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    Sorry if these are stupid questions, but where do you look to get an idea of the 'better' courses a University offers? How do you find out which subject departments are better than others?
    For example, what are Birmingham and Manchester known for?
    Is the English department at Bristol better than the Economics?
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    As an international I think I could give some opinions.
    I would consider Warwick as a tier 3 uni, after Oxbridge and the London unis

    Cambridge
    Oxford
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    Imperial
    LSE
    UCL
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    Warwick
    Durham
    St. Andrews
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    Others

    That's how I would rank unis
    Interestingly unis like Exeter/Lancaster/Surrey etc have quite a high rank but less international reputation (at least I didn't know about them before coming to the UK, while the unis in above have been well-known in my country)
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    Here's how I would rank them. This is for general reputation and prestige, not for their prestige in specific subjects; that would change the rankings depending on what you're studying. All of the universities within the separate tiers are of equal prestige, I haven't put them in order.

    Cambridge
    Oxford
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    LSE
    UCL
    Imperial
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    St Andrews
    Durham
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    KCL
    Bristol
    Leeds
    Manchester
    Warwick
    Newcastle
    Nottingham
    Edinburgh
    Glasgow
    Exeter
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    Birmingham
    York
    Southampton
    Sheffield
    QMUL
    -------------------------
    Cardiff
    Liverpool
    QUB
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    (Original post by Abstract_Prism)
    Here's how I would rank them. This is for general reputation and prestige, not for their prestige in specific subjects; that would change the rankings depending on what you're studying. All of the universities within the separate tiers are of equal prestige, I haven't put them in order.

    Cambridge
    Oxford
    -------------------------
    LSE
    UCL
    Imperial
    -------------------------
    St Andrews
    Durham
    -------------------------
    KCL
    Bristol
    Leeds
    Manchester
    Warwick
    Newcastle
    Nottingham
    Edinburgh
    Glasgow
    Exeter
    -------------------------
    Birmingham
    York
    Southampton
    Sheffield
    QMUL
    -------------------------
    Cardiff
    Liverpool
    QUB
    I think you forgot Bath - they are high in most lists at the mo.

    I would suggest Bristol and Warwick should be in your third group, along with Bath.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    I think you forgot Bath - they are high in most lists at the mo.

    I would suggest Bristol and Warwick should be in your third group, along with Bath.
    Just asking questions out of curiousity, no fight intended.

    Is Bath>Manchester ? Is Bath>Nottingham?

    I get that Bath is a good uni but why would you put them above these unis for general prestige?
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    (Original post by Dynamic_Vicz)
    Is Bath>Manchester ? Is Bath>Nottingham?

    I get that Bath is a good uni but why would you put them above these unis for general prestige?
    I think Manchester is probably above Bath and Bath is probably above Nottingham.

    I know this, because I read it in my coffee grounds this morning. :lol:
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    I think Manchester is probably above Bath and Bath is probably above Nottingham.

    I know this, because I read it in my coffee grounds this morning. :lol:
    :lol: that is an reliable source alright
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    (Original post by Dynamic_Vicz)
    :lol: that is an reliable source alright
    It carries more weight than most threads on TSR on this topic do. :yep:
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    It carries more weight than most threads on TSR on this topic do. :yep:
    Hehe I can't disagree with that. I think more people should turn to coffee grounds to get their queries answered.
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    (Original post by Abstract_Prism)
    Here's how I would rank them. This is for general reputation and prestige, not for their prestige in specific subjects; that would change the rankings depending on what you're studying. All of the universities within the separate tiers are of equal prestige, I haven't put them in order.
    I was initially triggered before I reread and saw you hadn't put them in order. Imperial below UCL and LSE made me want to fall over lol.

    Also, somehow Manchester is ranked 6th in the country for reputation on the newest edition of QS world rankings. I wasn't expecting that tbh
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    I think Manchester is probably above Bath and Bath is probably above Nottingham.

    I know this, because I read it in my coffee grounds this morning. :lol:
    But if you had drunk Nescafe it would have told you that Sheffield Hallam was best.

    http://www.nestlecareers.co.uk/acade...chool-leavers/
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    (Original post by nulli tertius)
    But if you had drunk Nescafe it would have told you that Sheffield Hallam was best.

    http://www.nestlecareers.co.uk/acade...chool-leavers/
    Lulz.

    Actually, according to the BBC (seen last night on the local TV channel), London Met is a 'leading university', so that's the official view.
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    (Original post by tinyflame)
    So would prestige matter if you go from a uni that is like 50 in the league tables to a uni that is like in the top 10/20? Because that is exactly my situation right now, I am already studying at university of Hull, but I've got a chance to go to university of Nottingham, but I feel comfortable and at home at Hull and I feel reluctant to move.

    But I just feel that I can't waste this "chance" to go to the best university possible?
    If you feel comfortable and happy there I'd stay, personally. It's only worth considering a transfer if it's a post-1992 uni (unless you haven't started yet, in which case ****ing go for it).

    Russell Groups aren't the be all and end all, and it's not really worth going to one if you end up unhappy like I did - I'm glad I went to my uni but I personally found it socially isolating and competetive to the point where it was a bit silly.
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    Matters for what?

    Professionally what matters most are the skills you have learnt and how you have been able to apply them.

    I guess going to an elite university is good for bragging rights. Nobody cares that much though. *
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    True, but I think when/if I have children and they reach the age where they should think about aiming to go to a particular university, assuming things are pretty much as are now, I would be pushing much harder for them to aim for Oxbridge than I would for them to aim for Warwick. In fact, I would put everything into pushing for them to aim for Oxbridge.
    I know it's been a long time since you made the post, but I was wondering what in particular about Oxbridge makes you want to push your children into going there? What if they would prefer to study at Warwick? There are some courses for which Warwick is very good...
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    (Original post by biglad2k16)
    I know it's been a long time since you made the post, but I was wondering what in particular about Oxbridge makes you want to push your children into going there? What if they would prefer to study at Warwick? There are some courses for which Warwick is very good...
    All of the information I have about the way our society is structured, tied in with the international rep of Oxbridge, leads me to conclude that they would have significantly better life prospects (to lead the life they want to) with an Oxbridge education behind them. It's not just about degree quality - but about lots of less tangible things. I'm certainly not dissing Warwick, just reflecting on the way I see it. I wish it wasn't structured in quite such an elitist way.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Lulz.

    Actually, according to the BBC (seen last night on the local TV channel), London Met is a 'leading university', so that's the official view.
    Leading in graduate unemployment, that's for sure
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    All of the information I have about the way our society is structured, tied in with the international rep of Oxbridge, leads me to conclude that they would have significantly better life prospects (to lead the life they want to) with an Oxbridge education behind them. It's not just about degree quality - but about lots of less tangible things. I'm certainly not dissing Warwick, just reflecting on the way I see it. I wish it wasn't structured in quite such an elitist way.
    I guess that is true. Especially politics seems to be dominated by Oxbridge graduates, and some consulting, media, law jobs.
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    (Original post by Abstract_Prism)
    Here's how I would rank them. This is for general reputation and prestige, not for their prestige in specific subjects; that would change the rankings depending on what you're studying. All of the universities within the separate tiers are of equal prestige, I haven't put them in order.

    Cambridge
    Oxford
    -------------------------
    LSE
    UCL
    Imperial
    -------------------------
    St Andrews
    Durham
    -------------------------
    KCL
    Bristol
    Leeds
    Manchester
    Warwick
    Newcastle
    Nottingham
    Edinburgh
    Glasgow
    Exeter
    -------------------------
    Birmingham
    York
    Southampton
    Sheffield
    QMUL
    -------------------------
    Cardiff
    Liverpool
    QUB
    Wtf? Birmingham is easily in the same league as Leeds/Manchester/Newcastle/Glasgow (if not, higher).
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    (Original post by MaskOfKeaton)
    If you feel comfortable and happy there I'd stay, personally. It's only worth considering a transfer if it's a post-1992 uni (unless you haven't started yet, in which case ****ing go for it).

    Russell Groups aren't the be all and end all, and it's not really worth going to one if you end up unhappy like I did - I'm glad I went to my uni but I personally found it socially isolating and competetive to the point where it was a bit silly.
    Why did you find it socially isolating and competitive?

    I really like Hull, but it feels too small a place to stay at for 4 years?

    I've already accepted my offer and my accommodation for Nottingham, but I just feel scared about whether I will regret leaving a place I'm already comfortable at.

    It's sort of "too late" to change things now, but what do you think, is it still wise to maybe change my mind and cancel things at this point?

    I really feel that Nottingham is too good of an opportunity for me to waste?
 
 
 
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