed my stuff over there would be more then breach of the peace. Share successes not failures!
    Yeah well at least I have the balls to try, rather then sitting there whining that no one will employ me.(even though I am working)
    Every entrepreneur knows there is a risk of failing, but it doesn't stop them, does it?

    If you think start ups are easy, it isn't there is a lot you have to think about. And it takes effort to think of a good enough product to worth investing time into. You have to also spend time writing a good business plan, analyse market trends etc

    Finally building a software product is not easy. You need specialist skills, if you don't have the money to get someone else to build it for you.

    I don't live for money like you do by the way, I do what I do because I believe in innovation.
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    (Original post by Sanctimonious)
    Just graduated with a 2:1 in Computer Science and a 1st in my dissertation. It was very hard work and my social life was non existent in my third year given my dissertation was 15,000 words plus the practical implementation of the project - coding it led to many sleepless nights - but guess what? That's what I signed up for so how can I blame anyone else? You need to put more effort in OP because it sounds like you got a degree and thought it'd get the job for you.

    I've got an online personal website and portfolio and my LinkedIn is always up to date. I've had 7 job offers to date - not interviews but job offers. However I want to go into teaching so I declined them. The one was really good pay too but I'd rather be unemployed than live in London as its too fast and too much of a rat race for me. I like the place for a weekend but that's about it.

    As for the person saying law is more respected I can't stop laughing. The work after might be once you do the LPC and real work but the degree is no different from A levels in how it is assessed - most law students are constantly out on the piss, cram revise and do their essays a couple days before and still get a 2:1.

    Where's the practical application?

    No one likes computer scientists, you are seen as nerds. Pop culture sees you as socially inept weirdos. Also, looking at the types of people in your classes, you all look weird. Similarly to your idea about rather being unemployed than living in London. I would rather be unemployed than be a computer scientist.

    It was your choice to take C.S. , so inevitably you have to live with the stigma. When I ask girls what they think of computer scientistss they talk about how much money the industry is making. But along this same breath, they talk about how you all look like socially inept basement dwellers.
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    The thing that always amuses me about computer scientists is how they always seem to have a chip on their shoulder to say how their degree is just as well respected as the traditionally respected degrees. It is like they have been overlooked their whole lives whilst growing up, as being a bit weird, a bit niche. It is a different type of arrogance, one which is constantly in your face and desperate to push a view on to you. But because they suddenly have jobs and there is money in it, they expect everyone to suddenly see Computer Science as some great discipline. Whilst the views may change and it may become more respected in popular culture, right now people see computer scientists as being a bit odd. You only have to see the types of people who graduate from these courses to see what social types they are, they look odd. I can post photographs on here from Facebook to show you what they look like, but hey, that would be overstepping the mark a bit.
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    (Original post by SloaneRanger)
    Anyone can start up a company its £75 you just fill an online form with companies house, was thinking might even start up a business in "waste management". The problem being money is a reflection of success. You told your little brother jalebi the same thing from being a kid going to durham. He thought the same shortcut to money, to being a kid working in a bookie at 23/24 on payday loan and going to birmingham city uni. Everytime he write to me he is regretting listening to you. Imagine at 29-30 if you don't have £100k behind you out of earnt money and saves from work its incredibly bad. 10 years later your middle aged its worry. You get people owning homes at 21-22 now. Just regular folk, stop creating bad situations for others. Personally if my parents/family screwed my stuff over there would be more then breach of the peace. Share successes not failures!
    Tbh the guy is a moron for seriously taking advice from someone who has not made it yet. It is like these people on TSR who expect other students to have the answer... I would not trust these people as they are either looking to brag or are competitors. Note how lacking the actual practical advice is on these threads, yet these people ask the same questions over and over.

    There is the Google searchbox, it is very useful.
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    (Original post by Tom_Ford)
    No one likes computer scientists, you are seen as nerds. Pop culture sees you as socially inept weirdos. Also, looking at the types of people in your classes, you all look weird. Similarly to your idea about rather being unemployed than living in London. I would rather be unemployed than be a computer scientist.

    It was your choice to take C.S. , so inevitably you have to live with the stigma. When I ask girls what they think of computer scientistss they talk about how much money the industry is making. But along this same breath, they talk about how you all look like socially inept basement dwellers.
    Which is ironically what you are equivalent to now due to the fact you're unemployed. Bash on about us all you like but I'm going into a different sector, doing well, I lift weights and I'm seeing someone. This basement dweller who actually lives in a coastal apartment is distraught. Enjoy collecting your next dole payment.

    :lol:
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    (Original post by Tom_Ford)
    Tbh the guy is a moron for seriously taking advice from someone who has not made it yet. It is like these people on TSR who expect other students to have the answer... I would not trust these people as they are either looking to brag or are competitors. Note how lacking the actual practical advice is on these threads, yet these people ask the same questions over and over.

    There is the Google searchbox, it is very useful.
    Will look at that, because my goal by 27-28 £100k saved and thats after paying my 2nd set of uni fees. Even started voluntary contributions against student loan, it got depressing looking at it. Yeah, people that have made it are at Director level of big companies at my age, next step for me is that. Living with just hopes and dreams is not good enough, rational logic and perspective gets you to success. He is just plain lazy and he is bring others down with him.
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    (Original post by Sanctimonious)
    Which is ironically what you are equivalent to now due to the fact you're unemployed. Bash on about us all you like but I'm going into a different sector, doing well, I lift weights and I'm seeing someone. This basement dweller who actually lives in a coastal apartment is distraught. Enjoy collecting your next dole payment.

    :lol:
    Some people choose not be be employed. Sometimes its good to wait for the right opportunity, having many short employments at a certain age is bad. He is young, he can afford to be fussy someone at my age 26, can 't be. He is better making the right choice now then regretting it, i keep getting asked why B2B sales, when i looking at other sectors. They made me sound like a fool for not realising what i wanted to do at 23-24.
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    (Original post by Tom_Ford)
    The thing that always amuses me about computer scientists is how they always seem to have a chip on their shoulder to say how their degree is just as well respected as the traditionally respected degrees. It is like they have been overlooked their whole lives whilst growing up, as being a bit weird, a bit niche. It is a different type of arrogance, one which is constantly in your face and desperate to push a view on to you. But because they suddenly have jobs and there is money in it, they expect everyone to suddenly see Computer Science as some great discipline. Whilst the views may change and it may become more respected in popular culture, right now people see computer scientists as being a bit odd. You only have to see the types of people who graduate from these courses to see what social types they are, they look odd. I can post photographs on here from Facebook to show you what they look like, but hey, that would be overstepping the mark a bit.
    Says the guy who aspired to be this:

    http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/image...94770315_1.jpg

    :lol:
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    (Original post by Sanctimonious)
    Which is ironically what you are equivalent to now due to the fact you're unemployed. Bash on about us all you like but I'm going into a different sector, doing well, I lift weights and I'm seeing someone. This basement dweller who actually lives in a coastal apartment is distraught. Enjoy collecting your next dole payment.

    :lol:

    Why need a basement when I have several properties?

    You seem to think I would care if I required the dole... how presumptuous. If I needed it, I would actually find it quite funny that I am taking money off the taxpayer for basically doing nothing. You have a different moral code than me... evidently. In fact, if I could, I would sign on just to piss people like you off lol.
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    (Original post by Sanctimonious)
    Says the guy who aspired to be this:

    http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/image...94770315_1.jpg

    :lol:
    You are clearly hurt, it's ok. Your computer will love you.

    p.s. sure, I can pick some old looking IT guys too but frankly that would be a bit sad.
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    (Original post by SloaneRanger)
    Some people choose not be be employed.
    Yes, they're called scroungers.

    Sometimes its good to wait for the right opportunity, having many short employments at a certain age is bad. He is young, he can afford to be fussy someone at my age 26, can 't be. He is better making the right choice now then regretting it, i keep getting asked why B2B sales, when i looking at other sectors. They made me sound like a fool for not realising what i wanted to do at 23-24.
    He is young and unemployed and keeps mentioning it in threads so he clearly isn't happy with it. Bitter graduate on the JSA scrapheap hating on others who are doing rather fine springs to mind. Not my fault he has a chip on his shoulder.
 
 
 
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