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    (Original post by Rogercbinboy)
    I'm 99% certain he was being sarcastic, which incidentally is a difference between Brits and Americans. If you move here it might take some time to get used to the humour, lots more irony/sarcasm and casual insults to friends.

    But the news/tv here is good, BBC can sometimes be biased - it's pro government which is sometimes quite noticeable - but we have other papers/channels like The Guardian and Channel 4 which give other views (The Daily Mail is ****ing terrible though, I don't even consider that a paper; we get the good with the bad).
    I did a research project based on the differences between American news and British news actually and I've got to say that American news is a lot more biased in general Fox/CNN are awful.

    Personally I go for a mix of BBC, The Guardian and Al Jazeera (obviously a bit of a lefty).

    We also have the best underground music in the world in my opinion (dubstep, drum and bass, garage etc), only Germany comes close. You may feel differently though.
    Ick, I feel like an idiot then.
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    (Original post by Eldedu)
    1.) I've already provided it. If you don't want to read the threads you're posting in that's fine but don't ask me to find the facts for you.
    2.) Is another way of saying you don't have a counterargument.
    3.) Again, no counterargument. If want to party and have fun, I suggest trying somewhere that's not an internet forum.
    4.) I'm not from "this country" so I don't see why I should give a ****, and in any case Blair was better than Bush.
    5.) Again, I'm not British, so your argument is (surprisingly) irrelevant.
    6.) Again, not from "this country".
    7.) See 6
    8 -10.) Well at least you don't even try to argue with these
    11.) Is your opinion. I happen to think socialism is the closest thing we have to a viable political theory that benefits everyone, so to me it matters, and I'm the one who wrote the list. You seem to use the word boring when you can't manage to argue but want to disagree out of sheer bloody-mindedness.

    :rolleyes:
    Yep alright if you are not from GB (and I am, though never really asked to be) but still.

    Why would that smarmy ass-licking ponce Blair be any better than his ex-boyfriend Bush?

    As for the percentage of religious fanatics, you do reliase that the "bible belt" does not make up a large percentage of the population, much?

    Points 2, 3 and 4 are so boring. I am sick of hearing about them. It is all that political "intellectuals" like to debate about to show how much they know everything. And no, I never liked Bush and am not American. But I often wish I was.
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    (Original post by Final Fantasy)
    This is the problem. Most Americans I have met (and before you say, I have met quite a lot, both offline and online and have also checked with others) don't have a ****ing clue about the rest of the world. Their knowledge of geography is absolutely ****, knowing nothing about the rest of the world, which makes some of them come across as retarded, ignorant and naive. I'm beginning to wonder whether they're even taught any of this in school.

    Oh, and Fox News is just scary.
    Yes we are taught about different countries all over the world in school, but never about their thoughts on our country. That's why I chose to post this thread, to get more opinions and have a better view of what others think. Just because many of the Americans you have met don't have much knowledge on the topic of other countries doesn't mean we're naive, bad people, or ignorant. My main point of this thread is because I was tired of people assuming that all American's are the same and that it is okay to bash someone for the fact that they are one. I know our country isn't perfect and yeah there are alot of stupid people here but there are so everywhere. Also, like I said in another post, if I heard/saw someone from my country bashing another for living in a different country I would tell them to shut up too. Let me also say something to hopefully make things a bit clearer: I didn't start this post because I want everyone to like Americans I was posting it because I think it's wrong for people to start arguments over such a thing. (Sorry, I really don't mean to sound rude and ramble on. I'm not stating that what I think should rule either.)
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    (Original post by Cassandra_Z)
    Yes we are taught about different countries all over the world in school, but never about their thoughts on our country. That's why I chose to post this thread, to get more opinions and have a better view of what others think. Just because many of the Americans you have met don't have much knowledge on the topic of other countries doesn't mean we're naive, bad people, or ignorant. My main point of this thread is because I was tired of people assuming that all American's are the same and that it is okay to bash someone for the fact that they are one. I know our country is perfect and yeah there are alot of stupid people her but there are so everywhere. Also, like I said in another post, if I heard/saw someone from my country bashing another for living in a different country I would tell them to shut up too. Let me also say something to hopefully make things a bit clearer: I didn't start this post because I want everyone to like Americans I was posting it because I think it's wrong for people to start arguments over such a thing. (Sorry, I really don't mean to sound rude and ramble on. I'm not stating that what I think should rule either.)
    Found that to be a funny typo in the context.
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    (Original post by Rogercbinboy)
    Found that to be a funny typo in the context.
    :eek: Ugh, I should have read it over before posting. I apologize! :/
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    (Original post by Eldedu)
    You're entitled to like your country. I'm entitled not to. Here's why (a few choice reasons, there are many more)

    1.) You are home to more extreme religious fanatics / right-wing nutjobs per capita than any other country since Nazi Germany (with the possible exception of Iran).
    2.) For the past 100 years you have flouted the sovereignty of countless other nations to further your own aims, values and religion.
    3.) Recently, you set off a war which has cost hundreds of thousands of lives, and we still don't know why you did it.
    4.) You re-elected Bush
    5.) The Americans we get to see abroad tend to be loud, arrogant and somewhat brutish.
    6.) You're sore losers.
    7.) Some of you actually listen to Glenn Beck.
    8.) Others amongst you considered voting for the bimbo-***-lunatic that is Sarah Palin.
    9.) You are a country built on immigration, and yet you are now doing your best to persecute immigrants.
    oh and
    10.) Despite the guaranteed right to freedom of speech, the liberty which is mentioned so often as sacred in your consitution, and so many other big statements, when a normal, everyday man tries to expose your inner dealings to the public, your leaders accuse him of terrorism and start an international manhunt for him.
    11.) Socialism is practically a swearword in your country.

    Of course no one is perfect, so here's a few reasons I do like your country.

    1.) You are home to some of the most intelligent, witty and kind people in the world.
    2.) You are home to the worlds finest universities.
    3.) You elected Obama
    4.) Family Guy
    5.) Great TV in general actually
    6.) American football (not quite as good as rugby but still awesome)
    7.) You have an astounding amount of places that have amazing natural beauty.
    8.) NYC

    FAMILY GUY ! OH YEAH


    ... Sorry got a bit over-excited :/
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    (Original post by robocop1andahalf)
    As for the percentage of religious fanatics, you do reliase that the "bible belt" does not make up a large percentage of the population, much?
    Would any American want to swap the bible belt crazies for the crazies Europe has?




    Don't ****ing think so.
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    All the Americans I have met have been lovely, and I'd definitely like to visit. But I couldn't live there, its too right wing and the fervent patriotism strikes me as being a bit too...blind, if you like.
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    I would never hate someone on the basis of being American or any other nationality for that matter. I do not hate America but there are some things I dislike about the politics and culture, mostly the blind patriotism and general ignorance about the rest of the world which a lot of Americans are guilty of. The sense of superiority of a lot of Americans who bleat on about "The land of the free" and the "best nation in the world" annoys me a bit too...

    Oh and it's not a big deal but I've known a lot of Americans and they're all so bloody loud! You can hear them miles off! Why is this??
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    (Original post by purplesky)

    Oh and it's not a big deal but I've known a lot of Americans and they're all so bloody loud! You can hear them miles off! Why is this??
    Mmm I believe our "freedom of speech" contributes to that, but that is just my opinion so please don't think all American's think that way. Where I live there aren't alot of loud people though, more conservative on that note and very friendly.
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    (Original post by Cassandra_Z)
    Yes we are taught about different countries all over the world in school, but never about their thoughts on our country. That's why I chose to post this thread, to get more opinions and have a better view of what others think. Just because many of the Americans you have met don't have much knowledge on the topic of other countries doesn't mean we're naive, bad people, or ignorant. My main point of this thread is because I was tired of people assuming that all American's are the same and that it is okay to bash someone for the fact that they are one. I know our country isn't perfect and yeah there are alot of stupid people here but there are so everywhere. Also, like I said in another post, if I heard/saw someone from my country bashing another for living in a different country I would tell them to shut up too. Let me also say something to hopefully make things a bit clearer: I didn't start this post because I want everyone to like Americans I was posting it because I think it's wrong for people to start arguments over such a thing. (Sorry, I really don't mean to sound rude and ramble on. I'm not stating that what I think should rule either.)
    Lol, I am NOT talking about being taught what others think of your country (seriously who teaches this?), I'm talking about cultures in other countries, geography (where countries are on a world map, continents, regions etc. it seems their knowledge is only limited to the USA), world affairs etc.

    And I never said many of the Americans I have met (who don't know **** all about anything beyond their own country) are all ignorant and naive. I said that it makes some (I even bolded this) of them come across as naive and ignorant, and this is mainly because they talk as if they know it all when they know **** all.

    Aside from that, I know some very good (and one of them is very smart) people who I consider good friends, from America.
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    (Original post by robocop1andahalf)
    Yep alright if you are not from GB (and I am, though never really asked to be) but still.

    Why would that smarmy ass-licking ponce Blair be any better than his ex-boyfriend Bush?

    As for the percentage of religious fanatics, you do reliase that the "bible belt" does not make up a large percentage of the population, much?

    Points 2, 3 and 4 are so boring. I am sick of hearing about them. It is all that political "intellectuals" like to debate about to show how much they know everything. And no, I never liked Bush and am not American. But I often wish I was.
    Why is he better? Because he didn't **** up his country to the same extent, nor did he **** up the world quite as badly. He was the evil Robin to Bush's evil Batman.

    Again, you haven't read the thread properly. I also mentioned the Nation of Islam, Westboro Baptist Church and I think one or two others. Add these all together and you get a large percentage of the population than anywhere else in the civilized world.

    Using boring instead of managing actual debate again. They're important to me not because I can use them to showcase my knowledge (which I have no trouble in admitting is limited) but because I feel that they are concerned with solving most of the problems we face.
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    (Original post by Final Fantasy)
    Lol, I am NOT talking about being taught what others think of your country (seriously who teaches this?), I'm talking about cultures in other countries, geography (where countries are on a world map, continents, regions etc. it seems their knowledge is only limited to the USA), world affairs etc.

    And I never said many of the Americans I have met (who don't know **** all about anything beyond their own country) are all ignorant and naive. I said that it makes some (I even bolded this) of them come across as naive and ignorant, and this is mainly because they talk as if they know it all when they know **** all.

    Aside from that, I know some very good (and one of them is very smart) people who I consider good friends, from America.
    I know that it is irrational to teach such a thing, but you made it clear that you don't believe we are taught about other countries, which we are. And I agree that there are those who make Americans look completely stupid, but I already explained my reason for starting this post. It is not for me to try and change the views of others on America. Anyhow I believe we've already had a discussion with each other on this matter and I already know you have many legitimate points so I am fine with ending the discussion here if you are fine with it also.
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    sorry about that.
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    (Original post by Cassandra_Z)
    I didn't realize how much people from different countries absolutely hate and resent the country that I absolutely love until I came across a post in this student website.

    I know I am going to get bashed for this post, but I am already aware of that and am fine with that fact since I just want to understand other countries views.

    I am American and I do know that our country isn't the best, but I am still proud to be born and raised here. For all of those who dislike me just because I am one, all I have to say is that you should really travel to see our country, to meet people here our different communities and backgrounds, and just to get to know more us instead of bashing us head on. I apologize for my rambling on, but if you were in my position what would you think? say? or even do?

    I want to know what you dislike about my country and why? Please don't be too harsh, I am not trying to insult or piss off anyone. I am merely asking the question to understand peoples views and hear different opinions.
    The American government makes me sick but then again so does the British government. Most of the American people seem very distracted and careless when it comes to their government. I bet more people voted on American idol than they did actual presidential elections. The only time people seemed interested was when Obama came along and when asked why do you back Obama, "because...........he's different". lol. Most Americans didn't know what he wanted to change but voted for him any way.

    But Brits have a tendency to bash any country so I guess don't take it too personally.
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    List of reasons why i hate America and Americans
    • Patriotism (I think it's stupid)
    • They screwed over the Indians to get their land
    • They used the first nuclear bomb on Hiroshima & Nagasaki
    • George Bush
    • They're portrayed as either arrogant or ignorant
    • They have stupid laws
    • They have psyco kids running riot in schools with guns committing mass murders
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    (Original post by 'James Hunt')
    List of reasons why i hate America and Americans
    • Patriotism (I think it's stupid)
    • They screwed over the Indians to get their land
    • They used the first nuclear bomb on Hiroshima & Nagasaki
    • George Bush
    • They're portrayed as either arrogant or ignorant
    • They have stupid laws
    • They have psyco kids running riot in schools with guns committing mass murders
    Definitely the pick of your ridiculous reasons. Yes, every American alive today was complicit in that. Just like every British person alive today was complicit in the slave trade :facepalm:
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    (Original post by nazirard)
    The American government makes me sick but then again so does the British government. Most of the American people seem very distracted and careless when it comes to their government. I bet more people voted on American idol than they did actual presidential elections. The only time people seemed interested was when Obama came along and when asked why do you back Obama, "because...........he's different". lol. Most Americans didn't know what he wanted to change but voted for him any way.

    But Brits have a tendency to bash any country so I guess don't take it too personally.
    Mmm I don't agree with my government anymore than most people, but it is where I live and all I can do is go to school in order to learn more so that it may somehow help me in the future to make this country a better place (or perhaps even the world).
    The U.S. is definitely just as guilty.
    I apologize for my first post since I didn't take into consideration what some Americans do/say to other countries and didn't make it clear as to what I was trying to say. The post was more intended to bring forth the fact that I dislike the fact that people were automatically making rude comments once they found out I was an American.
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    (Original post by Cassandra_Z)
    I know that it is irrational to teach such a thing, but you made it clear that you don't believe we are taught about other countries, which we are. And I agree that there are those who make Americans look completely stupid, but I already explained my reason for starting this post. It is not for me to try and change the views of others on America. Anyhow I believe we've already had a discussion with each other on this matter and I already know you have many legitimate points so I am fine with ending the discussion here if you are fine with it also.
    I'm fine with it expect for the bit in bold. I did not say this, I said "I'm beginning to wonder if they're taught this in school at all", which implies I know they are taught it, but based on the many Americans I have met, I'm wondering if they really are, or whether they only get taught about the US in geography.
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    (Original post by Final Fantasy)
    I'm fine with it expect for the bit in bold. I did not say this, I said "I'm beginning to wonder if they're taught this in school at all", which implies I know they are taught it, but based on the many Americans I have met, I'm wondering if they really are, or whether they only get taught about the US in geography.
    I am going to message you my answer.
 
 
 
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