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    (Original post by TSA)
    Sure but its got to be conventional. No cheaty cheaty sumo here



    Sure, I'm expecting progress to slow as I get deeper into the cut but little bit of competition is always good.

    Standard GBPF/IPF rules and video must be posted to confirm okay?
    Sounds good to me. Im on 5/3/1 as well and behind you currently. I am however bulking

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    Sounds good to me. Im on 5/3/1 as well and behind you currently. I am however bulking

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    I'm not on 531 anymore. Started Canditos programme just finished the first cycle. Need to change the title of the thread to something like "TSA lifts".
    But I am going to take elements from 531 and change it slightly for my bench as that was working because I'm not progressing on Canditos programme in my bench.

    What variation are you doing? BBB?
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    (Original post by TSA)
    I'm not on 531 anymore. Started Canditos programme just finished the first cycle. Need to change the title of the thread to something like "TSA lifts".
    But I am going to take elements from 531 and change it slightly for my bench as that was working because I'm not progressing on Canditos programme in my bench.

    What variation are you doing? BBB?
    How are you finding it?

    Just running it for my deadlifts with some rows and glute work as assistance

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    I'm curious about how you are finding canditto too. I bombed on it a bit but on reflection I was just pre-injury so that might have been as much to do with it. In theory I like it but at the time it seemed too ambitious. Bench is the only lift I really care about and that's where my problem was so maybe it's a thing with the programme
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    (Original post by RobJ93)
    How are you finding it?

    Just running it for my deadlifts with some rows and glute work as assistance

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    The first two weeks where you focus on volume and hypertrophy are very difficult. I do think that's because I've never really trained with very high volume with short breaks in between. Like drop sets with 60/90seconds rest is nowhere near enough time for me to recover and I think in the second week after one of the squat sessions I ran outside and threw up and had to stop the workout there. But from about week 3 onwards where the program starts to focus on intensity and starts to lower the volume and increase intensity it felt much easier well not easier but the training just felt more comfortable. I think it might be because I've never limited the amount of rest I can have between sets, I've always rested until I was ready again for the next set so timed rests was a bit of a shock.

    What are you doing for the other lifts and how are you finding 531 so far. I miss the fact where I could go in and focus on one main lift a day like on 531. Like just going in with the mindset of "it's deadlift day, gonna hit my last set for AMRAP and I'm done" really helped me kind of push at the end of the workout. The AMRAPs were always fun to do too.
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    I'm curious about how you are finding canditto too. I bombed on it a bit but on reflection I was just pre-injury so that might have been as much to do with it. In theory I like it but at the time it seemed too ambitious. Bench is the only lift I really care about and that's where my problem was so maybe it's a thing with the programme
    From what I've read on other forums and watching Candito competing. The program doesn't do too well to help bench well not mine anyway and other people have had similar problems. In hindsight I think it would have been better not to have read up on how ****ty the bench part of the program was because that might have affected my performance mentally. Going in with an attitude of "well the bench programming is **** how am I going to make progress" isn't exactly the type of mentality that will help me break plateaus.
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    (Original post by TSA)
    From what I've read on other forums and watching Candito competing. The program doesn't do too well to help bench well not mine anyway and other people have had similar problems. In hindsight I think it would have been better not to have read up on how ****ty the bench part of the program was because that might have affected my performance mentally. Going in with an attitude of "well the bench programming is **** how am I going to make progress" isn't exactly the type of mentality that will help me break plateaus.
    FWIW I never read up on it enough to know bench is badly rated and it went bad for me, I just stopped being able to get all the reps to the point I gave up on it without completing the cycle

    I did think it had potential with a bit tweaking for bench but if pretty much everyone bombs with it then perhaps not
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    (Original post by TSA)
    Sure but its got to be conventional. No cheaty cheaty sumo here



    Sure, I'm expecting progress to slow as I get deeper into the cut but little bit of competition is always good.

    Standard GBPF/IPF rules and video must be posted to confirm okay?
    I'd it's standard ipf rules then I'll be sumoing all up in this *****.

    Tbh I'm getting 200 next weekend so it's not a fair contest.

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    (Original post by Motorbiker)
    I'd it's standard ipf rules then I'll be sumoing all up in this *****.

    Tbh I'm getting 200 next weekend so it's not a fair contest.

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    Sumo DL
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    (Original post by TSA)
    Sumo DL
    Oh it's cheating completely I agree on a moral level but not on a technicalities of the rules level.

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    Yup you did say standard IPF rules after all!

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    Also pulling sumo

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    (Original post by RobJ93)
    Also pulling sumo

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    Will just have to beat you whilst pulling conv. Will make the win so much sweeter
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    That feel when I've pulled 220kg conventional before. Before injuring myself.

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    (Original post by Motorbiker)
    That feel when I've pulled 220kg conventional before. Before injuring myself.

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    How did you get injured? What weight were you at when you pulled 220 and what weight are you at now?
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    How did you get injured? What weight were you at when you pulled 220 and what weight are you at now?
    Conventional deadlifting with terrible very rounded lower back fornm. Not tight etc etc.

    I was ~83 ish i think. . 84 now.
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    Went straight onto new cycle without deloading or testing 1rm because I'll be having a mock meet with some friends to test my 1rm in September and didn't feel it was necessary.

    Weight: 83.0kg (post workout and breakfast) will be tracking at a standard time, first thing in the morning from tomorrow. Goal is 73.9kg by mid November as that's my next meet.

    Diet: 2000calories (incl. 180g protein)

    Todays workout:

    SQ: 127.5 x 6 6 6 6 (First two sets felt comfortable not easy but what you'd expect from 80%, last two sets were difficult, especially last two reps on last set but grinded them out)
    DL: 155 x 6 6 (First set felt reasonable second set felt heavy, form was okay could have been better need to remember to squeeze lats when setting up)

    Legs feel a bit sore but happy with that workout.
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    You've been straight up beasting it lately. What was the turning point for you? I remember back when you were plateauing for ages and were v demotivated

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    (Original post by Squirb)
    You've been straight up beasting it lately. What was the turning point for you? I remember back when you were plateauing for ages and were v demotivated

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    Just generally feeling better in life. As cringeworthy as that sounds. Managed to get a few friends onboard so now have some people to discuss lifting with, came to the acceptance that sometimes **** happens and you've just got to rise above it. Also having much less things to focus on, currently revising for delayed sits in August so I'm literally just eating, sleeping, training and revising. Hoping this mentality will travel through to my studies next year as I want a first.
    Just taking a much more positive outlook on life and training. Recently broke up with my girlfriend so that my have something to do with it too.

    Bench is still kind of crap but made some adjustment to it hoping it will work.

    Bench program is
    Workout A
    3x5 normal grip bench
    3x5 close grip bench

    Workout B
    i) 65%/75%/85% 5 reps
    ii)70%/80%/90% 3 reps
    iii)75%/85%/95% 531 reps
    Accessory work focussing on triceps

    Alternate between workout A and B, so will look like
    Workout A
    Workout B i
    Workout A
    Workout B ii

    Essentially what I was doing on Wenders 531 after I made adjustments that were working for me
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    That's good. I need to take a leaf out of your book. Glad you're doing well now though, it's good to see!

    Looks good, close grip bench helped me a lot last summer



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