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    (Original post by awascher)
    Hi everyone,

    Congrats to all of you who have received job offers. I have also been offered a Band O Position last week in London. I have filled out the next stage information stratight away. Does anyone know how long the checks going to take? Do we need to wait for any further paper or they will be in touch?

    Thank you.
    Hey,
    Congrats on your offer too, I'm also in the same position. I have heard checks can take upto 3 months and that HMRC get in touch once the checks are complete.

    I had another question, on the portal under attachments there are various forms, does anyone know whether we are required to fill these in yet? and if so where are these completed forms supposed to be sent?...the provisional offer e-mail did not mention these forms at all so I don't actually know what to do. Would be grateful for some guidance.
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    (Original post by awascher)
    Hi everyone,

    Congrats to all of you who have received job offers. I have also been offered a Band O Position last week in London. I have filled out the next stage information stratight away. Does anyone know how long the checks going to take? Do we need to wait for any further paper or they will be in touch?

    Thank you.
    Congrats! Hmrc emailed me and said pre employment checks normally take around 20 working days (I.e. 4 weeks/a month).

    They'll email you once they've been completed.

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    (Original post by Looking4jobs127)
    Congrats! Hmrc emailed me and said pre employment checks normally take around 20 working days (I.e. 4 weeks/a month).

    They'll email you once they've been completed.

    Do they send an email to say they received you acceptance? / filled out the next stage bits?
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    (Original post by Tbx)
    Do they send an email to say they received you acceptance? / filled out the next stage bits?
    They normally do for your acceptance email yeah. The next stage bits they'll probably just email you once all the checks have been completed (unless you email them directly).
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    (Original post by Looking4jobs127)
    They normally do for your acceptance email yeah. The next stage bits they'll probably just email you once all the checks have been completed (unless you email them directly).
    I replied back confirming my acceptance but haven't heard anything back yet :/
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    I received the TSP timetable today and I have a few queries...It appears that there are 3 separate two-day induction events in Lincoln the week beginning the 12th September. Am I right in assuming all travel costs would be reimbursed? Also, for module 1 (book-keeping), it says 3 'days in class' each week. This can't be correct, can it? The other modules suggest only 1 day a week. I know this will all be cleared up when we start, but I'm getting impatient/excited!
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    (Original post by Mallet)
    To my knowledge, ALL new starters are now on the same contractual hours: 8-8, 5 out of 7 days. This gives HMRC the flexibility to place staff where they need them or move staff around if necessary. In the past that proved difficult when certain people were (and still are) on fixed hours contracts.

    In practice, as a tax professional it's likely you will work normal office hours, Mon-Fri. Evenings and weekends will GENERALLY apply to staff in Operational Delivery, rather than Tax Professional, roles, but also some specialist Tax Professional roles, as others have stated on here previously. However, as I said, the flexibility is there to meet the requirements of each individual line of business.

    Strictly speaking, the availability of flexitime also depends on the requirements of individual lines of business and even which office you work in. However, GENERALLY there is some sort of flexible working available across the whole/most of the department.
    Hi Mallet,

    I wonder if you could explain abit more about what do operational delivery caseworkers do please?
    Because I have declined my tsp offered and now been offered Tax Professional / Operational Delivery Caseworker at Higher Officer in Greater London, which I have no clue of what the post entail although from researching online it seems to involve advising customer on tax payments and analysis?
    Is this not the same as a tax specialist? It states it is a two year programme and what do we study exactly for the programme do you know?

    Is greater London pay the same as London or national

    Sorry for bombarding you with lots of questions.
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    (Original post by Wsb0819)
    I received the TSP timetable today and I have a few queries...It appears that there are 3 separate two-day induction events in Lincoln the week beginning the 12th September. Am I right in assuming all travel costs would be reimbursed? Also, for module 1 (book-keeping), it says 3 'days in class' each week. This can't be correct, can it? The other modules suggest only 1 day a week. I know this will all be cleared up when we start, but I'm getting impatient/excited!
    Travel will be paid for.
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    Hello everyone, bit of an update. As I wrote in last week, I had been transferred from the TSP reserve list to the CSR/1666/16 HMRC Band HO Tax Professional Programme 2016 reserve list, as I guess they'd filled all the slots on TSP. Had this email through today:

    Further to your application for the Tax Specialist Programme and the e-mail you received advising that we would consider offering appointments to other roles in HMRC.

    I am pleased to be able to offer you an opportunity to join HM Revenue and Customs as a Tax Professional / Operational Delivery Caseworker at Higher Officer in Manchester.

    This is a role in an exciting and challenging environment in HMRC. You will be part of a dynamic team working together with energy and enthusiasm and focusing on tackling tax evasion and non-compliance. The work is varied and interesting, it can be challenging but also rewarding. Training comprises of a mixture of e-learning, face to face and practical exercises and you may be required to undertake study, complete learning assessments and pass tax professional modules and exams within a given period.

    Exciting news! There is still hope out there for us reserve listers. Not counting my chickens just yet as it's only a provisional offer with no set start date and subject to pre-employment checks etc. But promising nonetheless. Anyone else going to be working in Manchester on Evasion and Non-compliance?
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    (Original post by Just\Me)
    Hey,
    Congrats on your offer too, I'm also in the same position. I have heard checks can take upto 3 months and that HMRC get in touch once the checks are complete.

    I had another question, on the portal under attachments there are various forms, does anyone know whether we are required to fill these in yet? and if so where are these completed forms supposed to be sent?...the provisional offer e-mail did not mention these forms at all so I don't actually know what to do. Would be grateful for some guidance.
    Friend already at HMRC tells me this paperwork is to be brought with you on first day after formal offer.
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    (Original post by MurphysLaw2471)
    Friend already at HMRC tells me this paperwork is to be brought with you on first day after formal offer.
    Thanks for the clarification
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    (Original post by JDW87)
    Hello everyone, bit of an update. As I wrote in last week, I had been transferred from the TSP reserve list to the CSR/1666/16 HMRC Band HO Tax Professional Programme 2016 reserve list, as I guess they'd filled all the slots on TSP. Had this email through today:

    Further to your application for the Tax Specialist Programme and the e-mail you received advising that we would consider offering appointments to other roles in HMRC.

    I am pleased to be able to offer you an opportunity to join HM Revenue and Customs as a Tax Professional / Operational Delivery Caseworker at Higher Officer in Manchester.

    This is a role in an exciting and challenging environment in HMRC. You will be part of a dynamic team working together with energy and enthusiasm and focusing on tackling tax evasion and non-compliance. The work is varied and interesting, it can be challenging but also rewarding. Training comprises of a mixture of e-learning, face to face and practical exercises and you may be required to undertake study, complete learning assessments and pass tax professional modules and exams within a given period.

    Exciting news! There is still hope out there for us reserve listers. Not counting my chickens just yet as it's only a provisional offer with no set start date and subject to pre-employment checks etc. But promising nonetheless. Anyone else going to be working in Manchester on Evasion and Non-compliance?
    So is this the TSP programme they are offering or HO?
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    (Original post by gingerwizard)
    So is this the TSP programme they are offering or HO?
    It's an HO role. It's the Tax Professional Programme instead of Tax Specialist Programme. I think it's a different reserve that the reserve listers for the TSP have been transferred to. It just appeared on my CSR portal last week then today got the offer. In the job description it sounds fairly similar, pay is the same (iirc) as the TSP to start but is a 2 year programme and I imagine doesn't have quite the same prospects for progression.
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    (Original post by Tbx)
    I replied back confirming my acceptance but haven't heard anything back yet :/
    Try and email them again to see if they got your acceptance but tbf to them it is a busy period for the recruitment team as they're dealing with O and HO recruiting. Should be fine though
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    (Original post by JDW87)
    It's an HO role. It's the Tax Professional Programme instead of Tax Specialist Programme. I think it's a different reserve that the reserve listers for the TSP have been transferred to. It just appeared on my CSR portal last week then today got the offer. In the job description it sounds fairly similar, pay is the same (iirc) as the TSP to start but is a 2 year programme and I imagine doesn't have quite the same prospects for progression.
    Pay is actually better for the HO roles than the TSP (in the short term).

    TSP Pay for the first two years is £27045 (National) / £29256 (London) - and then increases at the two year point by about 4-5k.

    HO pay is £29358 (National) / £33388 (London) - And so is a few K better initially, although you're right to say that the trade off is in terms of less training/progression than the scheme.
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    (Original post by Freebands)
    What is the office dress code?
    Smart casual is pretty standard across the Civil Service. You'll be expected to be towards the smarter end of the spectrum if you've got meetings with taxpayers, otherwise its not too strict.

    As a guy, smart shirt/trousers is standard. Jacket is optional (some do, some don't), and most don't bother with a tie. Always worth keeping an emergency tie in your office drawer just in case you get called into something important at the last minute though!
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    As Antipathy says, a lot of people dress smart casual but it's not uncommon at all to see people in jeans/t-shirts even shorts in the summer. It's pretty much down to personal choice unless you're meeting taxpayers/agents, in which case you'll be expected to dress fairly smartly as you're representing the Department.

    However, if you're training toward being a G7 it'd be wise to dress at least fairly smartly (shirt and trousers/equivalent for women) as you're training to be a future leader and will be very visible to others in the office. I've seen plenty of G7s/G6s dress like they've just got out of bed though so it's a very grey area . . .
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    (Original post by antipathy)
    Pay is actually better for the HO roles than the TSP (in the short term).

    TSP Pay for the first two years is £27045 (National) / £29256 (London) - and then increases at the two year point by about 4-5k.

    HO pay is £29358 (National) / £33388 (London) - And so is a few K better initially, although you're right to say that the trade off is in terms of less training/progression than the scheme.
    HMRC also has an Advanced Tax Specialist Programme for people already working in HMRC who have completed their Tax Inspector training and have two years operational experience. If you apply and are successful you would join TSP members in the final two years of their programme and would be fast streamed to grade 7.
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    (Original post by pukahontas)
    HMRC also has an Advanced Tax Specialist Programme for people already working in HMRC who have completed their Tax Inspector training and have two years operational experience. If you apply and are successful you would join TSP members in the final two years of their programme and would be fast streamed to grade 7.
    Hi,
    Does that mean if I have worked for two years as a HO operational delivery caseworker I should be eligible for this advanced programme? Or is the tax inspection training something that I have to apply to get on seperately in order to complete it? And what exactly do the operational delivery caseworkers do do you know?
    Joining the tsp in the very last two years of the programme does it still allow you to obtain the BA degree as well?

    Thanks, sorry for asking so many things at the same time
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    Sounds like HO is just another route to g7 albeit perhaps a year or two longer If say you don't succeed in application for the final 2 years of the TSP at first attempt. Well done none the less.
 
 
 
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