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    (Original post by Ali1302)
    What would you do if someone pulled out a knife or gun at you?
    This is exactly why we have gun prohibition...
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    (Original post by James Milibanter)
    This is exactly why we have gun prohibition...
    Again dumb logic. Gun prohibition doesn't prevent violent crimes in this country and huge civilian losses by terrorists/criminals would be inevitable. We should have the right to bear arms in this country and defend ourselves, rather than rely on an underfunded military/police force and become controlled by a government bureaucracy.
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    (Original post by Ali1302)
    Again dumb logic. Gun prohibition doesn't prevent violent crimes in this country
    yes it does.

    and huge civilian losses by terrorists/criminals would be inevitable.
    Because there's no terrorism in the USA of course...

    We should have the right to bear arms in this country and defend ourselves
    Defend ourselves from what? other people with guns? The right to bear arms is beyond counterproductive
    rather than rely on an underfunded military/police force and become controlled by a government bureaucracy.
    How about we further fund our police force then? or further devolve power to them?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Is it? Are we allowed to talk about anything or should we remain silent for a few months to be on the safe side, call an end to the parliament but don't bring the election forwards maybe?
    At least allow enough time for the country to mourn.
    (Original post by Ali1302)
    This is one of the main issues in Europe, censorship. Gun prohibition is one of the greatest mistakes ever made in the UK and is a major infringement on peoples right to defend themselves. We are basically a defenseless civilian population that is fully reliant on authorities for security, we have completely lost all of our freedom to a government bureaucracy. Everything from our education to healthcare is controlled by the government and now we lose our freedom of speech to special interest groups and the political correctness police who dictate speech. The law is simply a means to regulate peoples behavior and has nothing to do with what's right or justice anymore. It's time we took back our freedom to bear arms and defend ourselves from these terrorists/criminals, we can't rely on our underfunded military/police any longer.
    I will not enter into this argument as I am too far off my noggin.
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    (Original post by thehistorybore)
    At least allow enough time for the country to mourn.


    I will not enter into this argument as I am too far off my noggin.
    Mourning achieves nothing.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Well, that was about as reactionary as expected.

    The threat level shouldn't be raised to critical, that is for expectation of an imminent terrorist (or nuclear) attack, not for allies being attacked, and will negatively impact the country for no reason what so ever, I trust those working at JTAC and in the intelligence services are correct not to make this elevation.

    Second, I do not feel it necessary to deeply men to the French embassy unless the embassy itself requests the met to do so, they will have their own security and it sends the !message that this government is either withholding information, or that they believe the French security to be poor, it should merely be a reiteration that we are willing to deploy men should they want them.

    Finally, whilst maybe the match tomorrow should be rescheduled, and probably would be regardless, the friendly at Wembley should not be done behind closed doors, but extra vigilance and security should be advised.

    This statement merely does what the terrorists want: to cause panic and disruption.

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    agree with this
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Mourning achieves nothing.

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    Quite right, but it is a part of human nature and is thus the right thing to do.
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    (Original post by WalkingAbortion)
    agree with this
    I think I've answered all this on the first or second page

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    (Original post by thehistorybore)
    Quite right, but it is a part of human nature and is thus the right thing to do.
    As much as I agree with your sentiment it has to be said that that's a rather flimsy argument; there's certainly a big difference between 'natural' and 'moral'.
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    (Original post by thehistorybore)
    Quite right, but it is a part of human nature and is thus the right thing to do.
    Why does nature=>correct? Everybody else might be arbitrarily sentimental over people they don't know, but I don't intends to let my life grind to a hope just because about a gross of people got killed 500 miles away; it achieves a grant total of nothing, I really cannot stand this whole pretending to care crap, I hate terrorist attacks not because of the attack itself, but how everybody reacts to it, how everybody changes profile pictures left rihgt and centre because somehow they think that actually means anything, that helps, it's like all the armchair activism we have today where people think that if they type a few lines on the internet and sign a meaningless change.org petition the world will change.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Why does nature=>correct? Everybody else might be arbitrarily sentimental over people they don't know, but I don't intends to let my life grind to a hope just because about a gross of people got killed 500 miles away; it achieves a grant total of nothing, I really cannot stand this whole pretending to care crap, I hate terrorist attacks not because of the attack itself, but how everybody reacts to it, how everybody changes profile pictures left rihgt and centre because somehow they think that actually means anything, that helps, it's like all the armchair activism we have today where people think that if they type a few lines on the internet and sign a meaningless change.org petition the world will change.
    I'm not going to debate this, but I fundamentally disagree with the idea that it's fine to immediately politicise tragedies such as this.
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    (Original post by Saoirse:3)
    As much as I agree with your sentiment it has to be said that that's a rather flimsy argument; there's certainly a big difference between 'natural' and 'moral'.
    Perhaps so, but it is the sentiment above all.
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    (Original post by Ali1302)
    Dumbest logic ever and please grow up.
    Didn't you just argue that the UK should have the right to bear arms? Pot calling kettle here.

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    (Original post by thehistorybore)
    I'm not going to debate this, but I fundamentally disagree with the idea that it's fine to immediately politicise tragedies such as this.
    Is that ultimately not what a lot of those'being sympathetic' are doing though? And if you don't politicise it how exactly do you act against it?

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Is that ultimately not what a lot of those'being sympathetic' are doing though? And if you don't politicise it how exactly do you act against it?

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    You don't; you wait for the situation to simmer down so that there's enough distance to consider the facts objectively. The politicisers tend to be equally as overexcited as the families of the victims are traumatised. Neither party would be able to consider whether Europeans should all walk about armed to the teeth or not, as the Americans seem to be enjoying doing at the moment.
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    (Original post by Birchington)
    Government Statement on the Paris Terrorist AttacksThis Government condemns the terrible attacks on Paris late on Friday night, and all such attacks on civilians, in the strongest possible terms. We will stand in solidarity with France and will be happy to provide assistance in anyway possible.

    As a result, given the seemingly indiscriminate choice to target Paris amongst the major cities of other NATO members involved in recent conflicts, and in recognition of the potential for British cities to be targeted as part of this, the Government is considering raising the threat level from severe to critical. Firearms units from all territorial police forces are to be immediately placed on standby ready to respond with the utmost urgency in the event of an incident. The Specialist Firearms Command of the Metropolitan Police is also to be sent immediately to the French embassy in London to protect against any possible attack related to tonight’s events in Paris.

    The Government has decided to delegate the power of closing our ports and airports to the Intelligence services and allow them to further assess the risk to our nation.

    Given the fact that England host France in an international football friendly at Wembley this coming Tuesday, the Government will recommend to the relevant parties that the game is played behind closed doors. Television and radio coverage will continue to be available as normal.

    The Government has been informed that all French borders are now closed until further notice, and is also aware that Glasgow Warriors are due to play Racing 92 in a European rugby game in Paris tomorrow afternoon. Until a decision is made by the French authorities or EPCR as to whether that game will go ahead, it is emphasised that diplomatic staff are available in Paris to provide essential services and contacts, and will be able to provide emergency euros, to rugby fans and all other British citizens in Paris for as long as the border remains closed. We urge the relevant authorities to ensure safety remains the top priority given the terrible circumstances, and consider whether these matches can safely proceed with a crowd in attendance.

    The United Kingdom will continue to stand up against terrorism, and we will not rest until all those responsible for these attacks are brought to justice. Such attacks can never be justified, and our utmost priority at this difficult time is the protection of civilians by whatever means prove necessary.
    The answer isn't having armed services on standby, the answer is stopping these people from entering our country in the first place. These people are our enemy, and I don't understand why our governments are so determined to have them as part of our society
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    (Original post by thehistorybore)
    You don't; you wait for the situation to simmer down so that there's enough distance to consider the facts objectively. The politicisers tend to be equally as overexcited as the families of the victims are traumatised. Neither party would be able to consider whether Europeans should all walk about armed to the teeth or not, as the Americans seem to be enjoying doing at the moment.
    Or people stop being so overly emotionally driven that there is such a problem

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Or people stop being so overly emotionally driven that there is such a problem

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    And how would you do that?
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    (Original post by thehistorybore)
    And how would you do that?
    I have no idea, no doubt it would at least theoretically be possible in the future, it is one of the massive flaws of humanity though
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    (Original post by zigglr)
    The answer isn't having armed services on standby, the answer is stopping these people from entering our country in the first place. These people are our enemy, and I don't understand why our governments are so determined to have them as part of our society
    We're obviously not inviting ISIL through our front doors into our country, but closing the borders is quite clearly not the answer.
 
 
 
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