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    (Original post by ThatMuslimGuy)
    Shaykh ’Uthaymeen, may Allaah have mercy on him, said:

    “When they see a person sinning, many brothers hate the sin and this is something correct, but they [also] hate the sinner, and then they deal with him harshly as someone who hates him would, like someone who wants to take revenge on him, and this is a huge mistake.You must cure the sinner as a gentle doctor who treats a wound in order for it to heal does, he doesn’t treat the wound in order for it to get worse, so he treats this person with gentleness and a desire for good for him and out of mercy for him … this is how the scholars who nurture are, they look at the creation with a view to reform, not to seek revenge and out of hatred—I hate the sin which this person does, but this person is a believer so he is my brother, even if he fornicated and stole, he is still my brother, the believers are but brothers.”

    {Majmoo’ Fataawaa wa Rasaa’il Fadilatish-Shaikh Muhammad ibn Saalih al-’Uthaimeen, vol. 27, pp. 311-312}
    This is only for certain sins right?

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    (Original post by ash92:))
    "I found myself in trouble, and so I made Du’aa consistently, all the while requesting relief and comfort. The response to my Du’aa seemed to be delayed, and so my soul became disturbed and worried. However, I rebuked it saying, “Woe unto you; look attentively at yourself, are you the one possessed or are you the possessor? Are you the one that is controlled or are you the controller? Are you not aware that this world is the abode of tests for you?"

    - Ibn Al-Jawzee (rahimahullah)
    This feeling can come too often. Especially when you really want your Dua to be answered at that particular point of time.
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    This feeling can come too often. Especially when you really want your Dua to be answered at that particular point of time.
    SubhaanAllah, indeed. Many a time, a delayed response to du'a becomes a means to testing our Sabr and developing it to the extent of contentment and absolute reliance upon He in Whose control are all affairs, Whose will subjugates all outcomes in the universe, Whose will manifests regardless of anyone wanting contrary circumstances.

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    “If you make intense supplication and the timing of the answer is delayed, do not despair of it. His reply to you is guaranteed; but in the way He chooses, not the way you choose, and at the moment He desires, not the moment you desire.”

    [Ibn `Ata’illah رحمه الله , Kitab al-Hikam]


    ‘Umar Ibn ‘Abdul-’Azeez رحمه الله
    said:

    “Allaah never blesses a slave with a favour and then takes it away form him and then recompenses him in its place with patience, except that which He recompensed him with [patience] was better than what He took away from him.”

    ['Iddatus Saabireen]
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    (Original post by Zamestaneh)
    A post I read on FB regarding the recent Playboy rubbish:

    "A Parade of Contradictions

    I find it interesting how Muslim feminists are up in arms about the Muslima being featured in the "gentlemen's" magazine. How can you not recognize the fruits of your labor?

    Muslim feminists have been telling the world that "Only extremists care about what a woman has on her head." Yet, can't that easily be extended to "Only extremists care about what a woman has on her body"?

    Muslim feminists have been telling the world that "What a woman decides to wear is her choice and no one has the right to control that." Yet, now we are told that an adult magazine where all the women have willfully chosen to appear in various forms of undress is objectionable.

    Muslim feminists have been telling the world that "Hijab has nothing to do with protecting women from male harassment and no matter how scantily a woman chooses to dress, the onus is entirely on men to behave respectfully." Yet, now we are told that there is something inherently problematic about women baring it all and that women, like Nour Tagouri, have a moral responsibility to not appear in such media.

    Shouldn't these Muslim feminists stop "shaming" Tagouri and instead focus their energy on telling men not to read the magazine? Why should Tagouri not do what she wants to do just because lecherous men read that magazine? The responsibility is SOLELY on men to abstain, lower their gaze, be respectful, right?Muslim feminists have been telling the world that "Women are empowered by being visible, by breaking into patriarchal institutions and changing the system from within, shedding backwards gender stereotypes and old-fashioned ideas about the place of a woman." Yet, now we are told that certain institutions and media are inherently "exploitative" and (too?) "patriarchal" and that Muslim women should bar themselves from entry even if they will break stereotypes, since their mere participation legitimizes those institutions.

    Ahh, the sweet, sweet irony!

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    By the way, Islamically we know that what goes around comes around. The activist Muslim feminists who have been outraged by Tagouri are part of the old guard second-wave feminism of the last century that sees things like pornography as exploitation and commodification. The intellectual and spiritual heirs of those feminists are modern day third-wave feminists, who like teenagers rebelling against their parents, have embraced sexualization, pornography, etc., as empowering and liberating. And just like the old guard Muslim feminists called the rest of us backwards, oppressive, insensitive, etc., those same aspersions are being cast against them today! Puts a smile on my face.Also note that this same exact debate happening on Tagouri also happened 8 or so years ago regarding Muslim participation in beauty pageants. History repeats itself and so does insanity."
    This is absolute rubbish. "Feminism" isn't one giant monolithic structure where everyone has the same views. You are welcome to give me examples of these thousands of Muslim feminists who are apparently up in arms about Nour's decision however.

    Do you know Malcolm X was also featured in Playboy? What's your opinion his decision? Are you going to call him the same names you are calling Nour?

    It's interesting how the decision of a young Muslim girl to partake in an interview with Playboy elicits such a strong in the community. Personally I disagree with her decision I'm calling you out when you're extremely silent when non-hijabis are harassed by the community or a woman de-hijabs.

    There are very clear double standards in the Muslim community. Just as entrenched in the younger generation as in the older one.
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    (Original post by ash92:))
    SubhaanAllah, indeed. Many a time, a delayed response to du'a becomes a means to testing our Sabr and developing it to the extent of contentment and absolute reliance upon He in Whose control are all affairs, Whose will subjugates all outcomes in the universe, Whose will manifests regardless of anyone wanting contrary circumstances.

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    “If you make intense supplication and the timing of the answer is delayed, do not despair of it. His reply to you is guaranteed; but in the way He chooses, not the way you choose, and at the moment He desires, not the moment you desire.”

    [Ibn `Ata’illah رحمه الله , Kitab al-Hikam]


    ‘Umar Ibn ‘Abdul-’Azeez رحمه الله
    said:

    “Allaah never blesses a slave with a favour and then takes it away form him and then recompenses him in its place with patience, except that which He recompensed him with [patience] was better than what He took away from him.”

    ['Iddatus Saabireen]
    Agreed!
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    As-salamu 'alaikum

    Does anyone have recommendations on books/sources which explain and provide commentary on ahadith?
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    (Original post by Inzamam99)
    This is absolute rubbish. "Feminism" isn't one giant monolithic structure where everyone has the same views. You are welcome to give me examples of these thousands of Muslim feminists who are apparently up in arms about Nour's decision however.

    Do you know Malcolm X was also featured in Playboy? What's your opinion his decision? Are you going to call him the same names you are calling Nour?

    It's interesting how the decision of a young Muslim girl to partake in an interview with Playboy elicits such a strong in the community. Personally I disagree with her decision I'm calling you out on your **** when you're extremely silent when non-hijabis are harassed by the community or a woman de-hijabs.

    There are very clear double standards in the Muslim community. Just as entrenched in the younger generation as in the older one.
    Lol, already seen a similar post in the comments. I was not alive when Malcom X did that, nor do I look up to him personally, nor do I support him doing that, nor did I know he did that until someone mentioned it in the comment I read - what you are talking about is like "you condemned the murder of XYZ a day ago but you never condemned the murder of ABC by the same person 30 years before you were born even if you might not have heard of that" - it's nonesensical and makes a false claim of selective outrage where there is none.

    What names have I called Nour?

    Perhaps you are unaware that I criticise those who bash those who choose not to wear hijab or other such things, such as men not covering their awrah but moaning about female modesty, but hey, don't let the truth stop you from having a moan; then again I don't blame you for making that assumption, since you appear to be unaware of what I actually believe and say in real life,and on other platforms.

    Your post appears to be am emotional reaction rather than a rational criticism.

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    (Original post by Zamestaneh)
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    (Original post by junayd1998)
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    Would be a shame if someone halal'd it. :diep:
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    (Original post by faith 101)
    As-salamu 'alaikum

    Wa'alaykumasalaam
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    (Original post by IdeasForLife)
    Would be a shame if someone halal'd it. :diep:
    Oh wow your gonna kill an innocent seal
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    (Original post by Zamestaneh)
    Lol, already seen a similar post in the comments. I was not alive when Malcom X did that, nor do I look up to him personally, nor do I support him doing that, nor did I know he did that until someone mentioned it in the comment I read - what you are talking about is like "you condemned the murder of XYZ a day ago but you never condemned the murder of ABC by the same person 30 years before you were born even if you might not have heard of that" - it's nonesensical and makes a false claim of selective outrage where there is none.

    What names have I called Nour?

    Perhaps you are unaware that I criticise those who bash those who choose not to wear hijab or other such things, such as men not covering their awrah but moaning about female modesty, but hey, don't let the truth stop you from having a moan; then again I don't blame you for making that assumption, since you appear to be unaware of what I actually believe and say in real life,and on other platforms.

    Your post appears to be am emotional reaction rather than a rational criticism.

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    Fair enough response but the vast majority of your initial criticism tends to gravitate around the response of Muslim feminists to Nour's decision- you seem to have slyly skipped the retort I gave to this.

    You say in your initial post that:

    "The activist Muslim feminists who have been outraged by Tagouri are part of the old guard second-wave feminism of the last century that sees things like pornography as exploitation and commodification. The intellectual and spiritual heirs of those feminists are modern day third-wave feminists, who like teenagers rebelling against their parents, have embraced sexualization, pornography, etc., as empowering and liberating."

    That is an extremely unfair allegation to hordes of Muslim women who identify as feminists and are doing excellent work for the betterment of women's rights around the globe. Yes third wave feminism movements often concentrate on wholly irrelevant and petty things and yes, Western feminists have a tendency to orientalise women of other cultures and view themselves as "saviours".

    Regardless, feminism in its essence, in its dictionary definition is merely the belief that men and women have equal rights. It is outrageous to put the millions of men and women fighting tooth to nail against rape, domestic violence, FGM, forced marriage and identifying as feminists in the same category as third wave Western feminists.

    Your attempt to attack the "ideology" of Feminism is cute. But you would be better off tackling the frankly staggering amount of serious problems facing a frankly pathetic and disunited Islamic community at the moment.
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    (Original post by Zamestaneh)
    As a Muslim feminist I find this picture highly offensive.

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    (Original post by junayd1998)
    Oh wow your gonna kill an innocent seal
    I'm a delicate creature, I'd do no such thing :hand:

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    As a Muslim feminist I find this picture highly offensive.

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