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    (Original post by stoltguyboo)
    Homophobic attitudes and bigoted views should be OUTLAWED!

    #It's2015
    That fact that its 2015 means they should be able to say exactly what they want. its freedom of speech. just becuase u dont like it doesnt mean it should be outlawed Or that people should be punished for their views than we might as well in an islamic state. did u learn nothing from the whole je suis charlie campaign??
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    (Original post by Asklepios)
    And as I said, some disease may carry an evolutionary benefit (like cystic fibrosis and sickle-cell anaemia). The key part where people differ is whether or not homosexuality is a disorder of individual behaviour or not. Some people would say it's a 'normal variation of normal' but I would say it's 'abnormal.' If Asperger's syndrome (linked to high testosterone in utero) is a disorder then surely male homosexuality (linked to low testosterone in utero) is a disorder on the opposite end of the spectrum?


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    And you are a medicine student? :eek:

    P.S. I fail to see how an abnormality or a deviation from the norm is necessarily a disorder.
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    (Original post by Messiah Complex)
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-fanatics.html

    But do go on.........We'll just ignore the viewpoints of someone from the greatest STEM University on the planet.

    :rolleyes:
    That guy is an idiot whose views on climate change are laughed at by the majority of the scientific community. I don't know what planet you're living on but the opinions of one selected individual does not negate the views of the entire global scientific establishment. I could give you the names of a hundred more reputable scientists who would directly contradict his points of views. This guy has been proven wrong on so many occasions, there's absolutely no reason to even listen to what he has to say.He's also retired, he is not active at MIT. His views are not reflective of the MIT.
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    Benedict Cumberbatch is overrated.
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    (Original post by Chlorophile)



    Yes. Your point being?
    So their lives should be a misery. Surely you can't disagree?
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    (Original post by green.tea)
    Benedict Cumberbatch is overrated.
    Now that is controversial.
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    (Original post by Xin Xang)
    Where is the financial/ideological/political motive ? :dontknow:
    Are you really this naive?

    1) In a time when governments need to raise taxes on the general public as opposed to taxing their friends in big business it gives them a way of doing so
    2) It's in the interests of researchers and the scientific field because they get continuous investment - I'd do the same in their position as well
    3) I wouldn't say there's any ideological motive - purely political/economical/financial

    (Original post by Chlorophile)
    Right, and what exactly puts you in the position to have a say in this argument? Are you actually able to construct a logical argument as to how the science is wrong, or are you just saying this because it fits with your political views?
    As a Bachelor of Science, I'm more qualified than you to have a say on such given that you haven't even been to university yet. So please do not take the personal attack approach because its getting rather tiresome, buddy. Yes, there's ample evidence to suggest the science is wrong because the raw data has been manipulated to overstate what is actually happening.

    You go around this forum like you're some sort of expert on climate science when in reality there's not one climate science expert on the planet because the field has been around for what? 25-30 years at most. Even those with decades in the field are still learning every day and are not experts yet you waltz around the forum like you have all the answers and everyone else is wrong. You're also incredibly naive and believe stats cannot be manipulated for other goals.
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    (Original post by Asklepios)
    Well yes, the key is where to draw the line between normal variation and abnormality. I edited my post, see point about Asperger's syndrome.


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    In my opinion, if it does not affect your/other's daily life functioning it should not be considered in a negative light.
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    (Original post by Chlorophile)
    That guy is an idiot whose views on climate change are laughed at by the majority of the scientific community. I don't know what planet you're living on but the opinions of one selected individual does not negate the views of the entire global scientific establishment. I could give you the names of a hundred more reputable scientists who would directly contradict his points of views. This guy has been proven wrong on so many occasions, there's absolutely no reason to even listen to what he has to say.He's also retired, he is not active at MIT. His views are not reflective of the MIT.
    No, you choose to not listen to what he has to say because you disagree with it. Stop parading around the forum as if you are some superior expert on the subject when in reality you know nothing. You're just a kid and you haven't even been to university yet.
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    Religion is one of the world's greatest problems.
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    (Original post by Messiah Complex)
    As a Bachelor of Science, I'm more qualified than you to have a say on such given that you haven't even been to university yet. So please do not take the personal attack approach because its getting rather tiresome, buddy. Yes, there's ample evidence to suggest the science is wrong because the raw data has been manipulated to overstate what is actually happening.

    You go around this forum like you're some sort of expert on climate science when in reality there's not one climate science expert on the planet because the field has been around for what? 25-30 years at most. Even those with decades in the field are still learning every day and are not experts yet you waltz around the forum like you have all the answers and everyone else is wrong. You're also incredibly naive and believe stats cannot be manipulated for other goals.
    No you're not! Having a degree in a science subject doesn't make you right. You've got a piece of paper to say that you've studied a STEM subject (which for all I know, isn't even vaguely related to climate science). How on earth does that make you more knowledgeable than the entire global scientific community?

    If you claim to know so much about climatology, tell me why the mainstream scientific opinion is wrong. Don't make political arguments, this isn't a political debate. Give me evidence that contradicts the prevailing scientific opinion that the observed climate change is largely anthropogenic. If you're such a great scientist then constructing a scientific argument shouldn't be too difficult.

    (Original post by Messiah Complex)
    No, you choose to not listen to what he has to say because you disagree with it. Stop parading around the forum as if you are some superior expert on the subject when in reality you know nothing. You're just a kid and you haven't even been to university yet.
    Rather than reminding me about how old I am, how about you explain why I'm wrong? If I'm as stupid as you make out, that oughtn't be too difficult. This isn't you arguing against me, this is you arguing against the global scientific community. These ideas aren't mine, these are the opinions of thousands of active scientists working in this area who are infinitely more qualified than either of us to have a say on the matter.

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    So their lives should be a misery. Surely you can't disagree?
    I do disagree, I think that's a massive oversimplification.
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    My most controversial view is probably that being a human being, a member of the species homo sapiens, is not enough to give one a 'right' to life.
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    (Original post by Chlorophile)


    I do disagree, I think that's a massive oversimplification.
    I find that amazing. Genuinely amazing.
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    (Original post by SH0405)
    I find that amazing. Genuinely amazing.
    There are so many different factors that can lead to someone doing something. Simply to say "You've killed someone, your entire life now deserves to be written off" is pretty naive in my view. Human lives are much more complicated than that.
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    (Original post by Messiah Complex)
    Are you really this naive?

    1) In a time when governments need to raise taxes on the general public as opposed to taxing their friends in big business it gives them a way of doing so
    2) It's in the interests of researchers and the scientific field because they get continuous investment - I'd do the same in their position as well
    3) I wouldn't say there's any ideological motive - purely political/economical/financial
    1.Yes but surely it is their friends in big oil companies who are under a large amount of pressure from the government and general Population as a consequence of this global warming "lie".

    Common sense would tell you that in the absence of this theory, oil companies would be far more prosperous.

    2. So you are telling me, that scientists throughout the world, went through the effort of studying a science for many years. Only to propagate A false theory in the hope of receiving investment to further propagate this theory.

    Why stop here? Why not scrutinise all scientific theories in the same manner.

    I guess gravity is also lie, designed to improve the sales of aeroplanes so that everyone would be kept under the false notion that humans cannot fly?

    :facepalm:




    3. :hmpf:
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    Has to be either not disliking Muslims or thinking genders should be equal.

    Or at least those are the two that cause the most controversy when I air them.
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    (Original post by Chlorophile)
    There are so many different factors that can lead to someone doing something. Simply to say "You've killed someone, your entire life now deserves to be written off" is pretty naive in my view. Human lives are much more complicated than that.
    Seems logical to me. Shall we agree to disagree?
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    (Original post by Messiah Complex)
    Where does NASA get its money from? It doesn't take a genius to work it out. It's rather easy to manipulate data to create thousands of research jobs and get further funding. Its happened elsewhere as well.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/1...l-warming.html
    The 'urban heat island' effect noted on the graphs reminds me of the Mauna Loa graph shown by my geography teacher which purports an increase in temperature over the last X years, and that that graph is controversial for volcanoes release some CO2.

    But still, while I do not claim to be an expert on science, I ask if combustion of fuels releases carbon dioxide, and use of fuels has increased since the Industrial Revolution and especially since World War 2, and if the CO2 isn't going to the atmosphere, where does it go?
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    Animals have just as much right to live and be free from torture as humans.
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    Faith schools should be banned


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