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    (Original post by AR_95)
    We don't need an RB we've got 4

    CB, 2 CM/DM's and a striker. Possibly another midfielder too with Cazorla over the hill soon
    Are any of them good enough though? Bellerin you've answered yourself, Chambers isn't a RB, not convinced Debuchy is good enough and he's 30 soon so you'll have to replace him in a year or two anyway. Who's the 4th?

    Also, had to post this awesome stat.

    No team has lost a European Cup/CL first leg knockout tie at home by 2 goals and progressed to the next round since Ajax in 1969.

    (Original post by Lyrical Prodigy)
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    It's just as bad at work lol. At my old job one of my bosses was an Arsenal fan, he got WUMed constantly. The best was when Chelsea beat them 6-0 and one of the new guys there, a Chelsea fan, kept updating him whenever Chelsea scored and rubbing it in. Poor guy nearly snapped :lol:

    It all gets shared around though. That's what I love about football, the banter.
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    (Original post by leinad2012)
    Inb4 Luiz scores a 40 yard worldie freekick to win a scrappy 1-0

    Luiz plays for the other team now
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    The loss is all down to Wenger tbh and that's because of the last window.
    Prior to this game were unbeaten in something like ten in twelve.

    Shocking that we're using Bellerin at RB ( who is gob****e)
    Debuchy's been unfortunate - that's just unlucky.

    Also, none of the goals were Bellerin's fault - if you want to blame anyone, blame Mertesacker. He's the one who failed to block Kondogbia's shot, and he failed to track the run of whatshisname, which put them 2-0 up.

    and shocking we didn't buy a CDM after crying out for one.
    I agree. But which world class CDM could Arsene have bought? I was pretty disappointed when Kondogbia went to Monaco because I watched a few Sevilla matches and he impressed, but everyone else is off-limits/overpriced.

    Also a ****ing joke we didn't buy a striker until Giroud received a 3 month injury. Our current weaknesses are all exposed by our lack of signings it's ****ing ridiculous.
    Rubbish.

    Giroud was unlucky tonight and got it all wrong, but we can play Welbeck, Alexis and Walcott up front if needs be.

    Also, just for a laugh, which striker did you have in mind? Cavani/Benzema, by any chance?

    It's not improving next year with Wenger either. We'll probably sign another CAM and 14 year old right back.
    Crystal ball? Nice.
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    Yeah I agree with Acorns tbh although I wouldn't have put it as harshly haha. Monaco were dreadful tonight, hardly looked interested in the game and probably would have settled with 0-0. We threw the game away.
    just watched arsenal concede 3 to monaco. and bassically throw away our best chance in years..

    Not in a polite mood
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    (Original post by fallen_acorns)
    loved it when wenger put on walcott, and our front line up was 3 wide players who all want to play centrally..
    Exactly.

    We have a bunch of fake wingers, who all will drift inside. We need wingers who will actually hug the touchline, not vacate that space any chance they get.


    Also, Gabriel in for Per on the weekend?


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    (Original post by AR_95)
    Luiz plays for the other team now
    Nah, he clearly meant Felipe Luis
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    (Original post by fallen_acorns)
    so their game plan relyed on us missing clear chances? - and thats your arguement for them playing well???

    lol. honestly, I am not suprised - not the first time youve tried to be the hyper respectfull nice-guy fan who always gives respect and credit to the other team..

    Reminds me of that kid in school who would loose a game to the bigger kids and then kiss their ass afterwards saying 'oh you guys played great, really, what a game.. never seen anything like that.. I really did not stand a chance did I? oh my god, you lot were good....... please like me.'

    Monaco looked good tonight because they were playing a team who were performing utterly terrible.

    That does not mean they played well though - just that their average play, was significantly better then arsenals awful play.

    for the small moments when we played anywhere close to our potential, we carved through them, and created chances that under any decent form would have finished.

    I am fully ok with admiting when we get destroyed by a team playing well.. but equally I am not prepared to praise a team when they beat us by playing averagly, and us playing terribly.. because that second scenario is far worse for the club, and sometihng we should acknowledge, and really try and improve upon.
    No, I'm saying their game plan relied on us pushing our players forward, and part of that would be us having attempts.

    Fine, if you want to try insulting me by calling me too nice, sure, I would rather be that than an arrogant prick who thinks Arsenal should win every game, every time. I just think Monaco played well, we didn't, so they deserved the win, and I don't think it is too radical for me to acknowledge that.

    How did they play averagely? Held the ball well, passed well, brilliant defending, strong tackling, high pressure on midfield and strikers. I will admit that if we were better we would have drawn, but for 95% of the game, they dominated us.
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    (Original post by Peggles_*)
    Exactly.

    We have a bunch of fake wingers, who all will drift inside. We need wingers who will actually hug the touchline, not vacate that space any chance they get.


    Also, Gabriel in for Per on the weekend?


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    choice between mert or a player who cant speak any english?

    Right now id take the 2nd any day of the week
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    (Original post by sr90)
    I'd argue you need to sign a similar number of players to us. Arsenal need a RB, CB, DM (possibly two) & ST.
    To be fair our star RB had been out all season bar like 5 games.

    Completely agree with the rest, need a new 3rd CB, get rid of Mert, sign a top CDM. Striker is tough, Welbeck should never have been signed, we'd be better off cashing in on Poldi Campbell and Welbeck and sign a top striker, but we already know that if we did they'd go and get injured after 3 games and end up with an "injury crisis" with no striker
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    (Original post by The Shed End)
    How could you tell?

    Don't worry though guys, it's not winning the Champions League that counts, it's qualifying right?
    Das right. :borat:

    #onlyArsenalffs
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    Luiz plays for the other team now
    I know
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    (Original post by sr90)
    Are any of them good enough though? Bellerin you've answered yourself, Chambers isn't a RB, not convinced Debuchy is good enough and he's 30 soon so you'll have to replace him in a year or two anyway. Who's the 4th?

    Also, had to post this awesome stat.

    No team has lost a European Cup/CL first leg knockout tie at home by 2 goals and progressed to the next round since Ajax in 1969.

    Jenkinson. Chambers and Bellerin still have time I guess and Chambers CAN play at RB even if we want him central in the future. Jenkinson decent enough to be our back up to Debuchy (who I think is a decent player to have, nothing special but more reliable then what we're using now)
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    Jenkinson. Chambers and Bellerin still have time I guess and Chambers CAN play at RB even if we want him central in the future. Jenkinson decent enough to be our back up to Debuchy (who I think is a decent player to have, nothing special but more reliable then what we're using now)
    Forgot that Jenkinson was only a loan, he's been decent enough whenever i've seen him this season.

    Playing young CB's at RB really doesn't work out well though, just look at us with Smalling/Jones over the past few years.
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    Guys seriously listen, as you can probably tell...I'm not even angry about the result tonight. In a nutshell that's what you deserve when you play **** and underestimate a team. We move on.

    Only ****ing thing pissing me right off and this has been on my mind for months is that mertasacker. Getting ****ing sick of him in all honesty. Should **** right off back to the bloody world cup.

    Gabriel in. FAST.
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    (Original post by Jgco2chem)
    We need to make a team of Alexis Sanchez's work ethic, I felt so sorry for him today...

    Walcott, Arteta, Flamini need to go!

    Giroud should be benched, We should go get whatever striker who can score 30 goals a season + a dynamic DM I think Kondogbia would be perfect to give coquelin competition.
    Wut? Walcott was one of our few decent players tonight, and Arteta has been solid whenever he hasn't been injured.

    Agree with Flamini though, he doesn't deserve to wear the shirt anymore.

    Giroud should be fined for his performance tonight, but which striker do you have in mind?
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    (Original post by Peggles_*)
    So for the 4th season in a row we need to score 3 away goals to progress. What a ****ing joke.


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    It's not impossible.

    Chelsea lost 1-3 to Napoli and cameback in home-leg to win 4-1.
    That was with a heavily ageing team with limited talent... mikel, bosingwa, kalou, malouda and a 33 year old past his prime Drogba.

    But you also need experience and when your captain is as bad as Mertesacker is then there's little hope.
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    Came on here to have a rant, don't know how all you guys are feeling but it can't be good
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    (Original post by angelfox)
    They showed some booing, was Giroud getting jeered in the same way Eboue was all those years ago? Looked like it on TV.
    When he was subbed off he did a little to be honest, but it was more in the direction of the general bad performance at the end of the game, plus alot of it was in Ozil/Wenger's direction and I found that despicable tbf as it was a collective shocking performance I mean wtf was our BFG to concede a goal like that? Anyways I hope we can pull it back.
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    (Original post by Arkasia)
    No, I'm saying their game plan relied on us pushing our players forward, and part of that would be us having attempts.

    Fine, if you want to try insulting me by calling me too nice, sure, I would rather be that than an arrogant prick who thinks Arsenal should win every game, every time. I just think Monaco played well, we didn't, so they deserved the win, and I don't think it is too radical for me to acknowledge that.

    How did they play averagely? Held the ball well, passed well, brilliant defending, strong tackling, high pressure on midfield and strikers. I will admit that if we were better we would have drawn, but for 95% of the game, they dominated us.
    Afraid it seems like it is :laugh:

    Monaco completely outclassed us.
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    (Original post by Arkasia)
    No, I'm saying their game plan relied on us pushing our players forward, and part of that would be us having attempts.

    Fine, if you want to try insulting me by calling me too nice, sure, I would rather be that than an arrogant prick who thinks Arsenal should win every game, every time. I just think Monaco played well, we didn't, so they deserved the win, and I don't think it is too radical for me to acknowledge that.

    How did they play averagely? Held the ball well, passed well, brilliant defending, strong tackling, high pressure on midfield and strikers. I will admit that if we were better we would have drawn, but for 95% of the game, they dominated us.
    95% of the game they dominated = less posession, less shots, less corners etc. etc.

    Only area they dominated us on was their finishing. that was the difference today - they were clinical, and finished their few chances. and we did not.

    I would accept the arguement about them sitting back and soaking up pressure, and then attacking on the counter - if they had done that well.. but they simply did not do that well at all...

    Look at the teams who do that well, and their performances, and you will see games where teams like chelsea absolutly nullify the opositions attack, and restrict them to pot shots and the odd chance..

    But today monaco did not do that, they did not defend well enough to keep our attackers out, and the scoreline is only in their favour due to our attackers terrible performances.

    If the main reason you win a game is because giroud misses two absolute sitters - then you have not deffended well, you have juts been lucky that the other team was ****e

    If the main reason you score goals is because mert ****s up, and you get a deflection, then you have not attacked well.. you have juts been lucky that the other team was ****e
 
 
 
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