Edexcel Chemistry A2 Unit 5 ~ Wednesday 19th June 2013 (Now Closed) Watch

Poll: How pumped up are you for this exam?-(warning)-(bad jokes arene this poll!)
"Titanium-I'm not going to corrode (even at high temperatures)" (A*) (22)
16.67%
"Benzene's my middle name, give me the paper in a week and I'll ace it!" (A) (27)
20.45%
"Yeah, I'm fairly electrophillic (positively charged) about the exam" (B) (27)
20.45%
"I'm in the middle of the salt bridge, but I will pass-eventually" (C) (21)
15.91%
"I'm feeling rather electroNegative about this exam" (D) (18)
13.64%
"Benzene, what's that?" (E) (6)
4.55%
"Chemistry, what's that?" (F) (11)
8.33%
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(Original post by mrhedgehog)
Im pretty sure that when butylamine and sulfuric acid react the same is (ch3ch2ch2ch2nh3)2 ^2+ So4^2-
I put that, maybe they'll accept both...
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(Original post by Qwob)
I said that TiO2 was metallic, since it has a boiling point of 1830 degrees and forms on the outer layer of titanium metal when exposed to oxygen in the atmosphere.

Then I put TiCl4 is ionic, and can dissolve in solution.
TiCl4 is covalent, not ionic. And TiO2 is ionic, not metallic.
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(Original post by Bello08)
TiCl4 is covalent, not ionic. And TiO2 is ionic, not metallic.
Just researched it and you're right. Really annoyed at that, at least 3 marks dropped on that question now. They have never mentioned bonding between transition metals and other atoms before unless its complex ion formation. Damn you Edexcel.
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i said regarding the fuel cell one that it is more efficient. is that right for 1 mark?
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i just need 75 ums to get an A. i know i did **** cos of my panic attack (never had one before) the paper wasnt even hard.. do you reckon if i dropped 34 marks roughly i can still get that?
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What did you guys put for why TiCl4 + Na is evidence for a redox reaction or something?
Grade boundary predictions anyone?
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what did you guys put as use for the azo compund? i put coloured dye for clothing
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What did you guys put for why TiCl4 + Na is evidence for a redox reaction or something?
Grade boundary predictions anyone?
i put Na goes from 0 and +1 so it's oxidised, titanium goes from +4 to whatever it ended up as (can't remember)

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what did you guys put as use for the azo compund? i put coloured dye for clothing
i put that too
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what did you guys put as use for the azo compund? i put coloured dye for clothing
Yeah I put a dye for inks, but I reckon they just wanted the word 'dye' really
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I put that, maybe they'll accept both...
Yeah I dont see why not because sulfuric acid can lose 2 H+ ions.
What about the one with butylamine and ethanoic acid. I put ch3ch2ch2nh3+ ch3coo-
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and what did you guys write about why the complex ion is coloured? i wroter the water ligands split the d subshell into two different energy levels. d-d transition occurs when electrons in lower energy level absorb light of certain frewuencies and move to a higher energy level and that the frequency of light absorbed compliments the colour of the complex. is that enough for 3 marks or is there anything specific they wanted.. afterall its edexcel?
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(Original post by mrhedgehog)
Im pretty sure that when butylamine and sulfuric acid react the same is (ch3ch2ch2ch2nh3)2 ^2+ So4^2-
It cant be that, because the nitrogen only has 1 lone pair of electrons, so can only accept one proton
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Grade boundary predictions anyone?
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It cant be that, because the nitrogen only has 1 lone pair of electrons, so can only accept one proton
Yes, but if you look at the formula more closely you'd notice that there are two butylamine molecules involved in the salt.
(it's like (NH4)^2SO4))
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for the electrode one i wrote the wrong equation as in picked only one that produced OH- and based on E cell value on that so would there be error carried forward? also how many marks was it to calculate the e cell value?
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It cant be that, because the nitrogen only has 1 lone pair of electrons, so can only accept one proton
Yeah my molecule has the nitrogen with one H+ only but there are 2 butylamines
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Just researched it and you're right. Really annoyed at that, at least 3 marks dropped on that question now. They have never mentioned bonding between transition metals and other atoms before unless its complex ion formation. Damn you Edexcel.
Well I thought it was pretty obvious that TiCl4 was covalent. Firstly, it said it was a liquid at room temp, which is the big give away. Secondly, you should know that some metal chlorides like AlCl3 are actually covalent, therefore it is reasonable to assume that TICl4 will also be. Remember that this specification requires you to carry over knowledge from all previous units, so they can test you on anything from units 1, 2 or 4 in unit 5.
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For that question, was it asking why there is a difference in boiling point? Or did it want a detailed explanation on the bonding in the molecule itself?
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Just to confirm did people find that paper hard/medium/easy? I think the grade boundaries on this one will be quite high
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GB will be 68 for an A. A bit like june 12 boundaries.
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