The Israel/Palestine Conflict Mk. IV

Israel is actively targeting Gaza, which also includes civilian buildings. Nowhere under international law is Israel allowed to do that.

See? All I had to do was copy paste your righteous little excerpt and replace 'Israel' with 'Hamas' and it's still makes as sense as ever it did, indeed perhaps even more than it previously did.
Hamas hasn't the equipment Israel has to boast of accurate pot-shots at Israeli military stations. You are again making use of the correlation-causation fallacy.

I am far from employing hyperbole. I am not acquainted with the international law you quote so I have to take your word for it, which needless to say I will not, so I have little to say to you other than what I do know about international law, and that is that is certainly does not legalise the killing of Palestinian civilians, no matter if they're notified or not. International organisations have made that unanimously abundantly clear regarding what is currently going on; you can ignore/deny it as much as you like, but it just simply stands.

Hamas would beg to differ with the Zionist take on its objective.

Hamas called for a ceasefire on terms they judged would better livelihood in Gaza. Israel rejected that.

Listen, you racist schmuck, I'm not replying to you on purpose, and you're pathetic for trying to get my attention once again. You are a deluded Zionist git, much like the others on here, but to their credit they can at least hold a sensible argument and make sensible comments instead of resort to offensive and irrelevant tactics. This thread is devoted to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, not to the conflict in Syria and Iraq. You wretched Zionists, whenever cornered, always grab at anything else that'll distract from the issue at hand. Learn to hold a proper conversation before engaging in a debate or go fück yourself.

LOL Honestly, don't waste your time with them, they aren't at all rational folk. They'll just recycle the same rubbish pro-Israeli arguments to you that they memorised from ridiculous websites ( answeringpropalestinians.org or something equally unimaginative).

This. What is Hamas actually doing to stop civilian deaths? Israel is not only trying to prevent civilian deaths in their own country, but also trying to prevent civilian deaths in Palestine. All Hamas is doing is firing crappy rockets. Hamas needs the ceasefire a lot more than Israel does, yet they want to continue it knowing that more of their people are going to die. Hamas deliberately operates in civilian areas because they don't care about civilian deaths. They use their civilians as shields against Israel and then when innocent civilians die, use it as a media opportunity to demonize Israel.

Israel defends itself with the little dome thing - that's defence.

Murdering children playing football and bombing houses - that's war.

LOL Honestly, don't waste your time with them, they aren't at all rational folk. They'll just recycle the same rubbish pro-Israeli arguments to you that they memorised from ridiculous websites ( answeringpropalestinians.org or something equally unimaginative).

And what happens after Hamas agrees to a ceasefire? Business as usual: Israeli raids on homes every other day, Israeli oppression as usual, arrests and reprehensible treatment of Gazans, .

And what happens after Hamas agrees to a ceasefire? Business as usual: Israeli raids on homes every other day, Israeli oppression as usual, arrests and reprehensible treatment of Gazans, and the list goes on and on, and, most importantly, the blockade operated on the Gaza strip, the reason why life in Gaza is horrible and cannot be bettered, continues, with no end in sight.

Oh look, a Hamas supporter. I'll pretend not to be disgusted as much as id be at someone justifying ISIS or Al Qaeda.

1) We know Hamas is under no obligation to stop firing Iranian supplied rockets at Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, their existence is to kill Jews as written in their charter. Oh, and no obligation either to stop using the Palestinian people as HUMAN SHIELDS. A Palestinian child being killed is good headlines for them, nothing more.

2) This ceasefire was not some chit chat on twitter. It was a formal proposal endorsed by the Arab League, the U.S. and the UN.

3) A loser does not set terms. Have you watched the movie "Downfall" which is about the Soviets going into Berlin in 1945? the soviet general almost laughed when the Germans asked for a conditional ceasefire.

3) Between 2005-2007 when the PA had Gaza under their control, there was no blockade by Israel and Egypt. The blockade came because Hamas came to power and imported missiles, turning Gaza into an Iranian launching pad for rockets. What kind of country would allow a terrorist group to have free movement and smuggle more weapons in? their terms are reasonable if you hate Israel.

4) The main aggressor is not Israel when Hamas started this by firing 350 rockets at Israeli cities, 3 weeks prior to the Israel finally reacting. Hamas is an aggressor against both Israel and the Palestinians.

Israel uses weapons to defend its civilians. Hamas uses its civilians to defend its weapons.

Yeah right! So I know absolutely nothing of the Arab mentality, never having been to Arab countries, or read about them, or never taken an interest in them or any other peoples with whom I share this planet, or been exposed to any news or documentaries about Arab nations for the last few decades, etc. And yeah, Islam is more egalitarian than Judaism and Christianity. LOL, thanks for the laugh !!
The fruits of your Islamic egalitarianism are easy to see today, e.g. women walking behind their husbands like good little wives. The level of gender egalitarianism across the Abrahamic religious spectrum is obvious for all to see by their social way of life today and Islam lags conspicuously way behind the others. Oh yeah, and keep blaming Israel and the West for all the problems in the Arab world. You talk one-sided bollix with putdowns thrown in - a sure sign of a polemicist with an unwillingness for sober, warts 'n' all debate. You sound like you've swallowed a Guardian newspaper and regurgitated it like a parrot.

But whats going to happen if the ceasefire doesn't happen? There are going to be more deaths, mostly on the Palestinian side. Hamas is out of their depth, more and more rockets are being fired at Israel that are just struck down by Iron Dome. Hamas isn't going to achieve nothing by continued fighting since Israel is perfectly capable of defending its citizens, Hamas on the otherhand doesn't necessarily care enough about its citizens to actually think of ways to protect them, most of the time they are actively putting them in harms way by using civilian areas for their operations. They are basically usually their civilians as human shields. If Israel was fighting the way Hamas is fighting, I'm pretty sure there would be a lot more casualties on the Israeli side.

Also you have to take into account the fact that Hamas purposely target civilian areas in order to kill as many Israelites as possible, they actually celebrate the deaths of Israeli people whereas Israel is purposely trying to prevent the deaths that are happening, they are doing all they possibly can to warn civilians beforehand.

I don't condone Israel's actions, I don't condone all these deaths, but stop acting like Hamas is the victim because it is not. Just because Israel is defending itself better than Hamas is, doesn't mean that Israel is the big baddie and Hamas is the helpless victim because that is not the case at all.

I also wonder if a lot of you would be supporting Hamas if Hamas wasn't an Islamic government and Palestinians weren't mostly Muslim.

Can I also add that putting a laughing emoticon before your reply doesn't make my post any less credible.

Well this is complete and utter bull.

Israel is not in Gaza. Israel does not arrest Gazans.