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    (Original post by biglad2k16)
    I am saying that from the vast numbers of radical Islamic terror attacks in the West, it's clear that the Muslim community has a larger problem with terror on the whole than other communities. For example, a few days before the Orlando shooting, the local mosque which the shooter attended held an event where a speaker said that 'gays must die'.

    http://fusion.net/story/313063/orlan...k-muslim-lgbt/

    The fact that the government needs to organise schemes like Prevent to stop radicalisation also shows that mosques aren't doing enough in their own to discourage intolerance and radicalisation
    I've never in my life seen or heard radicalisation or intolerance at any mosque I've been to. Nor in my community.

    In which case I can't really do anything to stop it can I, if I never see it happen.

    (Terrorist in the west tend be radicalised by smaller groups or online, the ones radicalising them arent found in the wider community that often, which makes it hard for the average Muslim to pinpoint and stop them, as they never comes across them)
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    (Original post by saeed9764)
    Because i am just so cool 😎 I wont. Ive done what i could and im gonna burn the rest. I dont know who this Imam is and im not going to the event lol. Just helping out because im part of the isoc.
    do you uob?
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    (Original post by saeed9764)
    Because i am just so cool 😎


    I wont. Ive done what i could and im gonna burn the rest. I dont know who this Imam is and im not going to the event lol. Just helping out because im part of the isoc.
    Even in the hot summers?
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    (Original post by biglad2k16)
    I am saying that from the vast numbers of radical Islamic terror attacks in the West, it's clear that the Muslim community has a larger problem with terror on the whole than other communities. For example, a few days before the Orlando shooting, the local mosque which the shooter attended held an event where a speaker said that 'gays must die'.

    http://fusion.net/story/313063/orlan...k-muslim-lgbt/

    The fact that the government needs to organise schemes like Prevent to stop radicalisation also shows that mosques aren't doing enough in their own to discourage intolerance and radicalisation
    I don't want to discuss this much here but, further to Lord Samosa's post below, I would mention that you seem to be ascribing the blame wholly on the Muslim community. I feel that this is a naive approach to take as foreign policy has a significant role to play in the motives behind such acts of terror.

    I will never seek to justify acts of terror or the loss of innocent lives, however I believe it counterproductive to ignore the root of the problem and only blame the obviously guilty party.
    (Original post by Lord Samosa)
    I've never in my life seen or heard radicalisation or intolerance at any mosque I've been to. Nor in my community.

    In which case I can't really do anything to stop it can I, if I never see it happen.

    (Terrorist in the west tend be radicalised by smaller groups or online, the ones radicalising them arent found in the wider community that often, which makes it hard for the average Muslim to pinpoint and stop them, as they never comes across them)
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    (Original post by BasharAssad)
    do you uob?
    Yes i uob all the time.
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    Even in the hot summers?
    I used to be a fan of summer. Now im an air conditioner
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    (Original post by Zamestaneh)
    Some of these points you should be aware of for yourself, not just to not offend them:
    - If they aren't vegetarian, they are generally prohibited from halal meat, so if you want to offer food to mandems, be weary of that.
    - They get vexed if you say Nanak (their first Guru) was a Muslim; only say it if you want some extra troll points.
    - Avoid saying that the Granth (their book) is just a book and not a 'living' Guru; more troll points if you emphasise why it's just a book.
    - If you ever get taken to a Gurdwara on one of the Sikh soc events, politely decline to bow to the Granth at the front; usually all people make sujood when they go in the main hall, but they should excuse you as a Muslim.
    - If they offer you "prashad" (basically halwa), do not throw any of it away or throw it in the bin or spit it out - it would be considered offensive. It's sometimes considered rude to reject it, unless you have a genuine reason, or perhaps you could explain to someone with you at the event why you cant have it. Worth noting that as it's being made, they recite words from the Granth, so it is up to your judgement whether the food is haram or not as it is not meat being slaughtered in a name other than Allah.
    - If you are in a Gurdwara, keep your head covered and your feet not pointed towards the front - they get annoyed with that.
    Na i was only gonna go to make friends there. I wasnt planning on going to the Temples.
    And regarding the last point. Does that mean the only way out is if i walk backwards?
    Lol and thanks bro.
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    (Original post by FantasticMsFox)
    One minute?! 😱 I don't think that's possible. 2 minutes at the very least. My dad takes an average of 3 minutes.




    I think that's a reasonable time. I'd like to cut down to 6 minutes max. I take a bit more time on my face, hair and ears. Sometimes I think it's waswasa so that more water than necessary is used (or something like that) but then I don't want to miss any areas.

    I think it's important that we think about what we're doing during wudhu and not just do it. The Hadith about wudhu washing away sins (or something similar) comes to mind.
    I don't even understand how you can take that long :confused:
    Even if I take my time it comes down to one minute.

    (Original post by saeed9764)
    Because i am just so cool 😎


    I wont. Ive done what i could and im gonna burn the rest. I dont know who this Imam is and im not going to the event lol. Just helping out because im part of the isoc.
    Aren't you a dedicated member :rolleyes:

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    (Original post by TheFreeSlave)
    Asalamualaikum, logged into TSR after ages, last post in the the ISOC was in January. Hope everyone is well. SubhanAllah a lot happened for me in the last few months. One thing I have learned is that everything that is perceived as a test is actually a blessing, every perceived test is an opportunity to get closer to Allah, therefore the more you use this opportunity to increase your imaan the easier it will be for you to accept that everything that happens is for the best. One other thing is that duas are always accepted. I might share a few examples later but they are a bit personal but no matter what you ask for never doubt it wont be accepted or think 'it's just not going to be possible'. A dua I have been making for the last four years pretty much everyday was answered, if it was answered earlier, I would actually have been in a difficult situation so only Allah knows the best time for you to be in the situation that you find yourself in. Lastly, never despair, a Muslim should never despair. Actually the last thing is smile, always keep smiling.
    Wasalam
    SubhanAllah, completely agree.
    I have been through something similar the past few weeks.
    I used to make the same dua after every salah, and ngl there was a point where I felt what is the point in carrying on asking when my dua isn't even being accepted, but for some reason, I kept making the same dua (even asked some members on here to make dua). Alhamdulilah EVENTUALLY it was accepted, but I'm glad it took a while now because I've learnt a lot from those tough days.

    Also, this AMAZING quote kept me going-

    "Had Allah lifted the veil for His slave and shown him how He handles his affairs for him, and how Allah is more keen for the benefit of the slave than his own self, his heart would have melted out of the love for Allah and would have been torn to pieces out of thankfulness to Allah. Therefore if the pains of this world tire you, do not grieve. For it may be that Allah wishes to hear your voice by way of Du’a. So pour out your desires in prostration and forget about it and know, that verily Allah does not forget."

    Ibn Qayyim Al-Jawziyya Rahimahullah

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    (Original post by saeed9764)
    Na i was only gonna go to make friends there. I wasnt planning on going to the Temples.
    And regarding the last point. Does that mean the only way out is if i walk backwards?
    Lol and thanks bro.
    What I meant is if you are sitting down, don't point your toes or the soles of your feet to the front. When leaving, it don't matter; Sikhs sometimes walk out backwards but it don't matter because you aren't Sikh and it isn't considered disrespectful on the most part, so many Sikhs don't do that either.

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    (Original post by saeed9764)
    Yes i uob all the time.


    I used to be a fan of summer. Now im an air conditioner
    What about winters? Are you not going to freeze? :curious:
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    (Original post by saeed9764)


    I used to be a fan of summer. Now im an air conditioner
    You transformed into an air conditioner?
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    Part of the tafsir for this verse:

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    (Original post by HAnwar)
    Wasalam
    SubhanAllah, completely agree.
    I have been through something similar the past few weeks.
    I used to make the same dua after every salah, and ngl there was a point where I felt what is the point in carrying on asking when my dua isn't even being accepted, but for some reason, I kept making the same dua (even asked some members on here to make dua). Alhamdulilah EVENTUALLY it was accepted, but I'm glad it took a while now because I've learnt a lot from those tough days.

    Also, this AMAZING quote kept me going-

    "Had Allah lifted the veil for His slave and shown him how He handles his affairs for him, and how Allah is more keen for the benefit of the slave than his own self, his heart would have melted out of the love for Allah and would have been torn to pieces out of thankfulness to Allah. Therefore if the pains of this world tire you, do not grieve. For it may be that Allah wishes to hear your voice by way of Du’a. So pour out your desires in prostration and forget about it and know, that verily Allah does not forget."

    Ibn Qayyim Al-Jawziyya Rahimahullah

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    Part of the tafsir for this verse:

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    SubhaanAllah.
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    (Original post by biglad2k16)
    This may be because most of these terror attacks were carried out by people who happen to be Christians but carried out the attack in the name of another ideology like far-right extremism or Eco-terrorism, whereas most Muslim terrorists do actually carry out terror attacks in the name of Islam. And although non-Muslims may carry out more attacks than Muslims. Islamic terror attacks cause far more casualties and are of a larger scale, as seen by 9/11, the Paris attacks, the Orlando shooting etc...

    The vast majority of people would agree that Islamic terrorism is a far bigger danger to the Western world than Christian extremism. Very few people have been killed in recent times by radical Christian terror groups, but many people are killed every month by radical Islamic terror groups.

    Finally, there is nothing wrong with talking about terrorism. I would imagine that, since there have been so many high-profile terror attacks in the Western world recently, most of which were caused by Islamic terrorists, people would be questioning Islam and whether it is a peaceful or violent religion. It's perfectly fine to pick faults with Islam or any other ideology, especially at a time when we are struggling to cope with Islamic terrorism. I would hope that the Islamic community is doing all it can to stop radicalisation and terrorism but at the moment we can clearly tell that this hasn't been the case.
    Islam has no faults. People who committ violence against innocents are going against Islam. Please read the Quran and educate yourself.
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    (Original post by IdeasForLife)


    Part of the tafsir for this verse:
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    SubhanAllah. Jzk.

    (Original post by guided1)
    Islam has no faults. People who committ violence against innocents are going against Islam. Please read the Quran and educate yourself.
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    (Original post by FantasticMsFox)
    Walaikum as-salaam.

    JazakAllah Khair for your post. I've been feeling a bit down on and off over the past week so I think I needed that last sentence about smiling. Whenever I feel down, I open this app on my phone called Good News Network. They have a couple of articles everyday and they can cheer me up a bit. Here's one of my favourites: Man Becomes Hero To Cats In War-Torn Syria: http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/man-b...ar-torn-syria/

    It might seem silly but I like Dory's motto "Just keep swimming". I just need to remember it often.

    Sometimes I wonder if I have the mental age of a 10-year-old...
    Wa'iyyaki. If you feel down just remember that Allah chose you out of Billions of people to be Muslim but it's good to know you have things that cheer you up during those times.
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    where is the usual Hezbollah/Iran/Russia/dajjal was responsible in your post?
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    (Original post by h333)
    Wa'alaikum Assalaam
    Amazing, wise words, jazakAllah khair for sharing. Made me feel so good for some reason, honestly SubhanAllah.
    Glad you found it useful. May Allah bless you.
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    Please do dua for my exam tomorrow.
 
 
 
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