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    (Original post by Spetznaaz)
    I've never done poppers, but i know there effects, and i don't get how you could choose them over cannabis..
    Poppers seem to affect different people in different ways.

    It helped me greatly when I was very depressed. Far better than anti-depressents could have done, and without the side-effects. I had to find an alternative to self-harm, because I was in a situation where I could not let professionals know about my depression. Complicated situation.
    I call the poppers meditation in a bottle. They just let me go of everything. Concentrate, but concentrating on nothing. Just temporarily nothing bad is happening, it's like the rest of the world doesn't exist.

    Cannabis is a bit of fun for me. But poppers are good next time I find myself in a bad place. They allow me to continue functioning fully in everyday life without dealing with my problems - there are some problems that can't be dealt with right away.
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    Poppers give me headaches and make everything looks slightly more green than usual. I can't be doing with them no more.
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    (Original post by lightburns)
    Poppers seem to affect different people in different ways.

    It helped me greatly when I was very depressed. Far better than anti-depressents could have done, and without the side-effects. I had to find an alternative to self-harm, because I was in a situation where I could not let professionals know about my depression. Complicated situation.
    I call the poppers meditation in a bottle. They just let me go of everything. Concentrate, but concentrating on nothing. Just temporarily nothing bad is happening, it's like the rest of the world doesn't exist.

    Cannabis is a bit of fun for me. But poppers are good next time I find myself in a bad place. They allow me to continue functioning fully in everyday life without dealing with my problems - there are some problems that can't be dealt with right away.
    Ah fair enough, definitely a lot safer than the **** they will give you at the doctors for depression.

    Ii was surprised how easily my doctor gave me diazepam, a drug definitely more harmful than cannabis, but the big pharm companies make a lot of money out of a lot of harmful drugs, and everyone knows you can't patent a plant.
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    (Original post by Spetznaaz)
    Ah fair enough, definitely a lot safer than the **** they will give you at the doctors for depression.

    Ii was surprised how easily my doctor gave me diazepam, a drug definitely more harmful than cannabis, but the big pharm companies make a lot of money out of a lot of harmful drugs, and everyone knows you can't patent a plant.
    I'm sure poppers wouldn't help a lot of people with depression - the effects of it seem to vary greatly. 2 of my friends have had it - for one it makes them happy, and for the other just gives a headache.

    It's crazy how me taking a non-addictive, legal drug without side-effects is seen as bad, but people taking drugs prescribed to them is seen as good. wtf? Even my self-harms were less harmful (I only need light cuts, you can't even see the scars any more. Except with extreme changes in temperature, that can sometimes make them all appear again). Light cutting to cover up my problems = bad, Harmful drugs prescribed to cover up my problems = good. ?
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    (Original post by Spetznaaz)
    You should judge a person on who they are, not things like if they drink or smoke or what not.
    The actions people do are who they are. If you smoke or drink etc, then that says something about the person. People's attitudes say a lot about them.

    Anyway, I'm off to write an essay.
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    Don't want too.
    Don't smoke.
    Don't do drugs.
    Rarely (hardly) drink.

    I don't care if it can be a fun experiance, it gives me no long term benefits.

    I could say I'm addicted to adrenaline, though. Hmm... Then again, no short nor long term damage.
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    I agree that it shouldn't necessarily be illegal, it's far less harmful than some legal substances.
    However I personally have never tried it as a close family member became a heroin addict and it has really ruined his life. Luckily he's ok now and has been clean for 10 years, but the damage to his health is irreversible. Obviously Heroin and Cannabis are very different but that's where it started for him. He smoked Cannabis and when that got boring he went on to ecstacy etc.
    I think I get addicted to things quite easily, so I wouldn't want to risk it.

    It's probably not a sound reason. But that's why.
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    (Original post by lightburns)
    I'm sure poppers wouldn't help a lot of people with depression - the effects of it seem to vary greatly. 2 of my friends have had it - for one it makes them happy, and for the other just gives a headache.

    It's crazy how me taking a non-addictive, legal drug without side-effects is seen as bad, but people taking drugs prescribed to them is seen as good. wtf? Even my self-harms were less harmful (I only need light cuts, you can't even see the scars any more. Except with extreme changes in temperature, that can sometimes make them all appear again). Light cutting to cover up my problems = bad, Harmful drugs prescribed to cover up my problems = good. ?
    I know man tell me about it. The amount of legal drugs you can get on prescription is outstanding. Some of them are dreadfully harmful.

    I mean, this is why i am in full support of medical cannabis.

    The DEA got a group of scietists to research cannabis and find out if it had any medical value. They reported back with 'Cannabis is possibly one of the most useful and beneficial medicines known to man, which can treat a huge range of ailments, and if discovered today, would be hailed a miracle drug' - or words to that effect.

    And yet the american government ignored this and cannabis today is still said in many countries, to have absolutely no medical value.

    Funny though, how they have spent a **** load of money synthesizing cannabis related drugs, the newest being sativex, which is just basically a THC extract i think. It works, but not as well as cannabis in it's natural form, only difference is they can patent it.

    If people could grow their own medicine the pharm companies would lose a **** load. Hence why pharm companies give our government a **** load of money to keep cannabis illegal - don't believe me, research for yourself

    This is why extremely harmful and addictive drugs are given out on prescription, and cannabis is completely illegal even for medical use, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

    Makes me sick. And i can;t beleive how many ignorant people really believe the government care about us one bit. It's all about money and power.... trust me.

    Lol sorry for the rant there


    (Original post by fredscarecrow)
    The actions people do are who they are. If you smoke or drink etc, then that says something about the person. People's attitudes say a lot about them.

    Anyway, I'm off to write an essay.
    Yes this is true, and in my experience, people who use drugs are generally much more open minded, sociable, friendly, interesting and free thinking than people who abstain. But, there are also people who waste their lives away on drugs. I don't think we should judge people on singular things, but as a whole.

    We all judge to an extent yes, but judging someone who uses drugs is no different from judging someone who drinks alcohol.

    If you use drugs, it does not mean that you are weak minded or anything like that in case that's what you think. In fact i find people who use drugs tend to be a lot stronger minded, and the ones that do drugs because they are weak minded.. well that's people like heroin addicts.

    Anyway, good luck with your essay

    I gotta start a practical write up in a minute let's do a little experiment here, see if i can pass this coursework while high... :P
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    (Original post by Spetznaaz)
    It's been shown in many studies that while cannabis can cause short term memory loss, it is not permanent, severe short term memory loss could have been caused by many things, just because she used to smoke cannabis does not mean that's what caused it.

    As for the alcohol being better thing, well it all depends where your going. You generally don't get high then go clubbing, if your going to a standard club night drinking would be best, if your going to a rave then mdma, but if your going somewhere to chill and listen to music weed is ideal. There's plenty of places here in bristol that let you smoke weed in the smoking area and some that even let you smoke inside.
    The doctors and hospital specialists that have seen her have said that it's more than likely that smoking weed was the cause of her memory difficulties. Brain scans have showed that parts of her brain have become permanently damaged due to the use of the drug. Cannabis is also linked to paranoia, psychosis and schizophrenia. I know it's not the worst drug out there, but those are factors that put me off smoking it. My mum seriously regrets it because she says she can't think as fast or as intelligently as she used to be able to before smoking weed.

    I usually go clubbing or to loud, busy bars when I go out, so alcohol is probably the best thing for me (I'm not going to even consider taking anything heavier than cannabis). Weed doesn't really suit my lifestyle anyway.
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    (Original post by becomingbindy)
    The doctors and hospital specialists that have seen her have said that it's more than likely that smoking weed was the cause of her memory difficulties. Brain scans have showed that parts of her brain have become permanently damaged due to the use of the drug. Cannabis is also linked to paranoia, psychosis and schizophrenia. I know it's not the worst drug out there, but those are factors that put me off smoking it. My mum seriously regrets it because she says she can't think as fast or as intelligently as she used to be able to before smoking weed.

    I usually go clubbing or to loud, busy bars when I go out, so alcohol is probably the best thing for me (I'm not going to even consider taking anything heavier than cannabis). Weed doesn't really suit my lifestyle anyway.
    Hmmm, well i'm no doctor, but i do know doctors can be quick to blame cannabis. Cannabis has been proven to not cause brain damage, i'm really unsure why the doctors would have come to this conclusion, maybe because they couldnt find any other reason, or maybe it was just an extremely rare case caused by the cannabis - either way you should probably stay away from drugs due to this

    Btw your mums symptoms sound much more like someone who has abused MDMA. Did she ever go raving back in her youth?
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    (Original post by becomingbindy)
    The doctors and hospital specialists that have seen her have said that it's more than likely that smoking weed was the cause of her memory difficulties. Brain scans have showed that parts of her brain have become permanently damaged due to the use of the drug. Cannabis is also linked to paranoia, psychosis and schizophrenia. I know it's not the worst drug out there, but those are factors that put me off smoking it. My mum seriously regrets it because she says she can't think as fast or as intelligently as she used to be able to before smoking weed.
    Someone somewhere along the line is either bull****ting, getting a little confused or trying to scare you. Cannabis doesn't cause brain damage.

    (Original post by becomingbindy)
    I usually go clubbing or to loud, busy bars when I go out, so alcohol is probably the best thing for me (I'm not going to even consider taking anything heavier than cannabis). Weed doesn't really suit my lifestyle anyway.
    Alcohol is also linked to memory loss.
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    I haven't tried it because I don't want to. It doesn't appeal to me.
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    (Original post by Spetznaaz)
    Btw your mums symptoms sound much more like someone who has abused MDMA. Did she ever go raving back in her youth?
    She's told me that the only drugs she's ever taken are cannabis and alcohol. Obviously I wasn't there so I can't know for definite, but I doubt she's lying. She's never been a really heavy drinker or anything either.
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    (Original post by n00)
    Someone somewhere along the line is either bull****ting, getting a little confused or trying to scare you. Cannabis doesn't cause brain damage.

    Alcohol is also linked to memory loss.
    Well it was the doctors who conducted tests on my mum that said that, they probably weren't confused. Alcohol won't cause memory loss or many other damaging side effects at the level I drink it at. About 90% of the time I stay under government recommendations.
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    Personally, while I appreciate the health risks of smoking weed, I still do it quite often, simply because I enjoy it. I see its effects as exactly the same (in terms of damage to your body) as alcohol, if not even less...The illegality of it is completely irrelevent to me.

    While I wouldn't advocate smoking it regularly it's definitely a fun thing you can do to relax and unwind after a long day or just when you fancy kicking back on a saturday night.

    And I'm currently inteviewing for History at Oxford (I'm on the Balliol college computers at this very moment) so I don't think anyone could accuse me of being a lazy, unambitious pothead.

    And those who are grammar and spelling Nazis need to get a life, quite frankly.
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    (Original post by becomingbindy)
    Well it was the doctors who conducted tests on my mum that said that, they probably weren't confused.
    In which case she has some shockingly bad doctors.

    (Original post by becomingbindy)
    Alcohol won't cause memory loss or many other damaging side effects at the level I drink it at. About 90% of the time I stay under government recommendations.
    Probably more likely to than smoking weed very casually and just socially during uni.
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    Can't get it in the first place.

    Get it and are unable to roll properly.

    Feel unsociable smoking it alone.

    Don't want to.

    Most common reasons. A friend said "I've always wanted to try that stuff" and never got round to it for the first three reasons.
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    (Original post by Irrelevance)
    Can't get it in the first place.

    Get it and are unable to roll properly.

    Feel unsociable smoking it alone.

    Don't want to.

    Most common reasons. A friend said "I've always wanted to try that stuff" and never got round to it for the first three reasons.
    Weed is everywhere, one of the easiest things to acquire.

    Rolling is an art and everyone has to start somewhere, or you can just do bowls.

    why would you smoke it alone anyway?
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    are you serious, man?
    i dont smoke weed, i dont drink (a lot) and i dont smoke "normal" cigarettes. first because its bad for myself, and second because i hate people who ruin their health like that and need others to look after them when theyve got lung cancer, laps into coma or lose a leg...
    and yes, THAT is definitely something to try once in your life
    (AND i tried bungee jumping and stuff before as well!)
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    (Original post by Kiwihoney)
    are you serious, man?
    i dont smoke weed, i dont drink (a lot) and i dont smoke "normal" cigarettes. first because its bad for myself, and second because i hate people who ruin their health like that and need others to look after them when theyve got lung cancer, laps into coma or lose a leg...
    and yes, THAT is definitely something to try once in your life
    (AND i tried bungee jumping and stuff before as well!)
    When was the last time someone got lung cancer, went into a coma, or lost a leg from cannabis?

    No matter how much cannabis you smoked you could never go into a coma - quite common from drinking too much alcohol though.

    You know the oldest woman in the world (100 and something i forget) smoked cannabis every single day. I know that doesn't mean much scientifically, but interesting still.
 
 
 
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