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    (Original post by myblueheaven339)
    Sorry to hear that. Feel free to vent!


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    It seems like the honeymoon period is over after 1 week. I just don't know how to get through to the kids in English. All I want is for them to sit and listen for 5 minutes. They're 7 years old, so should be able to follow simple instructions. Today has gone from bad to worse. Firstly my nursery class were just too loud and wouldn't sit still. Then my primary 2 class were too chatty. I feel like I'm loosing the battle already. Really don't want a repeat of last year.
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    (Original post by sunfowers01)
    It seems like the honeymoon period is over after 1 week. I just don't know how to get through to the kids in English. All I want is for them to sit and listen for 5 minutes. They're 7 years old, so should be able to follow simple instructions. Today has gone from bad to worse. Firstly my nursery class were just too loud and wouldn't sit still. Then my primary 2 class were too chatty. I feel like I'm loosing the battle already. Really don't want a repeat of last year.
    I kind of know how you feel. I'm really struggling with a year 8 maths group, they're off the wall! My advice would be to remain consistent and always follow through if you say you're going to do something. Best of luck.


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    (Original post by sunfowers01)
    It seems like the honeymoon period is over after 1 week. I just don't know how to get through to the kids in English. All I want is for them to sit and listen for 5 minutes. They're 7 years old, so should be able to follow simple instructions. Today has gone from bad to worse. Firstly my nursery class were just too loud and wouldn't sit still. Then my primary 2 class were too chatty. I feel like I'm loosing the battle already. Really don't want a repeat of last year.
    That's probably just the excitement of a new teacher wearing off and they're starting to test the boundaries with you a bit more. I understand it's very hard (I find it very hard to stay confident when they aren't doing what I ask!) but you just have to keep ploughing through and being very consistent with the rules. Plus be very positive, praising good behaviour and they will soon pick up on it.

    When you say nursery are they the 7 year olds?

    If they just won't be quiet as a class for a few minutes, try stopping and doing something else. A friend of a friend shouts 'STOP! Everybody dance!' and then they all get up and do a crazy dance. It gets everyone's attention and wakes them up, plus it avoids the awkwardness of you letting them see that it's getting to you. It's kind of a 'They sense the weakness!' thing lol.

    I remember this one lesson with Key stage 1 where I literally couldn't get the class quiet, as soon as one child started listening another would start talking. I tried so many tactics, starting with positiveness and praising good role models... even had a timer on for time missed from break until they were quiet, it ran to more than ten minutes. It was so ridiculous, and incredibly frustrating because I only wanted to explain the lesson for 5 minutes max but instead they ended up waiting for much longer!!! And I felt so bad for the few who sat perfectly waiting. This was on placement and afterwards the teacher had a bit of a rant at the worst offenders, as she was disappointed with them. In hindsight I think I should have been a bit tougher with them, also I could have chosen those sitting well and explained a task to them and sent them off to do it. Or maybe brought up a fun activity and chosen those sitting well to come and do it (eg. game on the IWB... a more concrete reward than just praise). Also I could have followed through more with sanctions for each individual, even if that meant a lot of sanctions! It might have made them stop and realise I really needed them ready to learn then.

    I guess what I'm trying to say by sharing this anecdote is, it happens to us all! And it feels awful when it happens. But it doesn't mean you're a bad teacher or you'll never get it. It can even happen when you're usually great at it. You just have to keep going through, don't bear grudges - have a fresh start next lesson/after break to show you believe in them and trust they can make good choices.

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    I never feel good enough.

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    (Original post by sunfowers01)
    I never feel good enough.

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    Hey, I don't mean to be mean or discouraging but it seems you've been making posts like this on here for a long time now. Are you sure teaching, at least in your current position, is for you?
    It doesn't seem like you're receiving much guidance from colleagues or mentors and you've been talking about these same problems for over a year. It just seems like it's affecting your health and no job is worth that.
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    The class I'm in for placement now (Y1) uses a tamborine to gain attention when the class is getting rowdy. Works a treat!
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    We use a clapping sequence in our class, clap a little rhyme and the class has to clap along meaning that they have to remove anything in their hands,

    Or simply wait for their attention, yes it might take a by of time, but if you start talking over them, then they feel it's acceptable to talk over the teacher, and they'll walk all over you,

    Another one, we raise our hand, and wait until the class raises their hand with a finger on their lips to signify this is quiet and you must listen :-)
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    Quite a good day today

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    (Original post by sunfowers01)
    Quite a good day today

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    (Original post by sunfowers01)
    Quite a good day today

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    :awesome:
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    Who's yet to start placement? My uni has only placed a handful of people.

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    I start on the 7th :-) excited! Out of 160 of us 30 haven't been placed x


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    (Original post by Frankenstein)
    I start on the 7th :-) excited! Out of 160 of us 30 haven't been placed x


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    That's a good rate. We're way off that I think. But hopefully it'll iron out soon.

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    (Original post by Mr Advice)
    That's a good rate. We're way off that I think. But hopefully it'll iron out soon.

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    I start on Monday! Out of 18 of us, 2 weren't placed a few days ago. That's down to 1 unplaced now!

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    (Original post by Kidders)
    Now into my 3rd month of the secondary PGCE course and i can honestly say i have never looked forward to Xmas quite as much as i currently am! This has been the hardest few months i have ever experienced. Such a massive amount of work to be done all the time. Lesson plans still taking me hours and I'm never more than a day ahead of myself! Assignment due in 2 weeks and not even beyond the introduction. Getting home at 5pm every night due to the distance of my placement school and leaving at 7:20am every morning. Weekends written off and relationship with my partner suffering!


    Anyone else feel this way too?

    Also a little reminder to all those wanting to apply for next year; this is CERTAINLY not an option for you if you're doing it just to put off finding a job! HUGE step up from undergrad degree!! (i think the MA students are a little better prepared)

    Rant over.
    I did PGCE sec science. If you think PGCE is difficult, wait till you get a teaching job in an inner city sec school. Don't do it. Finish the PGCE but get out at the starting line. Premature ageing? First step : get a teaching job. It puts 'years' on you.
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    I got a job, til xmas for now, as a Nursery teacher!!! Hurrah!!!

    Exciting stuff

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    (Original post by Mr Advice)
    Who's yet to start placement? My uni has only placed a handful of people.

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    I start on the 8th, for two days a week. Still have absolutely no idea where I'm going- I'm not in uni yet though so hopefully I'll find out when the induction week starts on monday
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    I remember filling a thick folio with lesson plans. Heavy to carry. WE were told to be devotees of the LP by the University. At the end of the course, I asked my supervisor if he wanted to see them. His answer? WE don't need to see your lesson plans. That was for your purposes. If I could have smashed him over the head with the LP folder and got away with it at that time!!

    Having worked as a teacher, you only need a small handbook for a LP and, in time, it can all be done in your head. It becomes automatic. Like driving a car or riding a cycle.

    The structure of a LP is cyclical, e.g. LP1

    1. learning aims/goals/objectives
    2. teaching techniques and methods to deliver [1]
    3. Resources required to deliver [1]
    4. Assessment/evaluation/marking : have the learning objectives been achieved?
    Yes? to LP2
    No? return to and recapitulate LP1. etc, etc
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    So whaat exactly is a PGCE??? I've never heard of it :/
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    (Original post by Carrot_Cake)
    So whaat exactly is a PGCE??? I've never heard of it :/
    Post Graduate Certificate In Education. Initial teacher training qualification for graduates entering schoolteaching. When I got mine, it also meant automatic state registration as as teacher. I can still remember my DFES number. They say prisoners never forget their prison number.
 
 
 
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