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    (Original post by SophFlorence)
    Firstly, cry. Ok, just kidding- don't cry-haha!

    You could say that he's presented as the nastiest of the nastiest. He, like Slim, is shown as the extreme. Whist Slim is what Steinbeck may be portraying Slim as the 'ideal' ranch hand, Carlson is exactly what Steinbeck is suggesting people should NOT end up like.

    You could argue that his moral intentions are right, however, as he wants to put Candy's dog "out of his misery". It seems really terrible, but if you think about it based on the dog's description of "moth-eaten" and having "pale, blind old eyes", it actually seems like the right thing to do!

    Finally, you could describe him as lacking understanding, and being overall callous. This is reallllllllyyy shown at the end, in "now what the hell ya suppose is eatin' them to guys?". Wow, he lacks emotion! The fact that this is the last line of the whole novella shows how significant a character Carlson is, and that he, like Crooks, is put in the novella as a message. Steinbeck might be saying: this is what we don't want men to end up as, which is structurally, in this case, really fitting, as the end of the novella literally 'ends up' in such a way.
    Thanks there is nothing really much to say anything about him.
    Haha I nearly cried - I didn't don't worry
    Do you think Minor characters may come ?
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    (Original post by nisha.sri)
    Thanks there is nothing really much to say anything about him.
    Haha I nearly cried - I didn't don't worry
    Do you think Minor characters may come ?
    No, there's not much to say to be fair. WJEC would be really mean to ask us about him!!! Haha, I would shed a few tears, I must admit...

    Yes, I guess they could do, but it's quite unlikely.
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    what CA is this in?!
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    (Original post by brainzistheword)
    not exactly answering the question but what texts are on which paper and which comes first - is OMAM on Unit 1 or what? Thanks
    omam is the first paper and the poetry is lit paper 2
    I'm doing oman and aic then for paper 2 I'm doing conflict
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    (Original post by draculaura)
    I say first, spend around 5 minutes annotating and planning (definitely no more)
    then
    Small introduction (Edit: forgot to add times! For this I'd say 5 minutes.)
    Paragraph on Poem 1 (Around 15 minutes?)
    Paragraph on Poem 2 (15 minutes too)
    A Comparison/contrast on the two (Yup. 15 mins)
    Neat, to-the-point Conclusion (5 minutes)
    MAYBE a bit quicker, as you need 5 minutes to proof-read. Keep an eye on the clock and stick to this time frame and you should be OK. The key is not to blab (which is where I suffer haha!)
    haha, kk thanks
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    (Original post by SophFlorence)
    Firstly, cry. Ok, just kidding- don't cry-haha!

    You could say that he's presented as the nastiest of the nastiest. He, like Slim, is shown as the extreme. Whist Slim is what Steinbeck may be portraying Slim as the 'ideal' ranch hand, Carlson is exactly what Steinbeck is suggesting people should NOT end up like.

    You could argue that his moral intentions are right, however, as he wants to put Candy's dog "out of his misery". It seems really terrible, but if you think about it based on the dog's description of "moth-eaten" and having "pale, blind old eyes", it actually seems like the right thing to do!

    Finally, you could describe him as lacking understanding, and being overall callous. This is reallllllllyyy shown at the end, in "now what the hell ya suppose is eatin' them to guys?". Wow, he lacks emotion! The fact that this is the last line of the whole novella shows how significant a character Carlson is, and that he, like Crooks, is put in the novella as a message. Steinbeck might be saying: this is what we don't want men to end up as, which is structurally, in this case, really fitting, as the end of the novella literally 'ends up' in such a way.
    apparently his name represents Nazi-ism
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    (Original post by SophFlorence)
    No, there's not much to say to be fair. WJEC would be really mean to ask us about him!!! Haha, I would shed a few tears, I must admit...

    Yes, I guess they could do, but it's quite unlikely.
    If you have time, could you please explain to me the historical contexts and how it's related to the characters.
    Also my final questions, How is George important to the novel as a whole ? I don't know much on how he is important ?

    Love you forever Thanks x
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    (Original post by SAI6)
    apparently his name represents Nazi-ism
    Yeah, definitely. You could link that to his "Luger" shot gun, which is a German gun!
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    (Original post by penguinstudies)
    i really hope george doesnt come up, how would i answer that question?
    to be honest i think the text for this year will be the death of candys dog and the section b part will be the theme of loneliness so dont worry too much about george on his own as his character is very linked in with lennie

    however you could say that he is restricted by lennie and that he has to spend his time looking out for lennie instead of at the brothel where other migrant workers spend their "stake". you could also say that he needs lennie to keep that american dream alive as he is only thinking abut saving up his money whilst the rest of them spend it. you could even say he's got someone (lennie) bringing in the theme of loneliness into you rwork

    hope this helps
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    (Original post by nisha.sri)
    If you have time, could you please explain to me the historical contexts and how it's related to the characters.
    Also my final questions, How is George important to the novel as a whole ? I don't know much on how he is important ?

    Love you forever Thanks x
    My brain is quite literally frazzled now, sorry, haha! I will condense George's significance though:

    1) Shown as unique as he travels around with Lennie, unlike the rest of the ranchers, who're alone.
    2) He's a dreamer.
    3) You could also argue, though, that he's a dream-crusher.
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    (Original post by SAI6)
    haha, kk thanks
    your method is so different from the way i was taught thats really intersting
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    (Original post by muski)
    to be honest i think the text for this year will be the death of candys dog and the section b part will be the theme of loneliness so dont worry too much about george on his own as his character is very linked in with lennie

    however you could say that he is restricted by lennie and that he has to spend his time looking out for lennie instead of at the brothel where other migrant workers spend their "stake". you could also say that he needs lennie to keep that american dream alive as he is only thinking abut saving up his money whilst the rest of them spend it. you could even say he's got someone (lennie) bringing in the theme of loneliness into you rwork

    hope this helps
    thanks, loneliness would be such a great question
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    (Original post by SophFlorence)
    My brain is quite literally frazzled now, sorry, haha! I will condense George's significance though:

    1) Shown as unique as he travels around with Lennie, unlike the rest of the ranchers, who're alone.
    2) He's a dreamer.
    3) You could also argue, though, that he's a dream-crusher.
    Thanks , I understand you
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    (Original post by nisha.sri)
    Thanks , I understand you
    No problem, as I said, this's helped me,too. Good luck for tomorrow, I'm signing off now!
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    (Original post by SophFlorence)
    No problem, as I said, this's helped me,too. Good luck for tomorrow, I'm signing off now!
    Thanks same Signing off at 9
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    (Original post by penguinstudies)
    thanks, loneliness would be such a great question
    i know i just hope my guestimtion is accurate... good luck for tomorrow though!
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    (Original post by muski)
    your method is so different from the way i was taught thats really intersting
    What do u mean?
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    Hey guys quick question !!
    Is slim likely to come ? On a scale of 0-10
    0 being unlikely and 10 being bery likely
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    (Original post by muski)
    i know i just hope my guestimtion is accurate... good luck for tomorrow though!
    Do you have quotes for that for every character do you mind sharing with me ?
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    (Original post by muski)
    i know i just hope my guestimtion is accurate... good luck for tomorrow though!
    i hope so as well, and good luck too
 
 
 
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