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    (Original post by Smash Bandicoot)
    Well you make out that I am on 'the winning team', when I can assure you I'm regarded as one of the big klutzes of that team, and do not benefit from its rules at all

    Personal attacks in resorting to calling said people narcissistic

    Sexism goes both ways, something not every person understands, or chooses to ignore

    can you please respond now to my comments re: hypergamy, every woman I talk to on the issue skirts around it, and her comments elsewhere betray as such
    You do realise that people with genuine Narcissistic Personality Disorder are nothing at all similar to how you claim.

    I've said before (not to you), they are not necessarily the guy who spends too much time in the gym, or the guy who has one eye in the mirror, it's characterised not by a love of self, but rather by a love of the image others project of them. Imagine the story of Narcissus looking into the pool of water, he falls in love with his own reflection, for the narcissist, the pool of water is those with whom he surrounds himself.

    The point I am making is that Narcissism is not a strong trait, it's a complete emotional dependence upon others, they are like addicts and their drug is acclaim. They have extreme highs from being the centre of attention, being set apart by their peers, but on the other side, these people become extremely insecure if they don't receive narcissitic supply, approval etc. At the most extreme, they are known for fabricating achievements and even breaking down and begging for compliments. If you read redpill, you will know that these people have no real idea about psychology (they're ****ing rednecks dude).

    I am just saying, because I have seen guys like this in my life and whilst they're not forever alone virgins, women overall tend to find them insecure and annoying rather than masculine admirable.
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    (Original post by yo radical one)
    You do realise that people with genuine Narcissistic Personality Disorder are nothing at all similar to how you claim.

    I've said before (not to you), they are not necessarily the guy who spends too much time in the gym, or the guy who has one eye in the mirror, it's characterised not by a love of self, but rather by a love of the image others project of them. Imagine the story of Narcissus looking into the pool of water, he falls in love with his own reflection, for the narcissist, the pool of water is those with whom he surrounds himself.

    The point I am making is that Narcissism is not a strong trait, it's a complete emotional dependence upon others, they are like addicts and their drug is acclaim. They have extreme highs from being the centre of attention, being set apart by their peers, but on the other side, these people become extremely insecure if they don't receive narcissitic supply, approval etc. At the most extreme, they are known for fabricating achievements and even breaking down and begging for compliments. If you read redpill, you will know that these people have no real idea about psychology (they're ****ing rednecks dude).

    I am just saying, because I have seen guys like this in my life and whilst they're not forever alone virgins, women overall tend to find them insecure and annoying rather than masculine admirable.
    I'm aware my status anxiety is a bit needy-narcissistic if that is what you're getting at
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    (Original post by Smash Bandicoot)
    I'm aware my status anxiety is a bit needy-narcissistic if that is what you're getting at
    No actually, this is not what I am getting at.


    I am saying that the notion that Narcissism is a positive quality which with put you in a position where you are drowning in pussy, is completely false
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    What do you think?

    I have noticed that responses to most threads, apart from the degree/ offer holder/ job threads, posts start off being quite respectful, sociable and reasonable, and then the same names appear, and give their arrogant, narcissistic, self-centered, 'logical' and judgmental opinions. They are always male, often white, usually heterosexual. It's almost like a mental illness a lot of them have. I say white because most people in UK are white, and most users are from UK, and many of them have photos of themselves. But not always white(!).

    I've also noticed that they tend to dominate discussions on TSR. The same few boys/ young men appear everywhere, they are abusive, rude and dismissive and literally have acquired 'legend' status because of it. Does anyone else find this disturbing. I am new to TSR, why is this? Is this a thing you all know about?

    Also, I see the word sexist and misandry being used a lot, against the female posters who are brave enough to actually speak. This is something I've not encountered irl and my friendship group is mixed! Who are these boys/men? And why does everyone accept their abuse? I've literally watched threads descend into hatred, female posters being attacked for the views, or male posters saying the same thing, after abusing them, and being congratulated for their insight.

    I feel like there's something I'm missing Is there rule about males/females on here? Why are people so rude here?

    I thought about leaving because, was quite shocked, but you can't leave.There is no deactivate button? So would love to hear from people and your views, especially posters that don't usually post at all or feel silenced.

    Thanks
    I just asked a young 18-ish year old woman woman if she wanted an extremely hard-working, rich and high-status man, idolises Elom Husk I believe (?)

    and this is the response I finally, after many threads, began to get

    (Original post by TheonlyMrsHolmes)

    yes that's what we want, get over it you bitter virgin.

    in fairness she went on to explain this isn't gender-specific (see below)
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    (Original post by Smash Bandicoot)
    I just asked a young 18-ish year old woman woman if she wanted an extremely hard-working, rich and high-status man, idolises Elom Husk I believe (?)

    and this is the response I finally, after many threads, began to get
    No, I idolise hard-work, drive and passion in men and women. You wanted me to say it, so I said it... I just gave you what you wanted to hear :dontknow:
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    (Original post by TheonlyMrsHolmes)
    No, I idolise hard-work, drive and passion in men and women. You wanted me to say it, so I said it... I just gave you what you wanted to hear :dontknow:
    and there's nothing wrong with that, I wouldn't expect less. I am just worried about gold-digging and similar, and that emotions/personality/connection/compatibility etc. mean very little in the absence of LMS :/
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    (Original post by yo radical one)
    No actually, this is not what I am getting at.


    I am saying that the notion that Narcissism is a positive quality which with put you in a position where you are drowning in pussy, is completely false
    well yeah that's why older women hate 'pretty boys' e.g. Miscers is it not?
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    Just report them, the mods are understandably slow in some cases but they do a good job.
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    And just like OP said, the longer this forum went on the worse it got.
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    (Original post by Smash Bandicoot)
    and there's nothing wrong with that, I wouldn't expect less. I am just worried about gold-digging and similar, and that emotions/personality/connection/compatibility etc. mean very little in the absence of LMS :/
    What ever floats your goat Smash!
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    (Original post by Ikidyounot.)
    Also, it is quite apparent that you struggle to really consider any other standpoint aside from your own. You like to start and command discussions, rather than engage in discussions with other people.
    that is because I never command discussions IRL
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    (Original post by Ikidyounot.)
    At least you're honest. Why do you want to command conversations anyway?
    I am used to being controlled and silenced

    I just want to be heard #cri evritim
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    (Original post by MagicNMedicine)
    I think its because society is gradually becoming more progressive, those on the fringes are lashing out and are very active on the internet as its a place they can hide and be anonymous.

    In real life, if you start spouting off views about how much you hate Muslims, gay people, women, other races, poor people etc then very quickly people are going to think you are a knob. Now these people like to paint themselves as bastions of free speech sometimes by saying you should have the right to say what you want and we live in a censored world etc but actually there aren't as many laws against this as they make out. A lot of the time when someone in the public eye is forced to apologise/resign because of saying something controversial on the lines above, it's not because of any threat of legal action, it's because they get public backlash from people exercising their own right to free speech.

    The implication for all the people that have those racist/homophobic/misogynistic/anti-Islamic views is that they have soon learned they can't express them in real life to people around them because they will soon lose friends. Some of these people are completely obsessed by it - you can see on internet forums like this how they start multiple threads over and over again about the same issue (usually against Islam or feminism), it is something they think about all the time. Can you imagine hanging around someone that was always talking about Islam/feminism 24/7 you would just think they were the most boring/weird obsessed person ever. If they did it in real life they would soon have no friends and be seen as a loser.

    So they get forced on to the internet where they can hide their true identity and talk about it and also thats where they will find the other people that think like them who can agree with them.

    TSR is not unusual to be saturated with these type of people, it's what the internet is like. Look at youtube, any video that has a significant number of comments will soon turn in to an argument about race/slavery/Ku Klux Klan or Islam v the West. Also if you find any forum that caters for a niche interest (sport, a hobby etc) if they have an 'off topic' or 'politics' subforum it is like TSR, you get some obsessed posters posting continually about how much they hate Islam or how feminism is destroying society.

    Now if you look at the internet as being representative of society you can get a view that disappoints you about society but it's actually the opposite situation - the people with these kind of aggressive views feel marginalised because most people today don't agree with them in the way that in the past they might have done so they resort to being more active online.
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    (Original post by Ikidyounot.)
    I find that quite offensive. You don't know what it means to be silenced. People like you.
    and you don't know my family background, or my childhood experience, or (perhaps?) life as a known mentally ill person…your point being?

    I listen to feminists quite a lot on here, some I agree with, some I don't. I actually mostly agree with you, but I sense you want to blame me as a man for something right now
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    (Original post by Ikidyounot.)
    You sounded as if you were trivialising.

    But don't you know, that the mere fact you come on here and start telling people you need to command conversations because you aren't able to irl makes your privileged. Who else have you heard doing that? I'm not trying to invalidate your experience, I'm trying to explain why you don't have a right to do the same to others. Ever heard of solidarity? You spend all of your time railing against people you claim to understand.
    I was trivialising in that I was bitter and frustrated, men aren't allow to be too openly emotional without fearing judgment, it's a break from Frame, the only way you can discuss it is to seem that you are joking or don't really care, but no I do take it seriously...

    …probably heard a few other guys, none of us are particularly in the right.

    I'll be honest, when I post on such threads I am procrastinating, I don't have enough info and my arguments won't fully make sense, they are straw men designed to make me ruminate and obsess so I forget I have other things to do. So I apologise for wasting your time, nonetheless I do understand that there is more work to do re: 'men's issues' int he area of feminism, I need to learn more about that. I also need to read up on the specific individual issues for women in practice, rather than theory (which is my strong point)

    I'm going to leave you be to put forward your arguments here now, thanks have a good evening
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    (Original post by Ikidyounot.)
    Of course sir, the conversation ends when you wish it to, sir.
    no need to be snarky, you can always stop posting when you like too. I think you'll have more productive debate with other people, I agree with you on a lot, and sense I will derail my own arguments to your detriment. So, I'm leaving you be!

    This is what frustrates me with some feminists, until the roles have been reversed and men are licking their shoes, 'equality' has not been achieved. If this is equal, they you know I hold no power over you, and you none over me. Therefore, we are both free to leave the conversation at any time we like.
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    (Original post by perspiracious)
    His monologues will make any pussy dry. So you're correct in saying that drowning in pussy is one less hazard he needs not to worry about.
    I genuinely hold the belief he will do well with girls in the end, but that he won't properly get over his hang ups.

    Still be 30 years old, trying to **** girls in clubs, but even if he does well, there is an element of trying to make up for lost time/get this sense of approval
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    The recent threads on this site would make it seem that way, but by stereotyping them you are just as bad as the posts they put up.
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    (Original post by skd1996)
    The recent threads on this site would make it seem that way, but by stereotyping them you are just as bad as the posts they put up.
    They're not recent, TSR has been this way since late 2012.
    And yes thank you, stereotypes :cool:
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    (Original post by Smash Bandicoot)
    They're not recent, TSR has been this way since late 2012.
    And yes thank you, stereotypes :cool:
    Really? Since then? I've only started noticing it recently, but I guess I didn't see those threads because I wasn't 'looking' for them as such?

    I do feel that if girls don't want rude, stereotyped threads about them, then it shouldn't be done to the guys either.
 
 
 
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