Pakistan vs India

But sometimes the government can misinform their population or divert attention elsewhere.

For example: a terrorist attack happens in Pakistan, a few news outlets will definitely claim it was orchestrated by India. A terrorist attack happens in India, a few news outlets will definitely claim it was orchestrated by Pakistan.

Now both countries can easily blame the other country to avoid blame on themselves and even show themselves being tough with strong statements to maintain support for themselves. (If you admit to simply not controlling terrorists in your own country, you look weak as a leader, blaming it on someone else and you can point fingers and rally your people behind you).

When you have patriotic people, it's easy to get them emotional and manipulate them. Avoiding any attention on your shortcomings or incompetence in your leadership, and diverting attention away from other internal issues.

Both India and Pakistan have plenty of internal issues to address, but when the focus turns on each other at times like this, everybody forgets about it.

True I dont really like patriotism much at all, but when is there a terrorist attack in pakistan in which there are hundreds of deaths, never, google 'terroist attacks in pakistan' but in india terrorist attacks that lead to a lot of deaths, a lot.

I don't know why I try though, talk to any Pakistani or Indian about their country and it's like talking to a brick wall, both think they're the best most amazing god damn country in the world with nothing wrong with them Patriotism is a cancer

If I was Indian or not Pakistani you wouldn't be saying this. I even said I'd like to see better relations to prove different religions can live peacefully.

I don't know why I try though, talk to any Pakistani or Indian about their country and it's like talking to a brick wall, both think they're the best most amazing god damn country in the world with nothing wrong with them Patriotism is a cancer

Yeah but you only choose to criticise India's treatment of religious minorities when in Pakistan it's 50 times worse. The police regularly turn a blind eye to murders and attacks on religious minorities. How do you feel about this? *

I was mainly referring to certain individuals in this thread...

And of course I hate it, I'm a huge critic of certain laws in Pakistan and firmly believe religion should have no influence in government and the laws set. But I'm hardly going to discuss it with people who have no desire to have a constructive conversation about it.

Which group is to blame though? Muslims were still a minority in the Mughal Empire, if anything Hindus being the majority are to blame to allow that to happen going by your logic. The Mughals weren't democratically elected.

Or are you saying the Mughals and those in position of power are to blame? In which case I don't disagree with you.

...and yet pakistan founded on principle of islamic governance of the nation

the mugals are the reason you are a muslim today dude ( assuming youre pakistani)

So that's it? I should just accept it? Even if I don't agree with certain laws?



Not they're not. Islam came to the region before them.

How is this even relevant to what I posted? It's not like the Mughals were good Muslims who I should be looking up to.

You realise that if you dont accept this, you dont accept the creation of Pakistan?

Yes Islam came way before that, mostly after the second battle of Tarain in 1191 when that ****** Jaichand betrayed Prithviraj Chauhan and what resulted was mass looting, mass force conversions, mass rapes (millions also killed in a genocide)of which many descendants of the rapists were born and now proudly thump their chests claiming Turkic, arabic ancestry
(2-3% of Pakistanis pop eg Qureshi, Sayed etc) and other coward Jatts, Memons,Rajpoots and kashmiri pandits etc were force converted later on .
And now these people promote the cultures of the people who abused,raped ,tortured,oppressed them and want to implement their Gazwa E Hind

It makes no sense in my head

A few centuries before that Under the Gupta (Samudragupta ,Chandragupta etc) and Maurya Empires(esp Chandragupt Vikramaditya) which extended from myanmar to parts of Iran, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan( eg Samarkhand), 40-50% of Afghanistan was Buddhist, 20-30% Hindu and others were pagans and sun worshipers. All of pakistan was Hindu or Buddhist/Jains

Indus valley civilization (said to have started around 3300 BC+) had their main center of civilization in modern day Pakistan and people worshiped pashupati Shiva etc

Yet these people deny their ancestry



Even Punjabi was derived from Sanskrit

You realise that if you dont accept this, you dont accept the creation of Pakistan?

Yes Islam came way before that, mostly after the second battle of Tarain in 1191 when that ****** Jaichand betrayed Prithviraj Chauhan and what resulted was mass looting, mass force conversions, mass rapes (millions also killed in a genocide)of which many descendants of the rapists were born and now proudly thump their chests claiming Turkic, arabic ancestry
(2-3% of Pakistanis pop eg Qureshi, Sayed etc) and other coward Jatts, Memons,Rajpoots and kashmiri pandits etc were force converted later on .
And now these people promote the cultures of the people who abused,raped ,tortured,oppressed them and want to implement their Gazwa E Hind

It makes no sense in my head

A few centuries before that Under the Gupta (Samudragupta ,Chandragupta etc) and Maurya Empires(esp Chandragupt Vikramaditya) which extended from myanmar to parts of Iran, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan( eg Samarkhand), 40-50% of Afghanistan was Buddhist, 20-30% Hindu and others were pagans and sun worshipers. All of pakistan was Hindu or Buddhist/Jains

Indus valley civilization (said to have started around 3300 BC+) had their main center of civilization in modern day Pakistan and people worshiped pashupati Shiva etc

Yet these people deny their ancestry



Even Punjabi was derived from Sanskrit

I like the absurd claims you make mainly because u have no source and this is extremist Hindu propaganda P.s are you from/support shiv sena?

Tbh, the creation of it was necessary because by 1947 India was on the verge of civil war. What's done is done, now we just need to try and move forward.

(Btw, because I'm Pakistani/Muslim, doesn't mean you have to argue against every post I make. Try and put your bigoted hatred to one side for a second)

I don't deny my ancestry, I don't know many who do deny it. Did you get this from Pakistanis you know? Or just online/from other people?

It's also possible some Muslims converted out of choice? Happens all the time. Muslims end up converting to different religions too.

Partition was in 1947. Before 1947 there was only one country called India and no Pakistan. 1947 was when the first war took place and there were a further two more wars. The last war in 1999 revolved around a disputed territory called Kashmir. It's very complicated and impossible to explain in a post.