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    (Original post by shadowdweller)
    Well with logic like that, who are we to argue?

    It's ridiculous. I'm fine with people being against it because of religion, but I find it mindboggling that they just obey what is said without question

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    Exactly. I think I said something about her wanting god to not only be the uncaused cause at the beginning of the universe but also the unjustified justification at the root of all our moral reasoning, then left it alone.

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    Exactly. I think I said something about her wanting god to not only be the uncaused cause at the beginning of the universe but also the unjustified justification at the root of all our moral reasoning, then left it alone.

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    I don't even know how to argue with logic like hers, so nicely done

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    I don't even know how to argue with logic like hers, so nicely done

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    Well, I don't think anything will convince them but just pointing out that it's circular is enough for reasonable people.

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    Well, I don't think anything will convince them but just pointing out that it's circular is enough for reasonable people.

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    Aye, fair point. I'm getting increasingly annoyed with the people who refuse to debate in a civil manner

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    Aye, fair point. I'm getting increasingly annoyed with the people who refuse to debate in a civil manner

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    It is frustrating, alpng with making incorrect factual claims 30 seconds on google could have fixed...

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    (Original post by incipientT)
    It is frustrating, alpng with making incorrect factual claims 30 seconds on google could have fixed...

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    I may go to bed so I don't end up ranting at them

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    I may go to bed so I don't end up ranting at them

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    I've never seen you rant at anyone...

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    (Original post by incipientT)
    I've never seen you rant at anyone...

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    Aye, but they don't normally annoy me this much

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    Aye, but they don't normally annoy me this much

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    I think this could be called a gish gallop.

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    (Original post by incipientT)
    I think this could be called a gish gallop.

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    Didn't know there was an actual name for it, that's awesome

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    Didn't know there was an actual name for it, that's awesome

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    yeah, debating gay marriage opponents is quite an education in logical fallacies and underhanded debating tactics. I'll probably know the whole list by the time I'm finished.

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    yeah, debating gay marriage opponents is quite an education in logical fallacies and underhanded debating tactics. I'll probably know the whole list by the time I'm finished.

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    And apparently outright insults it seems. One of them turned out to be a troll, I can't decide of I'm relieved

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    And apparently outright insults it seems. One of them turned out to be a troll, I can't decide of I'm relieved

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    At least he's stopped posting.

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    At least he's stopped posting.

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    Good point. Although now I don't get to rant

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