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    (Original post by 0to100)
    he joined a terrorist group before doing the attack. Don't post foolishness mate. Just google his name Omar Mateen. He joined ISIL. So sure he might've agreed to be a martyr for his own struggles but he still was apart of a terrorist group ok.
    ISIL are Islamic extremists and are NOT representative of the millions of peaceful Islamic's.

    (Original post by TheStudent19)
    You say that but look at where the problems are in the world right now. Wars in Muslim countries, oppression of women in Muslim countries, hanging of homosexuals in Muslim countries. Not saying this does't happen elsewhere but you can't say that Islam encourages peace. Look at these Muslim countries. They're far from peaceful.
    See above.
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    (Original post by silvercloud6)
    If you want to know more I would urge you to watch videos and lectures on islam and the Quran by eminent muslim scholars like Dr. Zakir Nayak
    You may as well know: there's no quicker way to discredit yourself in a discussion about religion/Islam than to cite a demagogic charlatan like Naik.

    (Original post by nucdev)
    :rofl3::rofl3::rofl3::rofl3:

    I'm sorry, I CANNOT take you seriously if you think Zakir Naik is trustworthy and should be listened to! :rofl:
    Damn, you beat me to it. :sad:
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    (Original post by SpiritSharD)
    ISIL are Islamic extremists and are NOT representative of the millions of peaceful Islamic's.
    It's not just ISIL. The way these countries are run is horrific.
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    (Original post by TheStudent19)
    It's not just ISIL. The way these countries are run is horrific.

    And ISIL are significant enough even if they are just "a few extremists". They've turned the middle east into a **** show.
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    (Original post by sfaraj)
    the religion has rules yes, bu the guy didnt do it for religion, he pledged alligence to 3 rival terrorist groups when he called 911.

    do you really think all muslims around the world have rejoiced and are partying? no, the media doesn't show this but countless muslims have gone to remember those who died in orlando. if you look carefully you will spot them

    but your opinion i cant force you to stay although tdo think about it and read into islam and homosexuality first

    i condemned this attack and thought it was absolutely horrific, its one of the scariest things for me to think about
    Hate to be that guy, but

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBlwxqqAprQ
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    (Original post by TheStudent19)
    It's not just ISIL. The way these countries are run is horrific.
    That's down to the individuals in charge, not the religion itself.

    Christianity, Islam, Judaism etc; much evil has been done in the name of a faith, but these are extremists who are twisted and evil and choose to interpret things differently from the rest.
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    (Original post by Boss_Rhythm)
    WTF? It's like saying we can cut all the trees in the world if we want, they aren't like people they have no rights....
    Yea, we're free to say that too. I have the right to diss any religion/ideology I want to, as do you and everyone else. You can say whatever you like about Christianity/Judaism/Buddhism/whatever and I can say whatever I like about them as well, including Islam. It's called freedom of speech and it's a basic human right.

    Just because it's *your* religion, it doesn't deserve or get special privileges. Whether you're offended or not is completely irrelevant. If you don't like it then go to Saudi.

    "By silencing others one loses their own right to speak. To silence others is to cut out your own tongue."
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    (Original post by SpiritSharD)
    That's down to the individuals in charge, not the religion itself.

    Christianity, Islam, Judaism etc; much evil has been done in the name of a faith, but these are extremists who are twisted and evil and choose to interpret things differently from the rest.
    The individuals in charge follow Islam and behave in a way that Islam says is OK. Of course it's down to the individuals, but which Muslim countries have similar freedoms to the western world? Did they all just happen to get bad leaders? Or does Islam have an influence here?
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    (Original post by TheStudent19)
    You say that but look at where the problems are in the world right now. Wars in Muslim countries, oppression of women in Muslim countries, hanging of homosexuals in Muslim countries. Not saying this does't happen elsewhere but you can't say that Islam encourages peace. Look at these Muslim countries. They're far from peaceful.
    The King Saul of Israel the 1st king there, was ordered by God to kill all the people of Amalek and their king Agag which is now a region of the Levant. These people were seen as violent and brutal and hateful and were ordered to be wiped out so they don't commit these acts in the future. It's said that this explains the recurrent war between Jews and Muslims, that Jews brought this upon themselves because Saul didn't kill all of them like he was ordered too. So I feel bad for neither Jews nor Muslims and see it the cruelty of Islam as fateful and the Jew's fault alone.
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    (Original post by Peroxidation)
    Yea, we're free to say that too. I have the right to diss any religion/ideology I want to, as do you and everyone else. You can say whatever you like about Christianity/Judaism/Buddhism/whatever and I can say whatever I like about them as well, including Islam. It's called freedom of speech and it's a basic human right.

    Just because it's *your* religion, it doesn't deserve or get special privileges. Whether you're offended or not is completely irrelevant. If you don't like it then go to Saudi.

    "By silencing others one loses their own right to speak. To silence others is to cut out your own tongue."
    The stupidity and ignorance of your remark amuses me.
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    (Original post by SpiritSharD)
    ISIL are Islamic extremists and are NOT representative of the millions of peaceful Islamic's.



    See above.
    Oh hush.

    (Original post by SpiritSharD)
    That's down to the individuals in charge, not the religion itself.
    Hush again. These territories are governed by Muslim theology are you actually mad right now playing the blind liberal :nothing:
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    lol
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I don't want to be part of a religion that condones the killing of homosexuals.
    islam does not condemn the killing of anyone let alone homosexuals,
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    (Original post by TheStudent19)
    The individuals in charge follow Islam and behave in a way that Islam says is OK. Of course it's down to the individuals, but which Muslim countries have similar freedoms to the western world? Did they all just happen to get bad leaders? Or does Islam have an influence here?
    Islam is no more violent than other religions were. Again, it is down to how individuals/groups interpret teachings and how they choose to live their lives.

    (Original post by 0to100)
    Hush again. These territories are governed by Muslim theology are you actually mad right now playing the blind liberal :nothing:

    I am actually genuinely surprised at how ignorant you are being, as I perceived you as an intelligent guy. I am not going to hate on an innocent group of people because individuals within that group are hateful and enact violence.
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    (Original post by pelaitsc45)
    How the **** can you say it's a religion of peace after this shooting and the countless other terrorist attacks in the name of Allah.

    Jesus christ, it's not only disrespectful, but downright stupid.
    Twisted ideology, but people perceive it in different ways but the instigators of these various perceptions have led to these countless acts of brutality. I wouldn't call it downright stupid
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    (Original post by 0to100)
    So I feel bad for neither Jews nor Muslims and see it the cruelty of Islam as fateful and the Jew's fault alone.
    I don't think I get your point my friend. How can we blame Jews for Muslims running their country's the way they do? Muslims kill other gay Muslims in the name of Islam, what does that have to do with Jews? Islam influences the way these "leaders" behave and as a result their countries oppress countless groups.
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    (Original post by SpiritSharD)
    Islam is no more violent than other religions were. Again, it is down to how individuals/groups interpret teachings and how they choose to live their lives.




    I am actually genuinely surprised at how ignorant you are being, as I perceived you as an intelligent guy. I am not going to hate on an innocent group of people because individuals within that group are hateful and enact violence.
    You're trying to brush this off as if the problems in Muslim countries right now are just the result of a few twisted people. They're not. The problems are a result of Islam and it's teachings.

    Nobody here is saying they hate Muslims personally. We're criticising the ideology and the effect it has had on the modern world.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Well the Quran wishes death on homosexuals.
    Call me semantic... but The Epicurean.

    (It's his niche.)
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    You saw sense, well done


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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I've chosen to leave the Islamic faith following the attack on the gay club 4 days ago.
    are you crazy? don't blame the religion but blame who did the attack!!!
    islam is a peaceful religion it comes from the word salam (peace) in Arabic.
    there is a verse in the Quran that says:
    "whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land – it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one – it is as if he had saved mankind entirely"

    not all muslims are terrorists and not all terrorists are muslims!!!
 
 
 
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