Does rape culture exist? (POLL)
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Original post by Mancini
lol you just sound like another feminist looking to create a world where you are viewed as a female who is a victim none of these subtleties you mention have anything to do with rape. You don't live in this society/world having the right not to ever happen to encounter things you may find offensive or not to your taste, so really all you need to do is grow up.
If rape culture does exist in the west (which really doesn't exist) feminists created it , in my view the only form of rape culture that exists in the west is the institutionalised rules of bias imposed in law by feminists who think it is right to strip a men of his children and children of their fathers that's the real so called rape culture going on.
Don't send nude pictures to people assuming they won't share them to people, understand the possiblity of it being exposed it's your own fault as a person if you take such a risk. Instead now you feminists want to create further laws that protect you from your own stupidity. It's like you will never understand that what you do is your responsibility and what you choose to do may also have bad consequences, so you need daddy government to punish others for your mistake.
If rape culture does exist in the west (which really doesn't exist) feminists created it , in my view the only form of rape culture that exists in the west is the institutionalised rules of bias imposed in law by feminists who think it is right to strip a men of his children and children of their fathers that's the real so called rape culture going on.
Don't send nude pictures to people assuming they won't share them to people, understand the possiblity of it being exposed it's your own fault as a person if you take such a risk. Instead now you feminists want to create further laws that protect you from your own stupidity. It's like you will never understand that what you do is your responsibility and what you choose to do may also have bad consequences, so you need daddy government to punish others for your mistake.
'lol you just sound like another feminist' oh my LORD. I haven't created a world, I LIVE in it.
'its your own fault as a person if you take such a risk'
'your own stupidity'
I suppose you also think that girl in the Adam Johnson case was a dicktease, don't you? You're just the type of person to victim blame, to say that its fine to show people pictures sent to you in privacy - its their fault anyway.
It's her fault she got into a taxi by herself, or didn't watch her drink.
It's my fault I wear skirts on my way back to work isn't it? It's MY fault that I got followed home.
Guess what. It's not my fault. It's not her fault. It's society's fault.
Original post by birdie95
'lol you just sound like another feminist' oh my LORD. I haven't created a world, I LIVE in it.
'its your own fault as a person if you take such a risk'
'your own stupidity'
I suppose you also think that girl in the Adam Johnson case was a dicktease, don't you? You're just the type of person to victim blame, to say that its fine to show people pictures sent to you in privacy - its their fault anyway.
It's her fault she got into a taxi by herself, or didn't watch her drink.
It's my fault I wear skirts on my way back to work isn't it? It's MY fault that I got followed home.
Guess what. It's not my fault. It's not her fault. It's society's fault.
'its your own fault as a person if you take such a risk'
'your own stupidity'
I suppose you also think that girl in the Adam Johnson case was a dicktease, don't you? You're just the type of person to victim blame, to say that its fine to show people pictures sent to you in privacy - its their fault anyway.
It's her fault she got into a taxi by herself, or didn't watch her drink.
It's my fault I wear skirts on my way back to work isn't it? It's MY fault that I got followed home.
Guess what. It's not my fault. It's not her fault. It's society's fault.
The girl in the Adam Johnson case was old enough to know right from wrong, I won't blame her but I'm not necasserily gonna have full sympathies for her. We all know very well what young girls are capable of at such an age. This does not mean I support Adam Johnsons actions, however, the girl is not without fault.
You have thrown a barrage of pointless hypotheticals at me which I won't even bother responding to , once again just shows what you are about playing a victim.
Not sure what you mean by it's society's fault. Also guess what victims are never to blame but we can also prevent ourselves from being victims by taking good measures but of course being a feminist you would just see this as further victim blaming.
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Original post by birdie95
'lol you just sound like another feminist' oh my LORD. I haven't created a world, I LIVE in it.
'its your own fault as a person if you take such a risk'
'your own stupidity'
I suppose you also think that girl in the Adam Johnson case was a dicktease, don't you? You're just the type of person to victim blame, to say that its fine to show people pictures sent to you in privacy - its their fault anyway.
It's her fault she got into a taxi by herself, or didn't watch her drink.
It's my fault I wear skirts on my way back to work isn't it? It's MY fault that I got followed home.
Guess what. It's not my fault. It's not her fault. It's society's fault.
'its your own fault as a person if you take such a risk'
'your own stupidity'
I suppose you also think that girl in the Adam Johnson case was a dicktease, don't you? You're just the type of person to victim blame, to say that its fine to show people pictures sent to you in privacy - its their fault anyway.
It's her fault she got into a taxi by herself, or didn't watch her drink.
It's my fault I wear skirts on my way back to work isn't it? It's MY fault that I got followed home.
Guess what. It's not my fault. It's not her fault. It's society's fault.
Actually I would disagree. The burden of risk remains the fault of the victim. I would not walk down a dark alley at night because I don't want to get mugged. Similarly if they do the same then they are INCREASING the risk of rape.
Original post by Kates DavidIt`s not a statement of fact, it is merely a,suggestion -. What sometimes happens when one takes weaker drugs? One sometimes enjoys them, and wants to take it to the next level. Are you defending yourself ? - My suggestion is far from ridiculous. Also to be considered is that there are nude pictures and then there are seriously pornographic, whilst still nude, pictures.
My theory is that whilst this industry serves as a safety release for some men, it may lead to progression into real life/rape for others. It may tend to work best to reduce risk in that group of men which are already regularly raping. This would be what `I`d expect to be the case anyway, but it would require to be heavy porn. I`d expect that they might possible rape slightly less often, and significantly less if there was also a prevailing fear of being court.
The reverse of my psychology is obviously also possible, but I currently believe that, where applicable to this group at least, that the reverse affect would apply to significantly fewer. Overall I do believe that picture porn is having a very marked effect on attitudes, that it`s presence is more than enough to turn otherwise borderline rapists into regular rapists. I find it totally ridiculous to imagine otherwise.. Porn lowers standards.
Manc So you are saying that the lads think there is a rape culture? That would really surprise me
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(Original post by Kates David)
Nude pictures may lead to rape. We could discuss this??That is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard 
My theory is that whilst this industry serves as a safety release for some men, it may lead to progression into real life/rape for others. It may tend to work best to reduce risk in that group of men which are already regularly raping. This would be what `I`d expect to be the case anyway, but it would require to be heavy porn. I`d expect that they might possible rape slightly less often, and significantly less if there was also a prevailing fear of being court.
The reverse of my psychology is obviously also possible, but I currently believe that, where applicable to this group at least, that the reverse affect would apply to significantly fewer. Overall I do believe that picture porn is having a very marked effect on attitudes, that it`s presence is more than enough to turn otherwise borderline rapists into regular rapists. I find it totally ridiculous to imagine otherwise.. Porn lowers standards.
Manc
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What surprises me about this poll is that clearly the large majority of voters do not think there is a rape culture in the west yet in the lad culture poll from another thread so many voters voted it as if it's a reality.
No not at all I would say the great majority of people who voted that a lad culture does indeed exist in that poll and who wished to demonise young males were feminists. I don't personally believe there is any such thing as lad culture.
(Original post by Kates David)It`s not a statement of fact, it is merely a,suggestion -. What sometimes happens when one takes weaker drugs? One sometimes enjoys them, and wants to take it to the next level. Are you defending yourself ? - My suggestion is far from ridiculous. Also to be considered is that there are nude pictures and then there are seriously pornographic, whilst still nude, pictures.
My theory is that whilst this industry serves as a safety release for some men, it may lead to progression into real life/rape for others. It may tend to work best to reduce risk in that group of men which are already regularly raping. This would be what `I`d expect to be the case anyway, but it would require to be heavy porn. I`d expect that they might possible rape slightly less often, and significantly less if there was also a prevailing fear of being court.
The reverse of my psychology is obviously also possible, but I currently believe that, where applicable to this group at least, that the reverse affect would apply to significantly fewer. Overall I do believe that picture porn is having a very marked effect on attitudes, that it`s presence is more than enough to turn otherwise borderline rapists into regular rapists. I find it totally ridiculous to imagine otherwise.
Many women watch porn you know it's not just men. Stop trying to attack men and paint them as monsters.
The debate is rape, so suggest to me then how one addresses this subject without looking at why those men that rape , it`s comparatively common, do so???? - How can one be "nice" when looking at rape?
I don`t look at porn, I believe for solid reason, I`m male, but I can find little reason why most females should not engage with porn.
Manc
That`s exactly what I`d expect to be the case.
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(Original post by Kates David)
Nude pictures may lead to rape. We could discuss this??That is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard
My theory is that whilst this industry serves as a safety release for some men, it may lead to progression into real life/rape for others. It may tend to work best to reduce risk in that group of men which are already regularly raping. This would be what `I`d expect to be the case anyway, but it would require to be heavy porn. I`d expect that they might possible rape slightly less often, and significantly less if there was also a prevailing fear of being court.
The reverse of my psychology is obviously also possible, but I currently believe that, where applicable to this group at least, that the reverse affect would apply to significantly fewer. Overall I do believe that picture porn is having a very marked effect on attitudes, that it`s presence is more than enough to turn otherwise borderline rapists into regular rapists. I find it totally ridiculous to imagine otherwise.
Many women watch porn you know it's not just men. Stop trying to attack men and paint them as monsters.
The debate is rape, so suggest to me then how one addresses this subject without looking at why those men that rape , it`s comparatively common, do so???? - How can one be "nice" when looking at rape?
I don`t look at porn, I believe for solid reason, I`m male, but I can find little reason why most females should not engage with porn.
Manc
That`s exactly what I`d expect to be the case.
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"You said "Why do you think men are avoiding us now" and I believe it is because the realise how a accusation alone can ruin their life even if there is no evidence"
Yes, but not here of course. I think it is because they wish to avoid thinking, they wish to avoid discovering the truth of themselves, and they can also avoid thinking by coming here with a purely emotional response.. Not all, men, even when led there, will be reduced to their innate drives, and many are human beings, not merely human animals. The big problem is in knowing which are which.
Bird has introduced a lot of the statistics. I believe that the best informed in the UK are The NSPCC, at least where it concerns the under eighteens, likely because this group are the most trusted. They are certainly the most important group. Their statistics are published. My posts are all back?? Madison, my 24 yr old lodger, was raped, beaten, even had attempts on her life, but has complained officially to nobody. This for fear of her former, a psychopath, losing the children to care. I`d prefer the care option, but 1`m not their mother. There are many other cases like this, and where men rape with impunity.
Mad would have complained to the judge in Family Court, two years back now, but this man refused to hear any of her evidence. There was a £16000 exchange made on his behalf, which won him a house,and he went on to regularly rape Mad,despite her no longer living with him. This was handed out in return for the lives of her children. This guy, he`s a narcissistic psychopathic "killer" was too smart for a judge, and has a massed following of male friends. You find a lot of professional idiots (too much sociology) around family court proceedings, and Mad`s current boyfriend is unfortunately one as well.
The one hour volume weighted punching world record. That`s me on you tube. I`m taking a weekly slot.
Manc
Nude pictures may lead to rape. We could discuss this??
Yes, but not here of course. I think it is because they wish to avoid thinking, they wish to avoid discovering the truth of themselves, and they can also avoid thinking by coming here with a purely emotional response.. Not all, men, even when led there, will be reduced to their innate drives, and many are human beings, not merely human animals. The big problem is in knowing which are which.
Bird has introduced a lot of the statistics. I believe that the best informed in the UK are The NSPCC, at least where it concerns the under eighteens, likely because this group are the most trusted. They are certainly the most important group. Their statistics are published. My posts are all back?? Madison, my 24 yr old lodger, was raped, beaten, even had attempts on her life, but has complained officially to nobody. This for fear of her former, a psychopath, losing the children to care. I`d prefer the care option, but 1`m not their mother. There are many other cases like this, and where men rape with impunity.
Mad would have complained to the judge in Family Court, two years back now, but this man refused to hear any of her evidence. There was a £16000 exchange made on his behalf, which won him a house,and he went on to regularly rape Mad,despite her no longer living with him. This was handed out in return for the lives of her children. This guy, he`s a narcissistic psychopathic "killer" was too smart for a judge, and has a massed following of male friends. You find a lot of professional idiots (too much sociology) around family court proceedings, and Mad`s current boyfriend is unfortunately one as well.
The one hour volume weighted punching world record. That`s me on you tube. I`m taking a weekly slot.
Manc
Nude pictures may lead to rape. We could discuss this??
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Original post by Kates David
"You said "Why do you think men are avoiding us now" and I believe it is because the realise how a accusation alone can ruin their life even if there is no evidence"
Yes, but not here of course. I think it is because they wish to avoid thinking, they wish to avoid discovering the truth of themselves, and they can also avoid thinking by coming here with a purely emotional response.. Not all, men, even when led there, will be reduced to their innate drives, and many are human beings, not merely human animals. The big problem is in knowing which are which.
Bird has introduced a lot of the statistics. I believe that the best informed in the UK are The NSPCC, at least where it concerns the under eighteens, likely because this group are the most trusted. They are certainly the most important group. Their statistics are published. My posts are all back?? Madison, my 24 yr old lodger, was raped, beaten, even had attempts on her life, but has complained officially to nobody. This for fear of her former, a psychopath, losing the children to care. I`d prefer the care option, but 1`m not their mother. There are many other cases like this, and where men rape with impunity.
Mad would have complained to the judge in Family Court, two years back now, but this man refused to hear any of her evidence. There was a £16000 exchange made on his behalf, which won him a house,and he went on to regularly rape Mad,despite her no longer living with him. This was handed out in return for the lives of her children. This guy, he`s a narcissistic psychopathic "killer" was too smart for a judge, and has a massed following of male friends. You find a lot of professional idiots (too much sociology) around family court proceedings, and Mad`s current boyfriend is unfortunately one as well.
The one hour volume weighted punching world record. That`s me on you tube. I`m taking a weekly slot.
Manc
Nude pictures may lead to rape. We could discuss this??
Yes, but not here of course. I think it is because they wish to avoid thinking, they wish to avoid discovering the truth of themselves, and they can also avoid thinking by coming here with a purely emotional response.. Not all, men, even when led there, will be reduced to their innate drives, and many are human beings, not merely human animals. The big problem is in knowing which are which.
Bird has introduced a lot of the statistics. I believe that the best informed in the UK are The NSPCC, at least where it concerns the under eighteens, likely because this group are the most trusted. They are certainly the most important group. Their statistics are published. My posts are all back?? Madison, my 24 yr old lodger, was raped, beaten, even had attempts on her life, but has complained officially to nobody. This for fear of her former, a psychopath, losing the children to care. I`d prefer the care option, but 1`m not their mother. There are many other cases like this, and where men rape with impunity.
Mad would have complained to the judge in Family Court, two years back now, but this man refused to hear any of her evidence. There was a £16000 exchange made on his behalf, which won him a house,and he went on to regularly rape Mad,despite her no longer living with him. This was handed out in return for the lives of her children. This guy, he`s a narcissistic psychopathic "killer" was too smart for a judge, and has a massed following of male friends. You find a lot of professional idiots (too much sociology) around family court proceedings, and Mad`s current boyfriend is unfortunately one as well.
The one hour volume weighted punching world record. That`s me on you tube. I`m taking a weekly slot.
Manc
Nude pictures may lead to rape. We could discuss this??
So you didn't like the reply you got so you post the same thing.
Sometimes things exist individually and looking at dots to connect them together leads you to wrong conclusions.
So part 1 of that post all men are rapists they may not actually rape but they want to.Not true go outside find some normal people.
A court has rules regarding evidence so if you are suggesting that the judge ignored important evidence which is admissible evidence I would recommend appealing the judgement.
By a £16000 exchange made I am guessing you mean payment and not bribing a judge but that is a area of law called property law if you feel it was applied incorrectly look to appeal but how does this show a rape culture?
Was he too smart or was the law just on his side on the issues that the court was dealing with?A man has friends that is proof of rape culture men shouldn't have friends.Lots of professional idiots that must be why women gain custody in most cases.
Original post by Kates David
(Original post by Kates David)It`s not a statement of fact, it is merely a,suggestion -. What sometimes happens when one takes weaker drugs? One sometimes enjoys them, and wants to take it to the next level. Are you defending yourself ? - My suggestion is far from ridiculous. Also to be considered is that there are nude pictures and then there are seriously pornographic, whilst still nude, pictures.
My theory is that whilst this industry serves as a safety release for some men, it may lead to progression into real life/rape for others. It may tend to work best to reduce risk in that group of men which are already regularly raping. This would be what `I`d expect to be the case anyway, but it would require to be heavy porn. I`d expect that they might possible rape slightly less often, and significantly less if there was also a prevailing fear of being court.
The reverse of my psychology is obviously also possible, but I currently believe that, where applicable to this group at least, that the reverse affect would apply to significantly fewer. Overall I do believe that picture porn is having a very marked effect on attitudes, that it`s presence is more than enough to turn otherwise borderline rapists into regular rapists. I find it totally ridiculous to imagine otherwise.
Many women watch porn you know it's not just men. Stop trying to attack men and paint them as monsters.
The debate is rape, so suggest to me then how one addresses this subject without looking at why those men that rape , it`s comparatively common, do so???? - How can one be "nice" when looking at rape?
I don`t look at porn, I believe for solid reason, I`m male, but I can find little reason why most females should not engage with porn.
Manc
That`s exactly what I`d expect to be the case.
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(Original post by Kates David)
Nude pictures may lead to rape. We could discuss this??That is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard
My theory is that whilst this industry serves as a safety release for some men, it may lead to progression into real life/rape for others. It may tend to work best to reduce risk in that group of men which are already regularly raping. This would be what `I`d expect to be the case anyway, but it would require to be heavy porn. I`d expect that they might possible rape slightly less often, and significantly less if there was also a prevailing fear of being court.
The reverse of my psychology is obviously also possible, but I currently believe that, where applicable to this group at least, that the reverse affect would apply to significantly fewer. Overall I do believe that picture porn is having a very marked effect on attitudes, that it`s presence is more than enough to turn otherwise borderline rapists into regular rapists. I find it totally ridiculous to imagine otherwise.
Many women watch porn you know it's not just men. Stop trying to attack men and paint them as monsters.
The debate is rape, so suggest to me then how one addresses this subject without looking at why those men that rape , it`s comparatively common, do so???? - How can one be "nice" when looking at rape?
I don`t look at porn, I believe for solid reason, I`m male, but I can find little reason why most females should not engage with porn.
Manc
That`s exactly what I`d expect to be the case.
The debate may well be rape but the debate is not suggesting it's only men who rape.
As I stated before many women do watch porn so you just need to get with the times.
Original post by Mancini
The debate may well be rape but the debate is not suggesting it's only men who rape.
As I stated before many women do watch porn so you just need to get with the times.
As I stated before many women do watch porn so you just need to get with the times.
Women looking at porn is harmless though, and my biggest fantasy would be to be "raped" by females. if indeed it were possible. After being raped by a man you`d fast forget being raped by a girl! Try it and see.
Original post by Kates David
Women looking at porn is harmless though, and my biggest fantasy would be to be "raped" by females. if indeed it were possible. After being raped by a man you`d fast forget being raped by a girl! Try it and see.
Never knew rape was a competition, you should seek help.
So you didn't like the reply you got so you post the same thing.
Sometimes things exist individually and looking at dots to connect them together leads you to wrong conclusions.
So part 1 of that post all men are rapists they may not actually rape but they want to.Not true go outside find some normal people.
A court has rules regarding evidence so if you are suggesting that the judge ignored important evidence which is admissible evidence I would recommend appealing the judgement.
By a £16000 exchange made I am guessing you mean payment and not bribing a judge but that is a area of law called property law if you feel it was applied incorrectly look to appeal but how does this show a rape culture?
Was he too smart or was the law just on his side on the issues that the court was dealing with?A man has friends that is proof of rape culture men shouldn't have friends.Lots of professional idiots that must be why women gain custody in most cases.
I did like the reply, but was n`t sure that you`d all read that post.
True, so which are my wrong conclusions, if any? - I have sixty years of life experience to draw from now.
It`s not me that claimed that all men want to rape! - the human animals do/can do, and the human beings never under any circumstance.
Next two already answered in previous post.
Was the law oh his side? - Well, there was no law. There were men, but no law, and yes, he was too smart, so smart that judgement was made without the facts/evidence. That`s not to suggest that he is all that smart however. That judge might have a "kill my patients" mentality. He might just as well have..
Women gain custody in most cases, still true, but this new, "look at me" trend in thinking, that both parents are as equally important, I strongly revoke. The mother, everything being equal, should always be first base. Nothing replaces a mother`s love, not even the father`s, not entirely. Not until such time as fathers become biological mothers, so hopefully never.
All the rest previously answered. It does n`t show a rape culture, but it sure does support one. It is just one example of the legal system not recognizing a rapist even when he`s in court, and with his victim beside him. The most considerate accusation towards that judge is that he`s an idiot. It might be far worse?
Mad was before him again last week on an entirely separate matter, and again, he refused to know any of the evidence. Men like these apparently prejudge you on the basis of your social background. They are full of sociological garbage, and are all the more arrogant for it. The stuff they spoon feed you, and tell you is so good. You lose any instinct for people which you may have first had, natural ability here being almost everything..
Where it concerns rape, those of you that are female are far better off not switching gender, trust me on that. It could so easily come back to haunt you.
I say professional idiots, because of all those professionals put her way to help her none helped, and some even made her suffering worse. For instance, the social workers did n`t even know to agree with her that she`d be better off dead before attempting their rescue. - They lacked empathy in spades!
Sometimes things exist individually and looking at dots to connect them together leads you to wrong conclusions.
So part 1 of that post all men are rapists they may not actually rape but they want to.Not true go outside find some normal people.
A court has rules regarding evidence so if you are suggesting that the judge ignored important evidence which is admissible evidence I would recommend appealing the judgement.
By a £16000 exchange made I am guessing you mean payment and not bribing a judge but that is a area of law called property law if you feel it was applied incorrectly look to appeal but how does this show a rape culture?
Was he too smart or was the law just on his side on the issues that the court was dealing with?A man has friends that is proof of rape culture men shouldn't have friends.Lots of professional idiots that must be why women gain custody in most cases.
I did like the reply, but was n`t sure that you`d all read that post.
True, so which are my wrong conclusions, if any? - I have sixty years of life experience to draw from now.
It`s not me that claimed that all men want to rape! - the human animals do/can do, and the human beings never under any circumstance.
Next two already answered in previous post.
Was the law oh his side? - Well, there was no law. There were men, but no law, and yes, he was too smart, so smart that judgement was made without the facts/evidence. That`s not to suggest that he is all that smart however. That judge might have a "kill my patients" mentality. He might just as well have..
Women gain custody in most cases, still true, but this new, "look at me" trend in thinking, that both parents are as equally important, I strongly revoke. The mother, everything being equal, should always be first base. Nothing replaces a mother`s love, not even the father`s, not entirely. Not until such time as fathers become biological mothers, so hopefully never.
All the rest previously answered. It does n`t show a rape culture, but it sure does support one. It is just one example of the legal system not recognizing a rapist even when he`s in court, and with his victim beside him. The most considerate accusation towards that judge is that he`s an idiot. It might be far worse?
Mad was before him again last week on an entirely separate matter, and again, he refused to know any of the evidence. Men like these apparently prejudge you on the basis of your social background. They are full of sociological garbage, and are all the more arrogant for it. The stuff they spoon feed you, and tell you is so good. You lose any instinct for people which you may have first had, natural ability here being almost everything..
Where it concerns rape, those of you that are female are far better off not switching gender, trust me on that. It could so easily come back to haunt you.
I say professional idiots, because of all those professionals put her way to help her none helped, and some even made her suffering worse. For instance, the social workers did n`t even know to agree with her that she`d be better off dead before attempting their rescue. - They lacked empathy in spades!
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Original post by IAmNero
Actually I would disagree. The burden of risk remains the fault of the victim. I would not walk down a dark alley at night because I don't want to get mugged. Similarly if they do the same then they are INCREASING the risk of rape.
With being mugged its different because you are walking down an alley.
With rape, people blame it on the clothes or that the girl was drinking. This is different because it is something which is part of the person. Me walking into a bad neighbourhood at night isn't going to end up well and I accept that. However, if I were to do standard activities just like my mail counterparts and get raped then it was my fault and I should've been more careful.
If you walk into a bad neighbourhood with your iPhone out and flashing it, then expect it to get stolen. However, if you go out and drink to have fun and you get attacked and raped, it is different because its something normal that shouldn't have such consequences. People get raped also when they are sober so what does that say about the ' burden of risk'? Do we have to stop living alltogether. And do women need to lock themselves at home every Friday night and fully cover themselves when it is 30C.
I`ve never suggested to rape being a competition. We are on 20% full communication, so you are required to up your skills here. I stated that putting points of view across should not be a competition. Yes, men will come here to pick holes, and we are already well aware of why this mentality strikes. Men with a lot to hide do this when faced with truths of themselves. There is near total loss of intellect/it becomes an emotional battle for them. They are quick to mob mentality, and perhaps to rape under parallel circumstances.
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What, one badge???!!!
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(Original post by IAmNero)
Actually I would disagree. The burden of risk remains the fault of the victim. I would not walk down a dark alley at night because I don't want to get mugged. Similarly if they do the same then they are INCREASING the risk of rape.With being mugged its different because you are walking down an alley.
With rape, people blame it on the clothes or that the girl was drinking. This is different because it is something which is part of the person. Me walking into a bad neighbourhood at night isn't going to end up well and I accept that. However, if I were to do standard activities just like my mail counterparts and get raped then it was my fault and I should've been more careful.
If you walk into a bad neighbourhood with your iPhone out and flashing it, then expect it to get stolen. However, if you go out and drink to have fun and you get attacked and raped, it is different because its something normal that shouldn't have such consequences. People get raped also when they are sober so what does that say about the ' burden of risk'? Do we have to stop living alltogether. And do women need to lock themselves at home every Friday night and fully cover themselves when it is 30C.
It is never the girls fault if she`s raped, not under any circumstance of it happening to her. Iphones should have the tracking ap and been worn to the wrist, like a watch, with built in panic alarm Girls are best escorted by two men, not a single guy, and one on each side of her.
Actually I would disagree. The burden of risk remains the fault of the victim. I would not walk down a dark alley at night because I don't want to get mugged. Similarly if they do the same then they are INCREASING the risk of rape.With being mugged its different because you are walking down an alley.
With rape, people blame it on the clothes or that the girl was drinking. This is different because it is something which is part of the person. Me walking into a bad neighbourhood at night isn't going to end up well and I accept that. However, if I were to do standard activities just like my mail counterparts and get raped then it was my fault and I should've been more careful.
If you walk into a bad neighbourhood with your iPhone out and flashing it, then expect it to get stolen. However, if you go out and drink to have fun and you get attacked and raped, it is different because its something normal that shouldn't have such consequences. People get raped also when they are sober so what does that say about the ' burden of risk'? Do we have to stop living alltogether. And do women need to lock themselves at home every Friday night and fully cover themselves when it is 30C.
It is never the girls fault if she`s raped, not under any circumstance of it happening to her. Iphones should have the tracking ap and been worn to the wrist, like a watch, with built in panic alarm Girls are best escorted by two men, not a single guy, and one on each side of her.
Original post by DanB1991
^is it just me or is Kates David's post formatting all over the place? It either copy and pasting previous replies or not using quote brackets.... it's a tad annoying now.
Yes Kates does not know how to quote and to be honest just seems to be ranting, almost like having a conversation with himself.
Original post by DanB1991
^is it just me or is Kates David's post formatting all over the place? It either copy and pasting previous replies or not using quote brackets.... it's a tad annoying now.
Yes it is
Original post by Kates David
(Original post by IAmNero)
Actually I would disagree. The burden of risk remains the fault of the victim. I would not walk down a dark alley at night because I don't want to get mugged. Similarly if they do the same then they are INCREASING the risk of rape.With being mugged its different because you are walking down an alley.
With rape, people blame it on the clothes or that the girl was drinking. This is different because it is something which is part of the person. Me walking into a bad neighbourhood at night isn't going to end up well and I accept that. However, if I were to do standard activities just like my mail counterparts and get raped then it was my fault and I should've been more careful.
If you walk into a bad neighbourhood with your iPhone out and flashing it, then expect it to get stolen. However, if you go out and drink to have fun and you get attacked and raped, it is different because its something normal that shouldn't have such consequences. People get raped also when they are sober so what does that say about the ' burden of risk'? Do we have to stop living alltogether. And do women need to lock themselves at home every Friday night and fully cover themselves when it is 30C.
It is never the girls fault if she`s raped, not under any circumstance of it happening to her. Iphones should have the tracking ap and been worn to the wrist, like a watch, with built in panic alarm Girls are best escorted by two men, not a single guy, and one on each side of her.
Actually I would disagree. The burden of risk remains the fault of the victim. I would not walk down a dark alley at night because I don't want to get mugged. Similarly if they do the same then they are INCREASING the risk of rape.With being mugged its different because you are walking down an alley.
With rape, people blame it on the clothes or that the girl was drinking. This is different because it is something which is part of the person. Me walking into a bad neighbourhood at night isn't going to end up well and I accept that. However, if I were to do standard activities just like my mail counterparts and get raped then it was my fault and I should've been more careful.
If you walk into a bad neighbourhood with your iPhone out and flashing it, then expect it to get stolen. However, if you go out and drink to have fun and you get attacked and raped, it is different because its something normal that shouldn't have such consequences. People get raped also when they are sober so what does that say about the ' burden of risk'? Do we have to stop living alltogether. And do women need to lock themselves at home every Friday night and fully cover themselves when it is 30C.
It is never the girls fault if she`s raped, not under any circumstance of it happening to her. Iphones should have the tracking ap and been worn to the wrist, like a watch, with built in panic alarm Girls are best escorted by two men, not a single guy, and one on each side of her.
He never said it was the girls fault.
Men are more likely to be the victim of violent crime.
So being robbed you accept that the victim could of done things to minimise the risk but with rape you fail to see how someone can minimise the risk.
Men can be victims of rape as well which you seem to fail to actually understand.
He has not said it is ever a victims fault just that they can minimise the risk.
As has been established it is a small minority who blame it on clothes or drinking and society doesn't accept them saying those things.
Please if you reply to this use the reply button and quote it and just make it easier for the person you are communicating with to see your point
Original post by IAmNero
Actually I would disagree. The burden of risk remains the fault of the victim. I would not walk down a dark alley at night because I don't want to get mugged. Similarly if they do the same then they are INCREASING the risk of rape.
I don't think that logic is consistent with the majority of rape cases. What increases an individuals risk of being raped? How can a person know what will increase their risk of being raped? Most rapes happen in the most unconventional circumstances. If someone gets raped, whilst with a friend, in a children's park in broad daylight, what did they do to increase their risk of being raped? Should they have stayed home?
Rape culture? Not sure. But rapes always exist.
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