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    (Original post by BaconandSauce)
    as you have been shown numerous times

    The assumption that A causes B simply because A correlates with B is often not accepted as a legitimate form of argument.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correl...mply_causation
    So you think its a pure coincidence that the crime was against a Muslim? Sigh
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    So you think its a pure coincidence that the crime was against a Muslim? Sigh
    yes given it has been shown this is the case (you haven't read the updates this is clear)

    You have been shown to be wrong.

    'Police do not believe the man who set a Muslim woman dressed in traditional religious attire on fire in New York was motivated by anti-Muslim bias, they said on Wednesday, after more women are revealed to have been targeted.

    The assumption that A causes B simply because A correlates with B is often not accepted as a legitimate form of argument.
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    Likewise, any mention of Islam in a news article, we see non-conclusionists go ape on Islam's ills.
    Seems to be Islam vs the rest of the world doesn't it?
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    (Original post by QE2)
    This man clearly had a backstory of some kind of trauma (perhaps his mother has cancer) therefore, according to your constant argument, it has nothing to do with religion and is understandable, given the context.
    And how do you know she was "innocent"? Innocent of what? Everything, or a particular accusation? Perhaps the man had lost his brother to an Islamist attack and viewed any outward expression of Islamism as clear provocation? We have no way of knowing, so your use of the word is not only meaningless but clearly intended to promote your particular apologist agenda/

    Also, interesting that you do not post links to articles about hate crimes perpetrated by Muslims on the grounds of religious belief. Why is that?

    And just for those who don't read the article, a woman felt something warm on her arm and found a charred patch the size of a 2p piece and saw a man holding a cigarette lighter. I have seen it described elsewhere (inc. the Guardian, quelle surprise!) as "Muslim woman set on fire".
    "Perhaps the man had lost his brother to an Islamist attack"

    Well now you know why groups like ISIS spring up and why they despise the West so much.
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    (Original post by HAnwar)
    Can you imagine if this was the other way around, the amount of hate the Muslim would have got.

    But instead people are quick to defend this man and are making up excuses to defend him.

    TSR back at it with the double standards.

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    Yep imagine if it was "Muslim refugee burns Jew in NYC".

    There's a reason the horrors of the history repeat themselves- most people are thick, gullible and easily led.
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    So you think its a pure coincidence that the crime was against a Muslim? Sigh
    As there were three other victims around the same time in that area, and none of them were Muslims, statistically, it is more likely to be an anti-non-Muslim hate crime!

    It's obviously not safe for non-Muslims to walk the streets now.
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    (Original post by Pinkberry_y)
    Seems to be Islam vs the rest of the world doesn't it?
    Well, that's kinda what it says in the Quran and sunnah.
    Thankfully, not many Muslims take them all that seriously any more - but we shouldn't pretend that there isn't a sizeable minority who do.
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    (Original post by QE2)
    Well, that's kinda what it says in the Quran and sunnah.
    Thankfully, not many Muslims take them all that seriously any more - but we shouldn't pretend that there isn't a sizeable minority who do.
    I believe the Quran says to accept others who believe in God whether they're Christian or Jew, but yes it does say Islam vs non believers of God
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    (Original post by Inzamam99)
    Well now you know why groups like ISIS spring up and why they despise the West so much.
    Yes I do. It is no secret (and never has been).
    It is a combination of geopolitics and Islamic ideology.
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    (Original post by QE2)
    Yes I do. It is no secret (and never has been).
    It is a combination of geopolitics and Islamic ideology.
    Do you try to justify the potential reasons for their actions as well?
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    (Original post by Pinkberry_y)
    I believe the Quran says to accept others who believe in God whether they're Christian or Jew, but yes it does say Islam vs non believers of God
    Questionable. There are certainly passages in the Quran and sunnah that do not speak too favourably of them.

    "O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk." - Quran 5:51

    "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree would not do that because it is the tree of the Jews." - Sahih Bukhari & Muslim.
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    (Original post by Inzamam99)
    Do you try to justify the potential reasons for their actions as well?
    That does not make sense as a question. Try again please.
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    (Original post by QE2)
    Questionable. There are certainly passages in the Quran and sunnah that do not speak too favourably of them.

    "O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk." - Quran 5:51

    "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree would not do that because it is the tree of the Jews." - Sahih Bukhari & Muslim.
    Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book are a portion that stand (for the right); they rehearse the Signs of Allah all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous. Of the good that they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for Allah knoweth well those that do right (3:113-115 AYA).Nearest among them in love to the Believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": Because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant (5:85 AYA/82 MP).
    O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His Apostle, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Apostle and the scripture which He sent to those before (him). Any who denieth Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Apostles, and the Day of Judgement, hath gone far, far astray (4:136 AYA).We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them (3:84 AYA).

    There seems to be contradictions in the Quran though, seeing as we can both find quotes for both sides of the argument
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    (Original post by Pinkberry_y)
    Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book are a portion that stand (for the right); they rehearse the Signs of Allah all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous. Of the good that they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for Allah knoweth well those that do right (3:113-115 AYA).Nearest among them in love to the Believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": Because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant (5:85 AYA/82 MP).
    O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His Apostle, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Apostle and the scripture which He sent to those before (him). Any who denieth Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Apostles, and the Day of Judgement, hath gone far, far astray (4:136 AYA).We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them (3:84 AYA).

    There seems to be contradictions in the Quran though, seeing as we can both find quotes for both sides of the argument
    Indeed! That is why I said that it was "questionable".
    The principle of abrogation may need to be used to see if any later verses overrule earlier ones. No time now, will try later.
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    (Original post by Pinkberry_y)
    I believe the Quran says to accept others who believe in God whether they're Christian or Jew, but yes it does say Islam vs non believers of God
    So we atheists (which will soon be most people in Europe) had better be careful, eh?
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    So we atheists (which will soon be most people in Europe) had better be careful, eh?
    Who knows? I certainly don't
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    So you think its a pure coincidence that the crime was against a Muslim? Sigh
    This is where ignoring people gets you: the hole you dug for yourself gets ever deeper.

    QE2 posted this yesterday:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...victims-police

    It shows that any crime committed was not an anti-Moslem attack at all, as several non-Moslems were attacked too, though now it looks more like a deliberate act than an accident.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    This is where ignoring people gets you: the hole you dug for yourself gets ever deeper.

    QE2 posted this yesterday:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...victims-police

    It shows that any crime committed was not an anti-Moslem attack at all, as several non-Moslems were attacked too, though now it looks more like a deliberate act than an accident.
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    well that's what I got when I clicked the link :iiam:
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    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...victims-police

    as I said you are demonstrably wrong
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    Lmao OP got destroyed at the end (as usual)
 
 
 
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